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jimlup

(7,968 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 04:56 AM Jun 2018

Honest Question: Is Trump Autistic and on the spectrum?

I've been wondering about this. Seems to me there are some serious personality disorders. It seems he doesn't have an embarrassment quotient and that he is unable to process humor or empathy. I'm not asking this from a political perspective. I'm honestly wondering from a psychological position.

I'm particularly interested in the response of anyone who has professional knowledge about this. I looked this up and several of the points on the list fit the Orange Idiot:

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-asd/index.shtml


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Trump is on the spectrum of autism
1 (4%)
Trump is just an asshole
21 (91%)
Trump is both on the spectrum and an asshole
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Honest Question: Is Trump Autistic and on the spectrum? (Original Post) jimlup Jun 2018 OP
It would be an insult to autism. No, I believe he was badly damaged as a child OnDoutside Jun 2018 #1
Autism is not a personality disorder. yardwork Jun 2018 #2
UnRec. This is disrespectful of all people with an autism disorder. nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2018 #3
Not trying to disrespect anyone with Autism jimlup Jun 2018 #23
Aspergers perhaps? When I see trump flailing his arms I'm always reminded of my lamp_shade Jun 2018 #4
I have a son with Aspergers. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #31
A lifetime of sniffing hairspray has destroyed what braincells he had, perhaps? trusty elf Jun 2018 #5
As a Grandparent of a Autistic child Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #6
No. Look up malignant narcissism - Trump matches every point for that Arazi Jun 2018 #7
Malignant Narcissm. True Blue American Jun 2018 #9
Right. Where 5 of 9 was enough to qualify for narcissim disorder, empedocles Jun 2018 #12
Trump is just a narcisstic True Blue American Jun 2018 #8
He's a crook, duforsure Jun 2018 #10
No. He has zero empathy because he has narcissistic personality disorder -- not autism. pnwmom Jun 2018 #11
I don't see any similarities to the kids I've worked with. I do see GreenPartyVoter Jun 2018 #13
borderline for sure samnsara Jun 2018 #15
I knew a borderline/narcisst. Talk about playing head games!! GreenPartyVoter Jun 2018 #26
Are you from New England? CozyMystery Jun 2018 #20
Maine, born and bred, but my mom was from PA so I picked GreenPartyVoter Jun 2018 #25
no hes just nuts. ive worked around autistic children before and baron is more on my radar samnsara Jun 2018 #14
Yep. I have wondered about him too. ElderGreenKid GreenPartyVoter Jun 2018 #27
Trump is a narcissist and a sociopath. CozyMystery Jun 2018 #16
"Aspies" (their own nickname for each other) are usually sweet & gentle. VOX Jun 2018 #17
Trump, is a narcissistic sociopath. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2018 #18
Agreed - and maybe a little senile dementia thrown in. Vinca Jun 2018 #19
If you have ever had a narcissist in your life... HopeAgain Jun 2018 #22
No. Trump has no special talent(s) and he never gets absorbed in anything Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #21
I object to the trivialization of autism by the casual use cyclonefence Jun 2018 #24
No... Mike Nelson Jun 2018 #28
As a parent of a child on the spectrum, NO. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #29
he's not smart enough to be an aspie, and mopinko Jun 2018 #30
Narcissm + early dementia area51 Jun 2018 #32

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
1. It would be an insult to autism. No, I believe he was badly damaged as a child
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:15 AM
Jun 2018

and it was never professionally addressed. A lot of the blame must lie with his parents, particularly Fred Trump. Quite often where the expectation and love is given to the eldest son, almost exclusively, it can have a profound effect on the second son who may display a pattern of disruption during their childhood and after, if not addressed.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
23. Not trying to disrespect anyone with Autism
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:27 AM
Jun 2018

it is just an honest question. There are mean horrible people with blond hair and really nice people with blond hair. It doesn't mean that asking if someone has blond hair means that I'm insulting everyone with blond hair because Trump has blond hair.

lamp_shade

(14,834 posts)
4. Aspergers perhaps? When I see trump flailing his arms I'm always reminded of my
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:53 AM
Jun 2018

friend (in his late 20's) who has aspergers syndrome. He doesn't do it constantly and has learned to control it to some degree, but when he gets nervous or panicky, he loses control of his arms. He doesn't flap them... he just swings them around in all directions... similar to trump. Who knows?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. Right. Where 5 of 9 was enough to qualify for narcissim disorder,
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:50 AM
Jun 2018

Trump gets an amazing 9 for 9. However, narcissim is not necessarily exclusive of autism, or other disorders.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
8. Trump is just a narcisstic
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:24 AM
Jun 2018

Person with a lack of empathy and, really not too smart. He is devious,a chronic liar who is in reality very insecure. He knows he is not qualified so covers up with bluster and rage against any one who dares cross him.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. He's a crook,
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:44 AM
Jun 2018

And has been taught to win at any costs, and no limits on how cruel he can be to get his way. If you've been around people with Autism, or on the spectrum its not like him. He's learn how to exploit our system, our legal system , and our system of law and order, and abuses it over and over again. Now he wants to clearly be above it, no surprise here, and if allowed to be above it be very scared . This guy is worse than anyone can imagine.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
11. No. He has zero empathy because he has narcissistic personality disorder -- not autism.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:45 AM
Jun 2018

That means he literally cannot put himself in anyone else's shoes. He is the center of the universe, and everything else must reflect back on him (or be obliterated.)

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
13. I don't see any similarities to the kids I've worked with. I do see
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:29 AM
Jun 2018

narcissism, maybe borderline personality traits, and I suspect he has learning disabilities. (I suspected * of having LD as well, but so didn't most of us.)

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
20. Are you from New England?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:55 AM
Jun 2018

I ask because "so didn't most of us" is the same as "so did most of us" in other areas of the country. I lived in Boston for 20 years and boy, that turn of phrase makes me homesick.


GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
25. Maine, born and bred, but my mom was from PA so I picked
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:52 AM
Jun 2018

up a few gems of hers as well, like "don't drink it all gone, or you'll be sorry." (Normally said when the waitress would bring our sodas before our meals. LOL)

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
27. Yep. I have wondered about him too. ElderGreenKid
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:56 AM
Jun 2018

was tagged pdd-nos back when he was a tiny tyke. I get similar vibes off of Barron.

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
16. Trump is a narcissist and a sociopath.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:41 AM
Jun 2018

Two of my adult children and plenty of other people I know are autistic.

They have senses of humor, are very smart, and very caring about the world they live in. They are the kindest people I know, and have the highest integrity of anyone I know. They love animals, hate violence.

My sons have nicknames I keep to myself -- one is The Diplomat and the other is The Therapist. They don't lack empathy, they temper it with logic and analysis. I'm not saying they are overflowing with empathy or sympathy -- I am saying that they see the points of view of others and can dispassionately work with people and talk them down from their over-emotional responses without offending them.

I trust either of these sons (I have more than 2) with my life, my dog, and my money. There aren't many people whom I trust with all three of those. And you could trust them that way, too.

The autistic people I know are absolutely nothing like Trump.

Today, I am glad my sons won't join DU. They don't have time -- they are too busy researching and writing and talking about politics and government (and social issues) on a global scale. (IOW, they would be an asset here.)

BUT they get very upset when they read an article about a school shooting and the first thing they read is speculation that the shooter is autistic. Total bullshit.

I can guess they would all (not just my sons) be horrified that anyone thinks Trump could be autistic, when he is so obviously not.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. "Aspies" (their own nickname for each other) are usually sweet & gentle.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:42 AM
Jun 2018

My stepson is “on the spectrum,” and he doesn’t have a mean or vengeful thought in his head. In fact, his shyness and social awkwardness tend to make him withdraw.

And he is as anti-Trump as they come.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
19. Agreed - and maybe a little senile dementia thrown in.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:55 AM
Jun 2018

Why else would he talk about a great letter and then, a few minutes later, say he hasn't read it?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
21. No. Trump has no special talent(s) and he never gets absorbed in anything
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:57 AM
Jun 2018

He has some cleverness about media and money laundering, but it is not a talent.

He is very distractable and has nothing he focuses on and gets lost in. Fox & Friends does not count; it is chewing gum for the mind.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
24. I object to the trivialization of autism by the casual use
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 08:30 AM
Jun 2018

of this diagnosis to explain behaviors we don't understand. Autism is real, and 99% of the people suggesting somebody else is "on the spectrum" have no idea what they're talking about. I think using autism in this way is mighty close to using the term "retard."

mopinko

(70,109 posts)
30. he's not smart enough to be an aspie, and
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jun 2018

he never was.
dementia? yes. autism? this is just insulting.
and btw, tho aspies have trouble SHOWING empathy, they have a lot.

signed,
proud mother of an aspie.

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