Trump planning on pardoning at least a dozen people

[OliverQ]

Was just on CNN. The Tyrant is preparing a list of at least a dozen people he's going to pardon soon.


I freakin hate the pardon power. He's absolutely abusing it for his own personal gain, and Republicans are perfectly ok with it.

[Frustratedlady]

1. You don't suppose he'd have the balls to charge for the privilege, do you?

This is how bad it's gotten in the U.S. I believe he is capable of doing just that!

[sunonmars]

28. Would not surprise me, the blago shakedown that got him jailed.

[meadowlark5]

2. Republicans are ok with it because most are republicans or republican sympathizers

who committed crimes aiding republicans in some way.

What a disgusting party. The whole party is a crime family.

[el_bryanto]

3. Is it the pardon power that is wrong or is it the way it is being used?

I am curious about this; i generally favor the Pardon existing, but using it for political or financial game is obviously wrong.

Should there be more checks on it?

Bryant

[unblock]

6. not just wrong, but criminal.

even if he has the unfettered power of pardon, it's still possible that certain uses of a pardon might constitute, or be a part of, a crime, such as bribery or obstruction of justice.

never mind that it could also be an impeachable offense, at least given a congress willing to consider such a thing....

[melm00se]

13. The power of the presidential pardon

(when executed in accordance with the Constitutional language) has been affirmed since 1866.

In ex parte Garland, the Court's opinion included the following (emphasis added)

The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.

So unless the Supreme Court is willing to roll this ruling back and/or a Constitutional Amendment is proposed and ratified, there is little or nothing that either the Judicial or Legislative branches can do.

[spanone]

14. everything this 'man' does is wrong

[PearliePoo2]

4. Yup, the fucker is drunk with power. He's got a powerful toy that nobody can take away.

"I'm going to do whatever I want and nobody can stop me, so na, na, na, na naaaah"

Come on Mother Nature...please take him OUT. (today would work!)

[Funtatlaguy]

5. I hope he pardons a ton of people.

That’s a great issue for the Dems to use in the midterms.

[Hortensis]

8. We cross-posted. Me too! :)

I did hear that his previously floated set of names displayed a pattern of sending messages to those indicted so far that he'd pardon them. Which causes me to wonder if more names are more of the same, just more wacko attention-grabbing and diversion, or a way of obfuscating the message.

[onenote]

19. The number of pardons issued is not a good issue. Who is pardons would be a better issue.

Pardons used to be handed out by the bucketful. Both FDR and Truman averaged around 240 pardons a year during their presidencies. (with FDR giving out over 400 in one year)

Obama was more sparing in his use of the pardon power, but at the end of his presidency he made up for lost time. In December 2016, he granted 78 pardons one day. And a few weeks later, just a couple of days before Trump's inauguration, Obama gave out 60 more pardons.

So I wouldn't recommend making the number of pardons the issue. Rather, the recipients of the pardons should be looked at carefully and if any look dubious, those should be the issue.

[Hortensis]

7. Whatever. Unless it's a serial killer,... Come to think

of it, if only he'd pardon a serial killer. But this is going to backfire on him anyway.

Traditional conservative ideology may have been purged from the Republican Party, but conservative personality is wired in, and conservatives believe to their bones in the need for punishment to maintain order.

[hatrack]

11. Did the serial killer make five- or six-figure GOP donations?

If so, warm up the pen!!!

[Hortensis]

16. Lol. If he did, he's home on his estate or

put away on some white collar excuse out of courtesy to him.

[global1]

9. Seems To Me You Wouldn't Need To Pardon Innocent People......nt

[onenote]

20. Tell that the to the African American convicted of murder, but shown to be innocent

by DNA evidence through the work of the Innocence Project.

Tell that to Keith Cooper. https://www.thedailybeast.com/innocent-man-finally-pardoned-after-mike-pence-refused-to-clear-his-name

[underpants]

10. He wants to show SOMETHING is being done

Yes he's signing some laws about letting people try non-fully approved mess and he has a privatizing the VA one ready but even that isn't even funded. His own party is a mess in both houses. He just wants to show that's he's actually done something. Oh and he is stoking his base.

My 2 cents.

[spanone]

12. republicans are okay with him shooting someone on 5th ave if they're a democrat

cnn: The administration has prepared the pardoning paperwork for at least 30 people

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/donald-trump-pardons/index.html

[Freethinker65]

15. Look at it this way. The GOP's Marc Rich pardon hand wringing should be over

Wishful thinking, but perhaps all of these pardons are an indication that Trump may be trying to get everything done as quick as he can in case he needs to resign for "health reasons" (...or perhaps to take care of an "ill" Melania).

[k8conant]

17. That's what I've been thinking...

he's trying to pardon as many as he can before he's gone.

[PearliePoo2]

18. CNN reporting he has over 30 fresh, new pardons all queued up!

Over 30 freakin' pardons? Unprecedented in history.

Holy fuck, what the hell is going on?

[onenote]

21. Not even close to unprecedented.

See post #19.

[PearliePoo2]

25. Oh wow, I had no idea of those numbers! Looks like I'm very ignorant on the issue.

Thanks for educating me!

[kentuck]

22. Eleven nobodies and one accessory ...

Just to test the waters .

[Hugin]

23. Let's hope and pray these pardons are eventually as valuable as...

Trump University degrees.

[C_U_L8R]

24. He's toast if he pardons Manafort

The vortex of doom will open up and swallow him whole.

[Thomas Hurt]

26. A modern day version of an Indulgence...

wonder what Donnie's cut for Martha's would be...

[mr_lebowski]

27. This is perhaps to try to intimidate Mueller as Manafort's court appearance looms

And he is likely going to Jail. Make no mistake, dude knows where the bodies are buried.

This could be a tactic to make Mueller consider that Trump could decide to just blow up his entire case by just pardoning everyone if Mueller doesn't go easy on his buddy Paulie "Bones" Manafort.

Watch the dipshit tweet out that he's doing exactly that.

[lame54]

29. MSNBC says the # is at least 30