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Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the best president of them all ? :-))))))))))))) (Original Post) syringis Jun 2018 OP
LOVE IT!! Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #1
Hi Dennis syringis Jun 2018 #2
In all other ways that PBO was a superior President, I also think he was one of our handsomest. Aristus Jun 2018 #3
Hi Aristus syringis Jun 2018 #4
Neither would I, but it was the Victorian Era; they did things differently then. Aristus Jun 2018 #5
I'm a history nut in general :-) syringis Jun 2018 #6
One of the things I enjoy most when studying history, especially from the era when photography began Aristus Jun 2018 #7
What I find interesting about them lunatica Jun 2018 #8
You raise a very interesting point. syringis Jun 2018 #9
Maybe in person? treestar Jun 2018 #11
awesome! treestar Jun 2018 #10
Excellent, and so true NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #12
Great post! K&R! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #13

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
3. In all other ways that PBO was a superior President, I also think he was one of our handsomest.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jun 2018

Right up there with John F. Kennedy.

Chester Arthur was often called handsome in his day, but by modern standards, come on!...


syringis

(5,101 posts)
4. Hi Aristus
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jun 2018

Yes, true.

He's nice to look at, and so is his wife. He and Michelle make a great couple.

I don't know much about Chester Arthur.

I only have a fairly general knowledge of US history. I can draw a rough general timeline, cite a few salient facts, a few characters, situate this or that president correctly, no doubt a little more than what is taught in our countries, but it does not go any further.

It's still very schematic.


I won't say Chester Arthur is handsome. This is only a personal appreciation, it being understood that beauty is a very relative notion.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
5. Neither would I, but it was the Victorian Era; they did things differently then.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jun 2018

I'm an American History nut. Presidential trivia is one of my favorite cocktail party discussion subjects.

Naturally, it irritates me when these right-wing pseudopatriots reveal that they actually know nothing about the history of the U.S.A. When they spew their ignorant idiocies and insist that: "I'm entitled ta m'bleefs!" I want to tell them to drag out a book on American History and read it for once.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
6. I'm a history nut in general :-)
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jun 2018

I'm passionate about history.

I think it is important, because we are the fruit of it. Just as our descendants will be the fruit of our actions. After all, to oversimplify, what we call history today is only yesterday's politics.

Interconnecting, understanding, often restoring historical truth, allows us to better understand our present world.

Unfortunately, history in our school curricula is often, almost always, a poor relative, a minor discipline.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
7. One of the things I enjoy most when studying history, especially from the era when photography began
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jun 2018

is to take a close look at the pictures of people from long ago. It can be very moving to look past the strange clothes, the funny hats, and the weird hairstyles and facial whiskers, and just look at the people, the human beings, who were just like us. They had no conception that they were living in a distinct historical period on which other people would look back as either better or worse than the one from which they are observing.

People with emotions, ideas, families, friends, loved ones, dreams. Things that can't always be conveyed in flat, motionless, black-and-white images.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. What I find interesting about them
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jun 2018

is that they pretty much developed their personalities by learning from their immediate family and peers. Someone growing up in a small town in the Midwest would have very different life views, beliefs, and behavior from someone growing up in New York City.

I’m probably not making my point very clear but maybe I can narrow it down to comparing today’s media savvy Millenials with their reality to people who grew up a 100 years ago, when virtually no gadgets, not even telephones were part of the mix.

I’ve often wondered about that, especially as the ability to communicate with modern equipment expands our lives and at the same time shrinks the world.

Just ruminations.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
9. You raise a very interesting point.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:40 AM - Edit history (1)

In reality, only great events and famous people are precisely dated and documented.

History is what the contemporaries of the time chose to make us known .

The choice is not necessarily conscious. We will relate important facts but not all the little things that make everyday life.

In this sense, even if the black and white photos of the very beginning do not always reflect all the emotions, are not very natural and for good reason, being photographed was an event, they posed for the photo, they give a better overview of the period compared to the time when they did not exist.

Moreover, history as a science, and thus following a rigorous methodology, is relatively recent.

One only has to read the historical archives, which were often written by the people of the Church. Practically the only ones besides the nobles, namely reading and writing.

And as usual, history is written by the winners. In other words, many of the so-called historical facts are fiction rather than reality. There is also the political dimension and the message we wanted to give

Louis XIV never said "L'Etat c'est moi" or Marie-Antoinette : "let them eat cake"...

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