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Here is a link to the opinion
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4497680-Ms-L-v-ICE-Order.html
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)It is againts Human Rights.
When you think Eleanor Roosevelt chaired the Drafting Committee of the UDHR...
What a bitter irony!
malaise
(269,062 posts)Get thee to the greatest page
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I have yet to find any articles on this development.
BTW, this makes me so happy. It is time to give some money to the ACLU
malaise
(269,062 posts)This has to be stopped
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Its money well spent.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)but they dare call themselves Christian. Oh fuck no.
These 'people' are the worst scum to ever slither the earth.
Caging children!! WTF.
Jesus would beat the crap out of these Trumpist shitheads
and then some.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for . . . I was a stranger and you did not welcome me. . . .' Then they also will answer, Lord, when did we see thee . . . a stranger and did not minister to thee? Then he will answer them, Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And they will go away into eternal punishment. . . .'"
Matthew 25:42-46 (RSV)
See, also: Deuteronomy 10: 19 (You shall love the stranger, for you were once strangers in the land of Egypt.); Leviticus 19:34 (The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you.); Hebrews 13:1 (Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.)
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)but good to know they'll burn in eternal fire.
I've got marshmallows.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)Trump's supporters who claim to be Christian are surely aware of Matthew 25. They just choose to ignore it. Bad acts resulting from ignorance are more nearly understandable than knowing what is required and simply choosing to do otherwise.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)astray because of their leadership role...Huckabee (both), Pence,Kelly....rank and file all bound for hell.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)"If anyone causes one of these little onesthose who believe in meto stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
Matthew 18:6 (NIV)
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)The Evangelicals can't find their beliefs in the new testament because they are not there...the eye for an eye and smite everyone is in the old testament. Christianity is based on the new testament...so they deceive themselves. I hope some will repent but the arrogance makes be think many won't. And of course, supporting ripping kids from their parents and caging them is indefensible whether you are Christian or whatever...it is simply right vs wrong. I have a potty mouth(working on that/midwest plant influence that's my excuse) so I don't go out of my way to say stuff so as not make them say..."see, look how she talks". I often want to tell people...you find mostly sinners in church and that was how it was intended.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." Matthew 28:19-20. That includes the commandment to welcome immigrants.
I appreciate that I appear to be in the minority but there are some of us out there.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)but they practice it as a sectioned off part of their lives so it doesnt interfere with their hate for everyone who is not like them. They want it in the government but not in their private lives.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)It's not that they want Christianity in government. Rather, they espouse a heresy that ignores the Gospels in the name of a twisted Christianity.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I have seen the ruing on PACER and so I know that it is real. Pacer is a database for court filings and rulings used by lawyers
thbobby
(1,474 posts)America seems less and less like America. This is great. No decent person can condone mistreatment of children. My contempt and hatred of trump grow every day. I was so naive thinking I couldn't dislike him more when he was doing his birther bullshit before the election. America must prove to itself that we are not Nazis
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)is to join with ACLU: ACLU.org
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)brer cat
(24,578 posts)The ACLU has been fighting trump every step of the way.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)... in the event any portion of Defendant's motion was granted, the Court grants leave to file a Second Amended Complaint that cures the pleading deficiencies set out above. If Plaintiffs wish to do so they shall file their Second Amended Complaint on or before July 3, 2018.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Awesome!
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)K&R
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)this is a clear constitutional law violation https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/district-court-judge-rules-that-trump-administration-child-separations-would-be-unconstitutional.html
For Plaintiffs, the government actors responsible for the care and custody of migrant children have, in fact, become their persecutors. These allegations sufficiently describe government conduct that arbitrarily tears at the sacred bond between parent and child, and is emblematic of the exercise of power without any reasonable justification in the service of an otherwise legitimate governmental objective[.] Such conduct, if true, as it is assumed to be on the present motion, is brutal, offensive, and fails to comport with traditional notions of fair play and decency. At a minimum, the facts alleged are sufficient to show the government conduct at issue shocks the conscience and violates Plaintiffs constitutional right to family integrity. Accordingly, Defendants motion to dismiss Plaintiffs due process claim is denied.
As Sabraw noted, he is still poised to rule on whether or not separated families will be certified as part of the ACLUs requested class action lawsuit, and to determine if a preliminary injunction will be issued to halt a practice he describes as brutal, offensive, and [failing] to comport with traditional notions of fair play and decency. In other words, the class action question is still open, but his view that such a practice is shockingly cruel for constitutional purposes, does not seem to be in doubt.
The ACLU attorney who argued the case, Lee Gelernt, described the ruling to me as a powerful initial victory for his clients.
This is an enormous ruling, theres no question about it, because the major dispute between us and the government was whether there was a constitutional right [for] families to remain together in these circumstances, Gelernt told me.
The court has essentially said that the practice alleged in the suitand reportedly taking place all across our border for the past monthis a gross violation of the U.S. constitution. Now it has merely to determine whether the practice is actually taking place.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)This administration thinks that they can write the laws as they go. trmp's recent statement that he can pardon himself shows just how far he is willing to go to try to become god of the United States.
Remember DUers, the pendulem always swings back. Keep the faith. When we get this career criminal and his ass lickers out of office, I cannot wait for the laws to be passed that will prevent us from EVER having to endure another attempt at dictatorship.
We have got to remain strong. I have days where I just can't believe what is being allowed to occur in our names, and it sickens me, physically and emotionally. These criminals are trying their best to break us all of our American spirit. We just cannot let it happen.
So, again, tomorrow, I will take another deep breath and renew my hope.
Aros yn gryf.
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Chemisse
(30,813 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,991 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)dystopian, North Korean like Fox World. Calling the governments actions Brutal should make every citizen wake up because you might be next.
PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)It is also immoral and unAmerican as hell.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,191 posts)meanwhile their kids are in the best private schools money can buy, sometimes with taxpayer subsidies
don't you love hypocrites?
thoughts and prayers to you!
bdamomma
(63,877 posts)called their congresspeople up on this, we really need to scream this out, and apparently these abductions of children and parents being separated are not people coming over the border I heard could be those people who are being rounded by ICE. I am sorry I do not have a link about this.
Total sick bastards, they are to do this people and children.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)brought before the International Court of Justice in the Hague. And, the Nobel Peace Prize selection committee, I hope you are tracking this abuse of children and parents. He does not deserve the NPP. Instead, he should be in a prison.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)being repurposed as concentration camps for the innocent nazi righties?
Odd how Merkley was visiting a bunch of kids in cages, in a closed TX Walmart. Almost like any screaming crying accusation against normal people, by repugs, is actually something they plan on doing as soon as they think they can get away with it.