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I think speculation about Melania's absence does belong on DU (Original Post) jpak Jun 2018 OP
Gossip and intrigue can be tools ck4829 Jun 2018 #1
The FLOTUS has not been seen in public for a long time jpak Jun 2018 #3
They also went without the youngest child, Barron. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #4
What is your suggestion? PJMcK Jun 2018 #5
Melania needs to appear in public, smiling and waving. jpak Jun 2018 #7
Or at least in a picture holding a copy of todays "Failing New York Times" Salviati Jun 2018 #22
Yes kimbutgar Jun 2018 #60
I think thats what shelly miscavige did Clarity2 Jun 2018 #44
She could use this opportunity thucythucy Jun 2018 #92
True and while I support the 'where is she' threads and the fun threads malaise Jun 2018 #6
Just the facts ma'am. jpak Jun 2018 #8
Perfect malaise Jun 2018 #9
To be honest, it's a misnomer (and a mistake I've made) that Sgt. Friday said that. In fact... George II Jun 2018 #50
I dont care bout no damn facts. He said it. I heard him.. many times.. It's true. pangaia Jun 2018 #55
I distinctly heard him him say it dozens of times (in my youth) too. The way I found out... George II Jun 2018 #56
Fake info, i tell ya... pangaia Jun 2018 #58
Not an exact quote from Joe Friday Progressive dog Jun 2018 #90
There are so many quotes like that whopis01 Jun 2018 #95
You'd think after being holed up in the WH DesertRat Jun 2018 #32
Would you consider it relaxing to spend the weekend with Donald Trump? mythology Jun 2018 #51
No, of course not. DesertRat Jun 2018 #82
Bot, it iz hard Scarsdale Jun 2018 #98
Very possible DesertRat Jun 2018 #119
I think Melanie Smith and her son "Barry" Champion Jack Jun 2018 #2
I think orangecrush Jun 2018 #13
I think shes hanging with Jonathan Oddi in his hospital room populistdriven Jun 2018 #28
interesting. orangecrush Jun 2018 #45
you know...... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #39
I think she was "having some work done." calimary Jun 2018 #64
No way that would be kept secret. Tongues wag too easily these days. 7962 Jun 2018 #115
Her next husband.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #127
OR, she was separated from her son by immigration when she applied for asylum? flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #114
... Major Nikon Jun 2018 #10
I just spit reduced-for-quick-sale box wine down my shirt jpak Jun 2018 #11
Me too the wine buzz that is. Ohiogal Jun 2018 #14
A tape of the Alien Abduction of Melania! JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #26
How About They Break Out the Body Double They Used Before? DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #12
Or Podpipo jpak Jun 2018 #15
Podpipo are Republicans. jalan48 Jun 2018 #16
Maybe Trump has a bunch of pods waiting for his kids at Camp David. jpak Jun 2018 #18
It looks like most of the Congressional Republicans have been captured already. jalan48 Jun 2018 #19
Yes - Mitch Mcconnell was seen entering Trump Tower - a Podpipo now jpak Jun 2018 #21
Yep, he's definitely got that blank, Podpipo stare. jalan48 Jun 2018 #33
Doesn't anyone remember Trumpy from the 1983 Z-movie "Pod People" FSogol Jun 2018 #38
Yup MFM008 Jun 2018 #87
Oooh I like that. Marie Marie Jun 2018 #63
So are purpopipo. shraby Jun 2018 #78
That would explain why no one has emotions. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #42
That movie scared the crap outta me when I was a kid. dameatball Jun 2018 #89
of course it's not normal handmade34 Jun 2018 #17
I agree. I think she's either with the Obamas or up in Kenebunkport in one of the guest rooms. mulsh Jun 2018 #20
I agree, does not matter at all and makes us look nutty! nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #23
No, it does NOT make us look nutty. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #31
It does NOT matter at all and who cares? Like Vince Foster BS. nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #35
Wherever she is and whatever she is doing, it's on the taxpayers' dime. NYC Liberal Jun 2018 #85
There are 1000s of gov people on your dime, and none of your business about their personal life. nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #88
When they're getting tens of millions of dollars worth of NYC Liberal Jun 2018 #112
LOL, not at all. nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #122
If she was in NYC, someone would say so. And security would be obvious. nt 7962 Jun 2018 #116
It matters. And I care. More_Cowbell Jun 2018 #132
1000s of people are taxpayer supported, their private life is not your business. nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #133
Luckily, you're not the arbiter of what's my business More_Cowbell Jun 2018 #134
Good idea, waste time on something that matters NOT AT ALL! nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #136
Like they sit around and worry about that... blue cat Jun 2018 #36
Perhaps, However When the First Lady Goes MIA for Nearly a Month, Something is Wrong dlk Jun 2018 #24
And why doesn't her husband appear to be concerned about his wife? kimbutgar Jun 2018 #25
Maybe she wanted privacy! Which would be 100% normal! nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #37
too bad wendyb Jun 2018 #41
LOL, I agree if Michelle went missing the GOPers would make up all sort of shit! Hmmmm. Get it now? USALiberal Jun 2018 #43
Except that Michelle wouldn't have gone missing. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. She's done being humiliated. AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #93
You have NO IDEA why she is not appearing in public. And none of our business. nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #107
Speak for yourself, 'cause I wouldn't want you looking nutty. AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2018 #121
I think it's too late for that :-) More_Cowbell Jun 2018 #135
There is nothing normal about him and i don't think he would be concerned JI7 Jun 2018 #52
"thats what normal spouses do". You answered your own question!!! nt 7962 Jun 2018 #117
Agree.. every bizarro thing about this shit show needs mountain grammy Jun 2018 #27
I think that we should make it into a guessing game blue cat Jun 2018 #29
If Aliens.... Cryptoad Jun 2018 #30
We should shout it from the tree tops!!! blue cat Jun 2018 #34
It's not normal and there isn't any reason it shouldn't be discussed here Autumn Jun 2018 #40
Trival Distraction & Major Waste of Time Duppers Jun 2018 #46
Very concise, very on point. Recommended. eom guillaumeb Jun 2018 #47
Maybe they sent her back to Real Doll dot com for a tuneup? NurseJackie Jun 2018 #48
You can read all about it SCantiGOP Jun 2018 #49
On a discussion blog, I will discuss anything I want.... pbmus Jun 2018 #53
+1 MontanaMama Jun 2018 #54
So will silly posts! nt USALiberal Jun 2018 #57
There's nothing wrong with speculation. NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #59
Informed speculation is a part of our lives...sometimes we listen to it on msnbc... pbmus Jun 2018 #62
"Informed speculation" ... NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #67
My speculation was from my own kidney surgery done in 1972.... pbmus Jun 2018 #68
It isn't baseless. Trump has a history of being abusive. kcr Jun 2018 #69
Having been a court reporter ... NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #71
Pussy grabber was caught on tape, Court Reporter. kcr Jun 2018 #72
Its easy to be accused of being a "water carrier" around here. Even with 23000+ posts!! 7962 Jun 2018 #120
I do not believe that JPR is a RW site... OnyxSharpie Jun 2018 #79
By all means ... NanceGreggs Jun 2018 #81
Well, I don't know what it was like there in 2016 OnyxSharpie Jun 2018 #86
I second your comment. orangecrush Jun 2018 #123
JPR is a RW/ Russian site ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #108
She hit it up with Bat Boy. snort Jun 2018 #61
R#48 & K UTUSN Jun 2018 #65
No speculation here - just some hope that Marie Marie Jun 2018 #66
Hearty rec from me. The oh-so-reasonable scolds here are getting too used to him. kcr Jun 2018 #70
Four weeks ago Monday, greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #73
Yes - there was no substantive information given at the roll-out, and nothing since. Totally Tunsie Jun 2018 #104
Always being told if you see something odd - say something lunasun Jun 2018 #74
Trevor Noah on the Missing Melania Cha Jun 2018 #75
Odd in that there's nothing coming from the leakiest WH ....EVER. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #76
Melania Doesn't want to be First Lady Beatlelvr Jun 2018 #77
Does baby have the signature Trump Puffer Fish mouth? MoonRiver Jun 2018 #91
Welcome to DU underpants Jun 2018 #103
They have had many different causes, not just children's issues, though those are very important. uppityperson Jun 2018 #106
It's supposed to be a secret. Don't tell anyone but. Lint Head Jun 2018 #80
She was his handler Bluesaph Jun 2018 #83
She was also the leaker Bluesaph Jun 2018 #84
If Michelle had disappeared for months would it have been discussed on DU? workinclasszero Jun 2018 #94
Absolutely. If Michelle had pulled this, Republicans would call for a sustained public inquiry. VOX Jun 2018 #131
When the First Lady Goes MIA for Nearly a Month, It is a Legitimate Cause for Concern dlk Jun 2018 #96
I don't think people are going to buy an "Appalachian trail walk" story with her underpants Jun 2018 #102
Esp not with her Houston Hurrican footwear. salin Jun 2018 #110
I think it does Demovictory9 Jun 2018 #97
I agree heaven05 Jun 2018 #99
Let's not overlook her recent medical procedure rocktivity Jun 2018 #100
I Do Too Me. Jun 2018 #101
Lets start the rumor she's with David Miscavage's wife. bitterross Jun 2018 #105
The New York Daily news did a snark piece that refered to Miscavage salin Jun 2018 #111
Well, she just got out of the hospital. I would guess she has to take it easy for a while. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #109
im waiting for Wheres Melania memes to show up... samnsara Jun 2018 #113
The speculation is what is out of control and I agree with MineralMan on that nini Jun 2018 #118
I worry for Melania jimlup Jun 2018 #124
Kick ck4829 Jun 2018 #125
When she returned to the white house greymattermom Jun 2018 #126
Well how long does it take to recover from a black eye or a split lip? ginnyinWI Jun 2018 #128
From The Guardian - Missing Melania Trump barely makes news - things are getting weirder malaise Jun 2018 #129
America lost its mind over the Runaway Bride in the Bush administration jpak Jun 2018 #130
Proof of life! More_Cowbell Jun 2018 #137
CNBC reporter Eamon Javers says he saw her with aides at WH Wednesday. 7962 Jun 2018 #138

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
1. Gossip and intrigue can be tools
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jun 2018

A better tool for the people than the electoral clown college no doubt.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
3. The FLOTUS has not been seen in public for a long time
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jun 2018

The Trump "family" went to Camp David this weekend without the FLOTUS.

Something is terribly wrong here.

THIS IS NOT NORMAL

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
22. Or at least in a picture holding a copy of todays "Failing New York Times"
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jun 2018

We demand proof of life!

thucythucy

(8,067 posts)
92. She could use this opportunity
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jun 2018

to give that press conference she promised during the campaign. You know, the one where she said she would answer any and all questions about whether or not she broke the law by working here without a green card.

Funny how that all slipped entirely out of the national discussion.

Just another example of IOKIYAR.

malaise

(269,026 posts)
6. True and while I support the 'where is she' threads and the fun threads
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jun 2018

I don't think it's a good idea to post X. Y & Z as if they were factual.
Speculation, satire or just plain fun are different than folks suggesting that they know what's happened to her.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. To be honest, it's a misnomer (and a mistake I've made) that Sgt. Friday said that. In fact...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jun 2018

...he never said it!

I went decades thinking that and just found out last year that he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Friday

George II

(67,782 posts)
56. I distinctly heard him him say it dozens of times (in my youth) too. The way I found out...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
Jun 2018

...was in a case like this. Instead of a picture, I wanted to post a short video or sound bite of him saying it, couldn't find it. That's when I decided to look it up.

I was devastated!

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
90. Not an exact quote from Joe Friday
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jun 2018

but

Jack Webb’s ‘Joe Friday’ character typically used the phrase “All we want are the facts, ma’am” (and sometimes “All we know are the facts ma’am”) when questioning women in the course of police investigations. Freberg’s “Little Blue Riding Hood” spoof changed the line slightly, and it was Freberg’s alteration — rather than anything Joe Friday said — that would enter the roll of immortal catch phrases:
pretty close.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
95. There are so many quotes like that
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jun 2018

“Beam me up, Scotty”

“Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the fairsest of them all?”

“Play it again, Sam”

“We’re gonna need a bigger boat”

“If you build it, they will come”

“Me Tarzan, you Jane”


And that’s just a handful of them.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
32. You'd think after being holed up in the WH
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:56 PM
Jun 2018

She and Barron would enjoy a relaxing weekend in the woods at Camp David.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
82. No, of course not.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 02:14 AM
Jun 2018

But I assume that there's plenty of wooded acreage there to be away from him and from media.

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
2. I think Melanie Smith and her son "Barry"
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jun 2018

deserve some privacy while they adjust to life in witness protection.

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
28. I think shes hanging with Jonathan Oddi in his hospital room
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jun 2018

The gunman shot at Trump hotel was a stripper and porn actor who loved Melania Trump

Updated May 21, 2018 05:28 PM

Less than a year ago, South Africa native Jonathan Oddi proudly posed behind a backdrop of an American flag, touting his new citizenship. "God bless the USA finally an American!" he wrote on Instagram.

On Friday morning, he unfurled the American flag inside the South Florida hotel owned by the nation's president, then got into a firefight and chase with police while ranting about Donald Trump, Barack Obama — and bizarrely, rap mogul P. Diddy, according to law enforcement.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/doral/article211409674.html



dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. you know......
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jun 2018


That does address a lot of questions about location of her security detail, who one thinks has to be with her.

or...
divorce would explain seclusion.
In which case I hope Avenatti has a twin who is a lawyer......
....

calimary

(81,304 posts)
64. I think she was "having some work done."
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

Plastic surgery patients often go “on vacation” to let the bruises, swelling, and the stretching heal. She just turned 48 (near the end of April) and is probably VERY conscious of what the passing of years does to the face - and other features. And he probably insists that she maintain herself as top-drawer arm candy.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
115. No way that would be kept secret. Tongues wag too easily these days.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018

I dont see why its a big deal until she misses something important.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
127. Her next husband....
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jun 2018

is probably on her mind. There's not a doubt in my mind that they'll split with each other immediately after Trump isn't president anymore, for whatever reason. She seems like the type that would not wait for someone serving a prison term or twelve.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
114. OR, she was separated from her son by immigration when she applied for asylum?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jun 2018

..and then they just lost him.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
42. That would explain why no one has emotions.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jun 2018


Explains that very well indeed. Esp. Kushner and Melanie...nary a smile.
Hmmmmmmmmm...

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
17. of course it's not normal
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:31 PM
Jun 2018

but none of this (DT administration) is normal and there are more important people and things to worry about at this time... I truly hope she has taken her son and moved back home... she was just going to make a fool of herself by continuing her "BeBest" campaign

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
20. I agree. I think she's either with the Obamas or up in Kenebunkport in one of the guest rooms.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:41 PM
Jun 2018

One look at her pictures at the memorial service shows how relaxed and happy she is around regular, nice people.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
31. No, it does NOT make us look nutty.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:55 PM
Jun 2018

It makes us look like normal people who notice someone has been missing for a long time. Wait, make that 2 people, because as far as I know Barron has not been seen either.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
85. Wherever she is and whatever she is doing, it's on the taxpayers' dime.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 02:40 AM
Jun 2018

So I personally do care. Especially if she is here in New York and costing me even more with the added NYPD detail.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
132. It matters. And I care.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jun 2018

I'm interested to know if we taxpayers are again supporting separate households for no reason that's been shared with us. I'm interested in what could have happened to Melania that "never met an excuse he wouldn't use" Trump isn't trying to get sympathy for. I worry when a person who's physically close to a known domestic abuser suddenly disappears.

And luckily, DU is a place where we can talk about what interests us.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
134. Luckily, you're not the arbiter of what's my business
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jun 2018

So I'll continue to care about and post whatever I want to about Melania's absence.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
36. Like they sit around and worry about that...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jun 2018

The Dems don’t need to bring a covered dish to this gun fight!
(Stolen from Bill Maher).

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
25. And why doesn't her husband appear to be concerned about his wife?
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:47 PM
Jun 2018

You’d think he would mention if she’s getting better and show his worry about her health. That’s what normal spouses do.

wendyb

(60 posts)
41. too bad
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:11 PM
Jun 2018

She doesn't have that luxury. Hate to whataboutism..but if Michelle Obama had disappeared for a month..imagine the fallout. I don't feel at all sorry for her. She made a deal with the devil. And I really, really mean the devil.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
43. LOL, I agree if Michelle went missing the GOPers would make up all sort of shit! Hmmmm. Get it now?
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jun 2018

JI7

(89,251 posts)
52. There is nothing normal about him and i don't think he would be concerned
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jun 2018

Even if it really was a serious health matter.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
27. Agree.. every bizarro thing about this shit show needs
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:47 PM
Jun 2018

to be talked about endlessly or it's not really happening. Fascism right before our eyes, the first lady drops out of sight, and we're supposed to be polite and ignore it all...I don't think so.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
29. I think that we should make it into a guessing game
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jun 2018

Because we are going to find out eventually, in time.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
34. We should shout it from the tree tops!!!
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:58 PM
Jun 2018

What, are we going to play all nice again, as if they would not be hounding our First Lady? Screw that...I’m hoping for all kinds of memes and jokes to rub it in the face that this is not normal, not for one minute.

Autumn

(45,102 posts)
40. It's not normal and there isn't any reason it shouldn't be discussed here
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:11 PM
Jun 2018

on DU' a message board created to discuss issues.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
53. On a discussion blog, I will discuss anything I want....
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:06 PM
Jun 2018

Without breaking blog rules....

And any of the self righteous on this blog will be fully ignored....

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
59. There's nothing wrong with speculation.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jun 2018

What IS wrong – and should be deemed inappropriate for DU – is profferring speculation that has absolutely no basis in fact and discussing it as though it were.

There is no evidence that Trump physically abused Melania, and that she is MIA because she’s waiting for the bruises to heal.

Some may find speculation as to whether Melania is recovering from cosmetic surgery amusing, but it still amounts to the same thing: it doesn’t matter. A possible facelift or nip-and-tuck has no impact on the citizenry whatsoever, nor does it affect her husband’s political policies – which are a much greater threat to our nation than Melania’s physical appearance.

Too many posts on this topic have ventured into “some people are saying” territory – an area that FOX-News created, and literally lives in on a daily basis.

Are there things going on that we don’t know about? Absolutely. Are we curious as to what those behind-the-scenes things are? You’re damned real we are. And speculating what those things are is a natural reaction, and we’ve a right to do so.

That being said, when speculation and curiosity devolve into baseless comments that Melania was physically beaten, that she’s been removed by the SS who witnessed her physical abuse and are covering-up for the “pResident”, that she’s being held hostage by the powers-that-be who are determined to silence her, et cetera, it becomes the same type of “speculation” that certain people engaged in (like those on JPR and other RW sites) about how Hillary was absent from a number of 2016 campaign events because she was suffering from dementia, seizures, and symptoms of the dozen or so fatal ailments she was allegedly suffering from.

I really don’t see much difference between “HRC is dying of ____” (insert disease here) and “Melania is missing because ____” (insert wild, off-the-wall theory here).

There is much to speculate on right now, Melania’s absence being one of them, and the gathering of Trump family members to Camp David this weekend being another. But when DU becomes a platform for promulgating inane conspiracy theories, we become everything we have collectively and vehemently abhorred.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
62. Informed speculation is a part of our lives...sometimes we listen to it on msnbc...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jun 2018

This morning, first lady Melania Trump underwent an embolization procedure to treat a benign kidney condition. The procedure was successful, and there were no complications," the first lady's communications director, Stephanie Grisham, said in a statement

Q: What is involved in an embolization?

A: That is a general term for a procedure that blocks blood flow to a problem area of the body. In the case of a kidney abnormality, doctors would typically thread a thin tube through a blood vessel, often starting in the groin, and inject a substance to cut off blood flow to the benign tumor or malformation. The idea is to stop or prevent bleeding or other symptoms and to shrink the abnormality or at least stop it from growing.

Q: How are such kidney abnormalities found?

A: Most are found during imaging tests – MRIs, CT scans or X-rays – done for other reasons. But some people have symptoms, such as pain in the flank or blood in the urine, when a benign tumor becomes quite large, leading their doctors to order testing. Blood vessel abnormalities in the kidneys also can cause high blood pressure.

Q: Is it unusual to stay in the hospital for several days after such procedure?

A: Cases differ. Most embolization procedures do not require several days of hospitalization, and many people go home the same day. But in some cases, patients do stay for a night or longer to be observed for problems that can develop such as nausea, vomiting and pain, especially if a fairly large mass was treated. Follow-up imaging also may be done.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
67. "Informed speculation" ...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jun 2018

... is one thing. "Uninformed speculation" pulled out of one's ass is another.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
68. My speculation was from my own kidney surgery done in 1972....
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Had migraines, blood in urine, and big fatigue...

My wife is a nurse and has had many kidney patients...we had an informed discussion on Melanie’s issues ....

I do not spread bs on this blog....like some others....

Also, I am not a court reporter, an honorable however hectic career.....I am just a Doctor...also a hectic career choice....

kcr

(15,317 posts)
69. It isn't baseless. Trump has a history of being abusive.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:16 PM
Jun 2018

He ripped chunks out of Ivanas hair. She claimed in a court of law that he raped her. His current wife in a highly public role hasn't been seen for 23 days now. This isn't baseless speculation. This is a red flag. Keep in mind this is a man who has lied about and covered up all kinds of nefarious behavior. I don't get the finger-wagging and scolding quite frankly. I'm used to the water carrying for him from the right. I'm kind of surprised to see where it's coming from on this one.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
71. Having been a court reporter ...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jun 2018

... for over thirty years, I was on many, MANY divorce cases - and allegations leveled by one spouse against the other are par for the course, believable or otherwise.

Ivana later retracted her accusations, as many spouses (male and female alike) do after-the-fact.

If you think that requiring actual facts, rather than wild speculation, is a sign of "carrying water", you might want to reconsider your position.

It's the right-wingers who accept everything without facts that we're fighting against. Becoming them and following the example is not who we are.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
72. Pussy grabber was caught on tape, Court Reporter.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:40 PM
Jun 2018

But otherwise, I'm sure that the man who hired a lawyer like Cohen and colluded with Russia is a big ol' Teddy bear! I'm sure you're right.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
120. Its easy to be accused of being a "water carrier" around here. Even with 23000+ posts!!
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jun 2018

Even the appearance of objectivity is seen by some as "caving" or some other such nonsense.
My stalker will likely be along shortly to prove my point

Your point is correct; the other side jumps on speculation like a hyena on a baby. No concern for facts.

 

OnyxSharpie

(33 posts)
79. I do not believe that JPR is a RW site...
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jun 2018

I’ve heard a lot about JPR here, and I have checked it out myself. They seem to have no love for Trump there, from what I can tell. Also I notice that Omaha Steve, who has a labor group here on DU named after him, also has a room there called “The Wizard Room.” Seems strange that he would have a place on both this forum and that one if it was RW. I was just thinking about signing up as a member, actually.


NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
81. By all means ...
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:58 AM
Jun 2018

... sign up!!! You sound like just the kind of person they look for.

You might want to check out their discussion threads during the 2016 campaigns. You'll be hard-pressed to find a now-confirmed-to-be Russian-initiated lie that wasn't accepted as the gospel truth.

When you embrace and disseminate RW talking points, you're a RW site. The only people who have a problem understanding that concept are the people who post there.


 

OnyxSharpie

(33 posts)
86. Well, I don't know what it was like there in 2016
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 02:52 AM
Jun 2018

But then again, I don’t know what this site looked like either. I’m sure they were both pretty crazy though. But I’m just basing my opinion on what I see now - both DU and JPR appear to be pretty much left-of-center.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
66. No speculation here - just some hope that
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jun 2018

she finally decided that self-respect was more important than money and she left his saggy ass. Anything that adds to his woes and humiliation is fine by me.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
70. Hearty rec from me. The oh-so-reasonable scolds here are getting too used to him.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jun 2018

Our media is no help. Never forget who this Russia colluding, hair chunks ripping, porn star cheating with, pussy grabbing rapist is. FLOTUS who is married to this piece of shit hasn't been seen for almost a month. Not questioning this as if it's normal is crazy pills.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
73. Four weeks ago Monday,
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:05 AM
Jun 2018

they announced Melodrama's "Be Best" with great hoopla. Since then, we've heard nothing about it. No plans have been announced, no staff named to carry out the initiative.

At the very least, she could tweet out something about how she's working on this. Or someone could. Instead, the whole thing seems to have died a premature death. I realize it was her second announcement of a similar initiative, but shut up about it or actually do something.

I find it very strange.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
104. Yes - there was no substantive information given at the roll-out, and nothing since.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:13 PM
Jun 2018

That entire campaign just seemed to be hastily thrown together as nothing more than a cause for Melania to appear to be managing something...anything. "Busy work" - nothing more. What the hell is "Be Best" anyway?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
74. Always being told if you see something odd - say something
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:09 AM
Jun 2018

Something is odd about her 1 day surgery and no info given about flotus except she is in the WH window looking at reporters and tweeting she is working overtime but can't be seen in public now

Beatlelvr

(619 posts)
77. Melania Doesn't want to be First Lady
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:01 AM
Jun 2018

Hi. First time here. I think when she married Donny she thought she didn't have to work anymore. First Ladies work! It's a hard job, time consuming, lots of planning and juggling of schedules. She's just not up to it. Maybe she just wants to retreat and stay out of the public eye.

And by the way, have you noticed the only subject First Ladies are allowed to champion are "children's issues"?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
91. Does baby have the signature Trump Puffer Fish mouth?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:59 AM
Jun 2018

If not, we'll know s/he is not Chumpy's.

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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
106. They have had many different causes, not just children's issues, though those are very important.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

Wiki :
Over the course of the 20th century, it became increasingly common for first ladies to select specific causes to promote, usually ones that are not politically divisive. It is common for the First Lady to hire a staff to support these activities. Lady Bird Johnson pioneered environmental protection and beautification.[11] Pat Nixon encouraged volunteerism and traveled extensively abroad; Betty Ford supported women's rights; Rosalynn Carter aided those with mental disabilities; Nancy Reagan founded the Just Say No drug awareness campaign; Barbara Bush promoted literacy; Hillary Clinton sought to reform the healthcare system in the U.S.; Laura Bush supported women's rights groups, and encouraged childhood literacy.[6] Michelle Obama became identified with supporting military families and tackling childhood obesity;[12] and Melania Trump has stated that she wants to use her position to help children, including prevention of cyberbullying and supporting children whose lives are affected by drugs.[13]


https://www.thestreet.com/slideshow/14482238/1/first-ladies-of-the-united-states-and-their-causes.html

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
80. It's supposed to be a secret. Don't tell anyone but.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:43 AM
Jun 2018

Alex Jone's even crazier evil twin said that she was pregnant with Stephen Miller's baby. And that she didn't show because Stephen Miller is such a tiny little asshole weasel.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
94. If Michelle had disappeared for months would it have been discussed on DU?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jun 2018

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Of course, endlessly.

So why should the present First Lady get a pass?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
131. Absolutely. If Michelle had pulled this, Republicans would call for a sustained public inquiry.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jun 2018

They'd be screaming, "The American people deserve to know!"

First Ladies, as non-elected public figures, are not obligated to disclose their whereabouts. However, they simply do not vanish for extended periods of time without being noticed. They have direct access to the president in private. If something's going on with Melania that impacts 45's emotional instability (what doesn't?), it portends some very negative consequences.

dlk

(11,567 posts)
96. When the First Lady Goes MIA for Nearly a Month, It is a Legitimate Cause for Concern
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jun 2018

Especially when she is married to a powerful man with a long history of rage attacks.

salin

(48,955 posts)
110. Esp not with her Houston Hurrican footwear.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe she's testing her self-control by lava (instead of hot coals) walking... it might be easier than being married to Trump.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
99. I agree
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jun 2018

what is the deal donny boy? Did you hit her in the kidneys? Did you bruise her up while beating her? Did she have a psychotic or emotional incident(break) because of your stupidity and ignorance getting her into a HUGE MESS SHE NEVER WANTED? it belongs here just because it is about the 1st family

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
100. Let's not overlook her recent medical procedure
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jun 2018

You don't just hop out bed after a kidney procedure -- we don't know exactly how serious it was. But if she's not well enough to travel, she's certainly not well enough to be in full charge of a 12-year-old.


rocktivity

Me.

(35,454 posts)
101. I Do Too
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jun 2018

Because I believe that as far as she's concerned we are being fed another big fat lie and that needs to be exposed. In a week it will be a month.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
105. Lets start the rumor she's with David Miscavage's wife.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jun 2018

In case you don't know who that is, Miscavage is the head of the Church of Scientology. His wife has been out of the public for years.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/where-is-shelly-miscavige-147734

Their internet search bots are probably crawling this site and will be doing a hit on me just for posting this.

salin

(48,955 posts)
111. The New York Daily news did a snark piece that refered to Miscavage
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jun 2018

and his 11 yr missing wife in light of the missing Melania.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
109. Well, she just got out of the hospital. I would guess she has to take it easy for a while.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jun 2018

Whatever she had done...maybe surgery? That would require some weeks of bedrest to heal, stitches and all. But it's clear they are keeping what's wrong with her under wraps.

Cancer? Hysterectomy? They said kidneys, but since when don't they lie?

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
113. im waiting for Wheres Melania memes to show up...
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jun 2018

...peering from the window seat of a plane....among a crowd on the Eiffel tower...on the back of a Harley with PBO....

nini

(16,672 posts)
118. The speculation is what is out of control and I agree with MineralMan on that
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jun 2018

Wondering is one thing but no need to fuel wild conspiracy theories either.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
124. I worry for Melania
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jun 2018

she is very much a victim of the Trump shit storm same as we all are.

I hope she is alright

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
126. When she returned to the white house
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jun 2018

was she seen exiting a vehicle? Walking on her own? Was she actually seen returning to the white house at all?

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
128. Well how long does it take to recover from a black eye or a split lip?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jun 2018

He has a history of violence toward wives.

malaise

(269,026 posts)
129. From The Guardian - Missing Melania Trump barely makes news - things are getting weirder
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jun 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/jun/02/missing-melania-trump-barely-makes-news-things-are-getting-weirder
<snip>
We’re so used to bizarre behavior from the Trump administration that a missing first lady barely registers as strange

I am not one for conspiracy theories, and so I don’t find the guesses flying around the lefty internet about Melania Trump’s whereabouts particularly convincing. But I am very interested in double standards – and I find it hard to believe that if Michelle Obama disappeared from the public eye for nearly a month that there wouldn’t be some sort of sustained public inquiry.

It’s fun to imagine that Melania – who has been memed endlessly because of her apparent distaste for the president – has finally flown the coop and left her notoriously misogynist husband. And who knows, maybe she has.

But the reasons behind her lack of public appearances are less interesting to me than the fact that we’re so used to bizarre and out-of-bounds behavior from this administration that something like a missing first lady barely makes the grade for news coverage.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
137. Proof of life!
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jun 2018

The WH is saying she'll appear with Gold Star families tomorrow. At an event that's closed to the press.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
138. CNBC reporter Eamon Javers says he saw her with aides at WH Wednesday.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jun 2018

Hes been with the network a long time & its not some whack network, so I see no reason to doubt him

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