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catbyte

(34,403 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 07:00 PM Jun 2018

Fascinating Kurt Eichenwald tweet: get the popcorn ready.




This lawsuit is devastating. And there is now no question - @seanhannity is going to be put under oath to find out if he coordinated with Michael Cohen & Stormy Daniels' former lawyer to help Trump discredit Daniels and cover up the affair. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/us/politics/stormy-daniels-lawsuit.html
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Fascinating Kurt Eichenwald tweet: get the popcorn ready. (Original Post) catbyte Jun 2018 OP
The results, interviews, judgments, decisions, none of it would matter if this was a Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #1
Because Republican propaganda media controls public debate sharedvalues Jun 2018 #22
Agreed. c-rational Jun 2018 #30
Word. +1000. n/t Beartracks Jun 2018 #32
very true bdamomma Jun 2018 #33
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2018 #36
Yes. To all of that. Just yes. It's obvious, even to non-partisan observers. Rainbow Droid Jun 2018 #43
Yes, for instance the poor reaction to the 2010 election by certain folks on the left Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #49
Brought to you by Ronnie R and the death of the fairness doctrine. CincyDem Jun 2018 #52
+1 2naSalit Jun 2018 #55
Just tuned to Sean Hannity after reading quartz007 Jun 2018 #31
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jun 2018 #2
Good observation Pepsidog Jun 2018 #10
Loved it from Day One malaise Jun 2018 #11
She looks so purty. Go Stormy. Glimmer of Hope Jun 2018 #35
Stormy is no dummy! Mopar151 Jun 2018 #56
+1,000 malaise Jun 2018 #58
Also, Meathead Hannity, the man with Mussolini's jowls, Hassler Jun 2018 #3
Perjury trap! tazkcmo Jun 2018 #4
Somebody SOMEBODY please make me an admiral ackbar 'perjury trap' gif... Volaris Jun 2018 #20
Oh shit! tazkcmo Jun 2018 #21
His entire career involves lying DBoon Jun 2018 #51
So my question is why would her attorney turn on her? Was he given some money? Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #5
"Extortion" Michael Avenatti Wwcd Jun 2018 #7
Em... Eyeball_Kid Jun 2018 #8
What? vi5 Jun 2018 #13
Davidson was in cahoots with Cohen. Avenatti's the white knight. fierywoman Jun 2018 #14
Davidson failed to get her a valuable media appearance jberryhill Jun 2018 #37
I don't think that is it. He wanted to get her on Hannity so Hannity could Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #41
Whoooooshhhh jberryhill Jun 2018 #44
Davidson was her previous attorney Generic Brad Jun 2018 #46
Oh, o.k. thanks.... vi5 Jun 2018 #50
Davidson pulled the same crap on S. Clifford ("S. Daniels") and klook Jun 2018 #23
Wow!! I didn't know he rep'd Karen McDougal. Duppers Jun 2018 #42
This guy seems like part of the Trump tag team. He "represents" the women (Stormy Daniels, tblue37 Jun 2018 #39
That's not what Avenatti claims jberryhill Jun 2018 #59
Apparently, facilitating "hush money" is his specialty. Mopar151 Jun 2018 #57
This afternoon's statement from Michael Avenatti Wwcd Jun 2018 #6
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #9
You guys don't think Sean Hannity will lie his rear end off? PatrickforO Jun 2018 #12
Cohen's records are in the hands of law enforcement. dem4decades Jun 2018 #15
Hannity will likely try and find a way apkhgp Jun 2018 #17
Nope. I think he'll fold and cry like a baby. bitterross Jun 2018 #26
Hammity will weep like a little school girl, and then he will tell more than NCjack Jun 2018 #48
What would Hannity have to lie about? jberryhill Jun 2018 #38
Hannity calls Trump ever night C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #16
An ethical news organization would fire an anchor who inserted himself into the news story More_Cowbell Jun 2018 #18
Is anyone here surprised? Not me. But is it illegal? Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #19
I wonder if there are fraud and conspiracy laws that apply. bitterross Jun 2018 #25
I don't know. Depends on whether what he said was true or false, maybe. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #47
Clearly, Cohen has the money to pay any award. bitterross Jun 2018 #24
Cohen is just a bag man. The $ went to Trump. Marcuse Jun 2018 #28
I think you are correct. I want to see that paper trail. bitterross Jun 2018 #29
Waterboard Hannity to get the truth out of him! kellytore Jun 2018 #27
Hannity in the mix. I will definitely get the popcorn ready. oasis Jun 2018 #34
Eichenwald seems to have a good reputation triron Jun 2018 #40
The suit was filed in California STATE court NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #45
This is a civil case, not a criminal case. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #53
Pinning down three liars bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #54

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. The results, interviews, judgments, decisions, none of it would matter if this was a
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jun 2018

Democrat, the mere fact that such things were accused, happening, they would be impeached overnight by both parties.

And if not impeached due to legal limitations, they would be marginalized and shunned and like no lame duck in political history.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
22. Because Republican propaganda media controls public debate
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:06 PM
Jun 2018

Our truth-seeking media ( which is strong) is shaped, and its conversation is often controlled, by Republican propaganda media.

That is how Benghazi became a “scandal”. Republican propaganda media talked about it enough that the truth seeking media felt forced to discuss it too.

That is the chief problem in America today. Our public debate is controlled by GOP lies and propaganda.

It is the reason trump is still in office. If not for Fox and Limbaugh the corrupt orange criminal would be at 18% approval and impeached by now.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
33. very true
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jun 2018

we are being or should I say some people are being abused/ or being brainwashed by this filthy regime.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
43. Yes. To all of that. Just yes. It's obvious, even to non-partisan observers.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 05:52 AM
Jun 2018

I call them "the rest of the world" but oodles of Americans don't seem to be aware that they exist at all. Weird, right?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
49. Yes, for instance the poor reaction to the 2010 election by certain folks on the left
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jun 2018

created a nightmare aka tea-party, and they were the OPPOSITE of original tea-party and too stupid to realize that.

Since then the dumb, outspoken, know nothings became politicians as a part of this movement and even without Rump DC is a nightmare because of these children.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
52. Brought to you by Ronnie R and the death of the fairness doctrine.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jun 2018

That's when we forgot that the broadcast airwave were a public trust and that all opinions should have equal access. Instead, we've got RW talk radio poisoning big parts of the country that live on AM radio.

This is why net neutrality is so important. It is, in effect, the fairness doctrine reapplied to the internet. Once it goes, content on the internet will start creeping and eventually rushing head long down the same path as AM radio - where Alex Jones is the only big voice in town and if you don't get it from his microphone, it doesn't exist.

malaise

(269,056 posts)
2. Get thee to the greatest page
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 07:04 PM
Jun 2018

Have to say that whoever selected that lilac suit for that court attendance is an expert on pleasing colors.
Lilac softens anything .

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
56. Stormy is no dummy!
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 05:05 PM
Jun 2018

Her business is making herself appealing to an audience - she's pretty good at it! Well spoken, personable, fairly intelligent as well. If she needed any coaching, Avenatti has it handled!

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
20. Somebody SOMEBODY please make me an admiral ackbar 'perjury trap' gif...
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:03 PM
Jun 2018

For the love of god, man, why didn't this exist 2 weeks ago lol?

DBoon

(22,369 posts)
51. His entire career involves lying
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jun 2018

He has been paid handsomely for spreading malicious falsehoods

Why should he stop just because of some attorney

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
5. So my question is why would her attorney turn on her? Was he given some money?
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 07:10 PM
Jun 2018

I can't think of a reason why any attorney would turn like this against their own client save for an offer of a lot of money.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
8. Em...
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

I’m not sure what you mean, but the attorneys in question are Cohen and Davidson. Avenatti is the attorney who is representing the aggrieved.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. Davidson failed to get her a valuable media appearance
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 10:51 PM
Jun 2018

Cohen wanted to get Daniels on Hannity. Davidson said she was traveling and couldn’t do it. Unable to reach Daniels, Davidson kept stalling Cohen until the opportunity evaporated.

Hannity has millions of viewers in her key demographic - old white male losers. Getting exposure on Hannity would have been extremely valuable to Daniels.

But instead, Davidson let that opportunity slip through his fingers, and this failed to serve his client’s interest in mainstream media exposure and promotion.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
41. I don't think that is it. He wanted to get her on Hannity so Hannity could
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jun 2018

get her to admit she lied. Hannity works for Trump. Stormy Daniels very own attorney wanted her to go against her best interests and say she didn't really have sex with IQ45.

Read the other responses to my post.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
46. Davidson was her previous attorney
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:13 AM
Jun 2018

He reached out to multiple women who had grievances against Trump and "represented" their interests when he was actually representing the interests of Cohen/Trump.

He tricked and misrepresented Stormy Daniels (among others) into signing NDA's and settling out of court for peanuts.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
50. Oh, o.k. thanks....
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jun 2018

..I thought the poster was talking about her current lawyer who seems great.

klook

(12,157 posts)
23. Davidson pulled the same crap on S. Clifford ("S. Daniels") and
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jun 2018

Karen McDougal: pretending to represent them when in fact he was collaborating with the "opposing" attorney, Michael Cohen, to represent Trump's interests.

That is unethical, to say the least, and -- although I am no legal expert -- it would seem to be illegal. Certainly it is a misrepresentation of intent to somebody who was supposedly his client.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
39. This guy seems like part of the Trump tag team. He "represents" the women (Stormy Daniels,
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:29 AM
Jun 2018

Karen McDougal) but is actually in cahoots with Trump & Cohen. Working together, he and Cohen suppress the women's stories while sleepwalking their payoff.

He was almost certainly Team Trump from the beginning, not really working on behalf of his ostensible clients.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. That's not what Avenatti claims
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 08:52 AM
Jun 2018

He was almost certainly Team Trump from the beginning


Then why doesn't Avenatti allege that?

The suit that Avenatti filed doesn't have anything to do with why and how Daniels hired Davidson in the first place, or about the contract negotiations.

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
57. Apparently, facilitating "hush money" is his specialty.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jun 2018

Not repersenting the interests of his client.

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
17. Hannity will likely try and find a way
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

IMHO he will dig up something from somewhere to get passed all of this. He is scum and it is second nature.


 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
26. Nope. I think he'll fold and cry like a baby.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jun 2018

He's the type that talks really big but when his ass is actually on the line he'll fold. He'll cry and he'll turn on anyone to keep his sorry ass out of any possible lock up.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
48. Hammity will weep like a little school girl, and then he will tell more than
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jun 2018

he knows, because she knows she will not last a day in prison.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
38. What would Hannity have to lie about?
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jun 2018

The Daniels story had broken days earlier, and Cohen was apparently in touch with Hanmity’s bookers to see if Hannity would put her on the show. Hannity obviously said yes. So?

Then Cohen contacted Davidson to see if Daniels was available. Davidson said she was traveling and couldn’t do it, and eventually Cohen changed his mind anyway.

I gather when you have a client who is in show business, and you get a call from someone who says they can get her millions of viewers in her key demographic, you are supposed to say “No. Go away.”

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
18. An ethical news organization would fire an anchor who inserted himself into the news story
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jun 2018

At Faux News it's a feature, not a bug.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. Is anyone here surprised? Not me. But is it illegal?
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:02 PM
Jun 2018

That will help Daniels' case, I guess. But Hannity's credibility is shot, now, to all but the deplorables.

I don't think it's illegal but could open him up to being sued by Daniels', if he said anything false and colluded with Trump to damage her credibility.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
25. I wonder if there are fraud and conspiracy laws that apply.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:23 PM
Jun 2018

Surely there must be something a prosecutor cans use. And it's all state - not federal. No pardons available.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. I don't know. Depends on whether what he said was true or false, maybe.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:40 AM
Jun 2018

A defense to slander or libel is that it's true. I don't know what Hannity said.

Her lawyer working with Cohen may be criminal, and is certainly civilly liable, since that is fraud.

But if a tv person gets with a party to a contract or lawsuit & agrees to emphasize this or that, or state certain things that are true, I don't see how that is criminal. Freedom of speech. But if it's false, that's different.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
24. Clearly, Cohen has the money to pay any award.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:21 PM
Jun 2018

He's on record receiving millions of dollars for access to 45. That money went somewhere. I'm curious as to where it went and I sure hope Stormy and Avanatti get a bunch of it.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
29. I think you are correct. I want to see that paper trail.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jun 2018

Those payments alone should be enough to impeach 45.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
45. The suit was filed in California STATE court
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:37 AM
Jun 2018

meaning a Trump cannot issues pardon for Cohen, Hannity or Davidson on this case.

Thank you Mr Avenatti

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
53. This is a civil case, not a criminal case.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jun 2018

Nobody is being criminally prosecuted in California with respect to the Stormy Daniels situation - only sued - so pardons are not an issue.

bucolic_frolic

(43,188 posts)
54. Pinning down three liars
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jun 2018

Avenatti has his work cut out for him. The defense strategy of confusion will be on display.

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