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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:00 PM Jun 2018

Donald Trump thinks the French burned down the White House during the War of 1812 *

PER CNN





* ON EDIT- Mea culpa. He blamed the Canadians



(CNN)President Donald Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had a testy phone call on May 25 over new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration targeting steel and aluminum imports coming from Canada, including one moment during the conversation in which Trump made an erroneous historical reference, sources familiar with the discussion told CNN.

According to the sources, Trudeau pressed Trump on how he could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. In response, Trump quipped to Trudeau, "Didn't you guys burn down the White House?" referring to the War of 1812.
The problem with Trump's comments to Trudeau is that British troops burned down the White House during the War of 1812. Historians note the British attack on Washington was in retaliation for the American attack on York, Ontario, in territory that eventually became Canada, which was then a British colony.

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html
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Donald Trump thinks the French burned down the White House during the War of 1812 * (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 OP
What? madaboutharry Jun 2018 #1
The French would have turned up their noses at the diner that was layed out lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #2
Macron must have jacked him around real good on the phone. roamer65 Jun 2018 #3
K&R for omg uppityperson Jun 2018 #4
But they did! MyOwnPeace Jun 2018 #5
I was just going to post this. How freaking ignorant and insulting can he get? George II Jun 2018 #6
+1... SidDithers Jun 2018 #14
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Glorfindel Jun 2018 #7
LOL! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #16
I have to wonder if he knows better he says this sh*t anyway to appear as ignorant as his followers Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #8
Trump did not go to actual Fordham Business school, he is an undergrad. But confusing Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #13
What is the actual quote? exboyfil Jun 2018 #9
Dolly Madison Saves George Washington Portrait from Canada Stallion Jun 2018 #10
ok... wait a second lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #11
I'd edit your subject line to properly reflect the Correct Incorrect Historical Assertion. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2018 #12
Forget it, he's rolling...nt SidDithers Jun 2018 #15

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
2. The French would have turned up their noses at the diner that was layed out
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jun 2018

for Mrs. Madison before burning the place down.

Idiot.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. Macron must have jacked him around real good on the phone.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jun 2018

Got him all confused and hating the French.

What a Dotard.

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
5. But they did!
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jun 2018

They wanted their chance to open a new, gawdy/cheap-ass hotel on that site!
You know, something with their name plastered all over the front of it and a YUGE oil painting in the lobby showing a giant orange pumpkin with the quote: "L'Etat, c'est moi!"

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. I was just going to post this. How freaking ignorant and insulting can he get?
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jun 2018

In 1814, the BRITISH burned down the president's residence in retaliation for Americans burning a private property in York (now a northern suburb of Toronto)

Canada didn't even exist as a country in 1814, it became "Canada" and an independent country in 1867.

Also, it wasn't the "White House" until after it was rebuilt and then painted white.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
8. I have to wonder if he knows better he says this sh*t anyway to appear as ignorant as his followers
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jun 2018

How do you get through a undergrad at Fordham or Penn without.......hold on, how do you get through a freakin private military highschool without knowing this....

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Trump did not go to actual Fordham Business school, he is an undergrad. But confusing
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jun 2018

folks is what he does...on everything.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
9. What is the actual quote?
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018

The burning of the White House was in response to the US burning of York (now Toronto).

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
11. ok... wait a second
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jun 2018

Main articles: War of 1812 and Origins of the War of 1812
The War of 1812 was fought between the United States and the British, with the British North American colonies being heavily involved.[112] Greatly outgunned by the British Royal Navy, the American war plans focused on an invasion of Canada (especially what is today eastern and western Ontario). The American frontier states voted for war to suppress the First Nations raids that frustrated settlement of the frontier.[112] The war on the border with the United States was characterized by a series of multiple failed invasions and fiascos on both sides. American forces took control of Lake Erie in 1813, driving the British out of western Ontario, killing the Native American leader Tecumseh, and breaking the military power of his confederacy.[113] The war was overseen by British army officers like Isaac Brock and Charles de Salaberry with the assistance of First Nations and loyalist informants, most notably Laura Secord.[114]

The War ended with no boundary changes thanks to the Treaty of Ghent of 1814, and the Rush–Bagot Treaty of 1817.[112] A demographic result was the shifting of the destination of American migration from Upper Canada to Ohio, Indiana and Michigan, without fear of Indian attacks.[112] After the war, supporters of Britain tried to repress the republicanism that was common among American immigrants to Canada.[112] The troubling memory of the war and the American invasions etched itself into the consciousness of Canadians as a distrust of the intentions of the United States towards the British presence in North America.[115]pp. 254–255

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So Canada (being British at the time) did fight in the war of 1812... ineffectively as it turns out.

And since Justin Trudeau is Prime Minister of Canada... we may have give this one to him (although no Canadians were involved with the burning of the White House).

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