Fox News writer - school shootings - create exits using "amazing cannon" to punch holes in walls

[underpants]

Fox News writer: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a … cannon

This is not the Onion.


Allison Barrie, a defense specialist, profiled the BCB Wall Breaker, which uses air pressure to fire objects, for Fox News:

Fired from this amazing cannon, ordinary water bottles become powerful tools to save the lives of children in active shooter school attacks.

Imagine students barricaded in classrooms with no way to escape. The shooter is roaming the hallways. The only exit is the door to the hallway. If students tried to escape via the hallway, they could be greatly at risk.

Outside the school building, police could roll up these water cannons and quickly punch holes in the walls of every classroom providing large escape holes.

If students have been wounded, first responders can use the hole to accelerate access to medical care.

In both these instances, escape and medical care for wounded, seconds are vital and can mean the difference between life and death.

Vox goes on with analysis at link
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/1/17418748/school-shootings-cannon-fox-news

[Voltaire2]

1. No really that totally makes sense.

We can't do the obvious and ban gunz, so what we need to do is use artillery to shell a school whenever there is concern that some idiot gunner has gone rogue again.

[underpants]

5. My wife's response - if the police are already there....

Oh yeah there's that. So the police "roll up" and don't actually go into the school but instead unload these cannons (assuming the cannons are permanently in place) load them with water bottles and go BLAM! BLAM! in EVERY CLASSROOM

[forgotmylogin]

52. But then the students will be throwing rocks...

Hey wait...how about this:

Every school has a bear in a cage in a central location in the school.

When there's an active shooter situation, they release the bear.

The bear will eat the gunman, problem solved.

[Turbineguy]

55. The bear would have to be armed.

The NRA would never agree to an unarmed bear. It's in the Second Amendment!

[Kittycow]

58. ...

[tazkcmo]

2. So

What happens to the debris of broken bricks, metal studs, screws, sheetrock etc after this amazing cannon blows open the hole?

Geez these people are stupid.

[SwissTony]

8. Exactly!!

The police are firing high velocity projectiles INTO the school. What could possibly go wrong?

[underpants]

12. Let's turn it around - what about the bears?

Remember DeVos said there was that whole bear problem in Wyoming.

[Hortensis]

17. Yes. They could enter the holes while

cannibalistic zombie motorcycle gangs tear up and down the holes, and then what?

[tazkcmo]

20. OMG!

You're right! Oh, the humanity!

[Blue_true]

42. Someone was not paying attention on high school physics.

The blown out wall and all it's nastiness is going to go right at the cowering kids, and likely kill a few.

[Yavin4]

31. "Geez these people are stupid." That's why they need racism to survive.

With an equal playing field, they'd starve.

[grantcart]

33. That's why they should use TNT charges to blow out instead of in.

Every school wall could have the charges built into the wall and a big button so that any student could push it and blow a hole with the blast going out.

Much better.

Really what could possibly go wrong?

[tazkcmo]

34. Absolutely nothing

This is an excellent idea. The only Improvement I could think of is having a button on every desk.

[grantcart]

36. Now you talking crazy

You would want just one button on one kids desk as the teacher would have her hands steadying her government issued Uzi.

This student who would be the official "Explosives Monitor" should be the child most experienced in explosives in their spare time.

My next door friend Carl and I would have been perfect for it because we would spend hours every day building cities in our back yard and then blow them apart along with our Tokin trucks using fire crackers we stole during the 4th.

The button idea is a keeper because Carl only had 3 fingers after the third grade.

[tazkcmo]

37. Are you my long lost brother?

We did the same thing. We also would douse our sisters Barbie dolls in lighter fluid and then put them on the Evel Knievel motorcycle that had the air power launch pad, light them and send them flaming down the street. It was awesome especially at night.

Good ol three-finger Carl. A man for all ages.

[CentralMass]

54. At least he can still order 3 fingers (of whiskey)

[Sneederbunk]

3. Body armor and grenades for all students.

[demmiblue]

4. OMG... this gets more bizarre by the day!

[pepperbear]

6. Someone's trying to sell BCB wall breakers to state governments.

[tanyev]

7. Many students killed or injured by collapsing wall, but hey, at least none of them were shot!

[underpants]

13. Aha! I've got it!

We put the amazing cannons on drones which can be flown to school shootings in no time.

BLAM! BLAM!

[moondust]

9. Next on Fox: Do away with schools!

No more school shootings (or smart voters or smart consumers demanding stuff that works)! Problem solved!

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. Aha! I think you are onto something.

This has all been a plot to destroy public education. I see it clearly now.

[VOX]

43. Yes! Those "government schools" just teach evolution, science, tolerance and diplomacy!

They're polluting innocent kids' minds with FACTS!

[rurallib]

10. Sounds like the infamous "destroy the village in order to save it" strategy

from Viet Nam. How did that go?

[Brother Buzz]

11. So, what happened to the idea of arming the kids with a bucket of rocks?

[Blue_true]

44. A bucket of rocks versus an assault weapon. Hmmmmmm.....

Ok, sounds like an even fight.

[Takket]

14. by the time the shooter is at the school it is already too late

in school strategy is nothing more than an attempt to mitigate a tragedy but it will never prevent a tragedy. the only thing that does that is making sure the shooter never gets to the school armed in the first place

[Blue_true]

46. If it is possible to call luck in school shooting.

The last two kids had conventional guns, but even with that, the kid in Texas killed 8 people. If either kid has and knew how to use an assault weapon, the body count at both shootings would have been massive.

I would guess that even gun nut parents are keeping assault weapons from their kids (at least until the fear of having their drawers sued off abates). But there is always going to be at least one parent who trusts little Joey, who they trained to be a marksman and a wiz with an assault weapon, during extensive training at the firing range.

[Initech]

15. Seriously - the only time that ever worked was in "The Naked Gun".

[demtenjeep]

16. My classroom is built out of cement bricks to make it a shelter

won't work at all...

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. Well, obviojusly we need a very small anti-tank type gun for that.

You know, the ones that have depleted uranium casings.

[Blue_true]

47. Even if they blew the bricks out.

The shrapnel would kill a lot of kids. It is going to go in the direction that what hit it was going in, which is into the classroom.

[Demovictory9]

21. like this?

[ProudLib72]

22. This deserves some more testing on actual buildings

I suggest NRA headquarters.

[ooky]

38. On a load bearing wall.

[Blue_true]

48. Yep, with actual cement holding blocks together.

I don't know whether you noticed, NONE of the blocks were connected by cement. The momentum dynamics change drastically once cement is added to the equation, then the size and release speed of shrapnel changes fairly dramatically.

[ProudLib72]

59. There was mortar. Take another look

However, I agree that those "walls" do not represent an actual building wall. Those little test walls did not have any rebar, and they didn't have the weight of a roof providing down pressure. No one would build a wall like that for an actual building (unless they wanted it to collapse).

[CentralMass]

56. Melania could use one to break out.

[anneboleyn]

23. What would happen to the ceiling in a case like this -- and in a multi-story building?

[Demovictory9]

27. and these example are all unreinforced concrete.. would this cannon break through rebar?

[tazkcmo]

35. Right?

These are faulty tests. Walls are not built like that. There are studs, wiring, insulation, pumbing, ductwork and rebarb.

And sometimes dead frogs from mischievous construction workers. Not that I'm speaking from experience. Honestly.

[Blue_true]

49. Not only unreenforced, but also no cement holding individual blocks together. nt

[underpants]

25. You know, when I read "water bottle" I was thinking of a water bottle like you'd carry around

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Not a water cooler water bottle.

[Demovictory9]

26. yeah, not that big thing they stuff in the cannon

[tblue37]

24. Or we could take steps to reduce the number of guns in our society.

After all, 50% of the guns are stockpiled by just 3% of the population.

[dameatball]

28. One problem with escaping an active shooter is that usually not everyone knows where they are or

how many. So the training is to hide in place until it's over. Why escape through a hole in the wall when you don't even know for sure how many shooters there are?

This is just dumb crap.

I have been wondering how long it will be until the shooters start adopting the old terrorist tactic of a secondary attack as first responders show up. Hope they don't.

[Thomas Hurt]

29. Hey I got a plan...

lets cut loose all the convicts in all the prisons, hand out guns to them and any American who wants one.........and put our kids and the elderly in the prisons so that they are safe and the kids have a safe place to learn..........perfect!


Do I really have to say this snark...

[Zoonart]

30. We must Destroy the schools to Save them...

when we could accomplish the goal of ZERO school shootings by tightening gun control.
People have done lost their minds.

[Blue_true]

50. Gun nuts have lost their minds trying to justify keeping their people killer assault weapons.

"Bring forward the cannons, I say. And if that don't work bring the holy hand grenades!!!!!"

[Zoonart]

51. And the counting if it shall be three.

[Blue_true]

53. Those were simpler days my friend. nt

[Zoonart]

57. So very true.

It makes me sad to remember when I could be won by a simple laugh.

[MuseRider]

32. GENIUS!

*snort*

[rickford66]

39. There's already holes in the walls called windows.

Why not build windows as escape exits ? Buses have them.

[underpants]

41. Wow

In all the discussion no one brought that up



As I posted above - my wife said "Well if the police are already there..."

[Blue_true]

40. By the time police get cannons to the school and in place.

A kid who has an assault weapon would have turned the school into a large graveyard. We can't keep counting on those things jamming to lower the body count, murderers will figure out to not let them jam.

[VOX]

45. "Ready...Aim...Water."

There should be a water cannon in every classroom in America, including its territories.

And how long before an innocent-but-inquisitive human decides to screw around with an H2O cannon?