Bill Clinton's neighbor may have provided the answer to Trumps election

[Kyblue1]

On CBS Sunday Morning Bill Clinton talked about one of his neighbors who displays a "Lock Her Up" sign in his window. The neighbor told Clinton that Obama and Hilary started the second civil war. I believe that Putin perceived the division in this country a result of Obama's election and seized the opportunity to promote the racist, birther, misogynist Trump to stoke the fires of discontent among the wing nuts. What better way to defeat this country than from within? I have said for some time that Obama's election will, in the future be viewed either as a great step forward or the beginning of the decline of our democracy.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. NOTHING about Obama has ANYTHING to do with the decline we are experiencing

NOTHING

[Lochloosa]

2. I agree. His election did not make someone a bigot.

They always were

[underpants]

6. I'd disagree in one regard

I think that one of the final tipping points was that being elected the first woman President was going to be hard but doing so right after the first black President was too much for some people.

I'm not saying it's anything Obama did or didn't do, this (as the OP stated) was fanned to stay lit in people's minds. Trump was a chaos actor used by Putin. I doubt that even Putin didn't think he'd actually win but he could weaken the next POTUS and more importantly create chaos within the GOP/RNC.

[empedocles]

12. I agree, and it could get worse.

Obama, and then Hillary, provided very high visibility targets - that allowed the racist, sexist votes to mobilize better. It could get worse if Dems nominate for 2020 a black woman candidate for President. If that person was also jewish or muslim . . .

[ProudLib72]

7. You're damned right!

This second guessing about whether or not the country was ready for a black president or how Obama could have done so much more for race relations....It pisses me off. Were we supposed to pander to the bigots another fifty years? Give racism as pass? We chose the most suitable candidates for the job: Barack and Hillary. We did not choose based on how many prejudiced voters we could get like the GOP did.

[Kyblue1]

11. I didn't intend to imply that Obama did anything

Just that the reactionary wing nuts were ripe for arousal. I voted for Obama twice and for Hilary. The reaction to Obama and Hilary just shows that this country has a long way to go in fulfilling the promise of freedom, equality and justice for all.

[renegade000]

3. It was like the election of Lincoln

Caused the plantation elite and the hard white supremacists to absolutely freak out and engage in insurrection and treason. After the dust had settled, American democracy was greatly strengthened by removing the hypocrisy of slavery and attempting to codify into law equality (even if unsuccessful in practice for many years ). Of course, the MAGA crowd views all this as the beginning of the decline, hence the fetishism regarding Andrew Jackson.

[oasis]

4. Deplorable scum by the basketfull. Maybe truckloads. Those idiots

have made America the joke of the planet with their votes for Trump. The dipshits like Susan Sarandon, Killer Mike and Jill Stein own this.

[marble falls]

5. I think you're saying that Obama and Hillary bring racist reaction to themselves by ...

being a PoC and being a woman.

You hit the bigotry perfecta. What a load of racist claptrap.

[nolabear]

8. That was a really interesting interview.

Though ostensibly about the book Clinton and Patterson wrote together quite a bit of info was conveyed about other things.

[rzemanfl]

9. I have to wash socks, maybe later. n/t

[TeamPooka]

10. Physics: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

[Wellstone ruled]

13. For me,It was

the 2010 mid terms and then the big killer was the 2014 mid's. Working in Congressional Campaigns in both cycles,the misogynist's were running crazy under the surface and gaining strength and voice.

When door knocking and phone banking,some of the feedback was pure ugly. And of course,to damn many registered Dems just sat it out. This same smell came to the surface again after the Comey Letter. Have to say,it was surfacing a couple of weeks earlier. It all depended of News Media sources that our Registered voters used as their source.

[lame54]

14. Don't hang that shit on Obama

The honest hard-working real president
it makes it sound like he didn't have a right to run based on his skin color

[milestogo]

15. Nonsense.

[pwb]

16. Your right about Putin but talk radio and Fox News are also to blame for our divide.

Putin, fox, talk, all part of the plan to wreck our country. All are part of the team.

[MrScorpio]

17. That would imply that half of the electorate are bigots

Basically I’ve said that Trump’s election was mostly a white lash against Obama. Not it mention the fact that for 25 years, the GOPrs have been poisoning the political well against the Clintons.

Now we have an Internet troll in the White House.

Although the Russians interfered, we did this shit to ourselves.