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Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:11 PM Jun 2018

THEY WILL NOT ABANDON HIM! EVER!

People have to get it through their heads there is nothing he can do that will turn off his base - wars where their kids come home in body bags, fuel prices, housing, jobs - you name it. They will not abandon him. It is a sickness born of fear, greed, vengeance and retaliation. As long as he is against their enemy - the godless (make that Jesus-less) libtards, they will not leave him, though they suffer mightily themselves.

We have to go around, through, and over these people. I've been saying it since the early days of "let's try to understand them" uselessness: YOU WILL NOT REACH THEM!

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THEY WILL NOT ABANDON HIM! EVER! (Original Post) Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2018 OP
Only if Fox and Limbaugh turn on him. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #1
They've already turned on Fox for the most part kskiska Jun 2018 #5
The Fox propagandists control the country right now sharedvalues Jun 2018 #6
Nope. tazkcmo Jun 2018 #2
Truth! They are cultists in serious need of deprogramming. n/t Different Drummer Jun 2018 #3
Have to agree with you not going to get through . Get our voters out instead !! FloridaBlues Jun 2018 #4
They are too small minded bdamomma Jun 2018 #8
A lot of these scumbags are dying off at an increasing rate. roamer65 Jun 2018 #7
I live among them. Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2018 #12
When Repugnants come to believe that Trump is costing them elections, TomSlick Jun 2018 #9
They can have him. The rest of us are gonna move on w-o them JDC Jun 2018 #10
OK, but can we agree that not everyone who voted for Rump are "his base?" Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #11
Agreed, my friend. Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2018 #13
a certain percentage are attracted by the underlying racism and "america first", anti immigrant Demovictory9 Jun 2018 #14
The ONLY thing that will ever make them turn on him Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2018 #15
Agreed, because their support is predicated Codeine Jun 2018 #16
You have summed it up very well. And it's been shocking and depressing to discover how widespread deurbano Jun 2018 #27
"It is a sickness born of fear, greed, vengeance and retaliation." Mister Ed Jun 2018 #17
This is true D_Master81 Jun 2018 #18
Always been that way orangecrush Jun 2018 #19
One of the things that makes them so hell-bent and focused is just awful. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #20
Fuck them. orangecrush Jun 2018 #21
I don't even think it's that. Duppers Jun 2018 #23
While abortion has been mentioned already, jb5150 Jun 2018 #22
And just why do they believe they need these guns?? Duppers Jun 2018 #24
+1000 Duppers Jun 2018 #25
No, they won't. Ever. He is the ultimate symbol of their need to hate... Guilded Lilly Jun 2018 #26
This has been the case since the 40's. Corvo Bianco Jun 2018 #28

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
5. They've already turned on Fox for the most part
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:23 PM
Jun 2018

except for Hannity, Judge Janine, and Fox & Friends. They're hoping that Sinclair will start up a new station with all their favorite hard-liners.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
6. The Fox propagandists control the country right now
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:26 PM
Jun 2018

Because the Fox and radio propagandists control the GOP base.

bdamomma

(63,877 posts)
8. They are too small minded
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jun 2018

and ignorant, and oh they feel so threatened by non white people. They are not called the minority for nothing.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
12. I live among them.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

You are correct the old are dying off, but rest assured their spawn will follow in their footsteps.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
9. When Repugnants come to believe that Trump is costing them elections,
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jun 2018

then - but not until them - some Repugnantants will abandon him.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
11. OK, but can we agree that not everyone who voted for Rump are "his base?"
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

Particularly here in the Upper Midwest, we're going to need some of the people who voted for Rump to vote for our candidates. I'm not talking about the a-holes with the giant TRUMP flags attached to the beds of their trucks. I'm talking about the disaffected blue-collar types and rural voters who voted, they thought, for change- any change. Hell, burning down one's own house is a change. I'm convinced some of these people don't want to burn it down again. A lot of them voted for Obama, and then the recovery never made it to them. That's a legitimate gripe. Voting for RUMP has made it worse, of course, and I think a lot of folks who didn't before now realize this!

Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
14. a certain percentage are attracted by the underlying racism and "america first", anti immigrant
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jun 2018

message. Nothing will shake them loose from Trump.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
15. The ONLY thing that will ever make them turn on him
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jun 2018

is if he reverses his stance on abortion. If he were to suddenly become pro-choice, they would storm the WH and electro-shock him back in line.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
16. Agreed, because their support is predicated
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jun 2018

entirely on making sure their cultural enemies are harmed, making sure the right people are made miserable, and all their tiny little evil prejudices are validated.

It is basically internet trolling taken to the level of national politics.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
27. You have summed it up very well. And it's been shocking and depressing to discover how widespread
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jun 2018

and virulent the "deplorable" condition really is.

Mister Ed

(5,940 posts)
17. "It is a sickness born of fear, greed, vengeance and retaliation."
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jun 2018

Very well put. Very well and succinctly put indeed.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
18. This is true
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jun 2018

There are those that voted for Trump, I know a few, that either: 1) didnt want Hillary as President or 2) thought he could be different, that aren't what I would consider his "base" but simply Trump voters. The base are gone, never to return forget them. But not every person that voted for him is a brain dead Trump humper or GOP hack.

orangecrush

(19,572 posts)
19. Always been that way
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 11:56 PM
Jun 2018

Hunter S. Thompson wrote about them.

He said they represent everything that is cruel and vicious in the American character.

"We have become a nazi monster in the eyes of
the whole world—a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and that is how history will judge us. . . . No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we’ll kill you.
Well, shit on that dumbness. George W. Bush does not speak for me or my son or my mother or my friends or the people I respect in this world. We didn’t vote for these cheap, greedy little killers who speak for America today—and we will not vote for them again in 2002. Or 2004. Or ever.
Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?
They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us—they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.
And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them."

- Hunter S. Thompson

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
20. One of the things that makes them so hell-bent and focused is just awful.
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 11:56 PM
Jun 2018

They don't have an endgame...an aspirational goal...a vision of the future. Drumpf tapped into a vast reservoir of anger...RAGE, even. His terrible messages resonated with people that have either been left behind by recent history and society, or deeply fear they will be.

They don't want to build something new. Not even shore up things not so new but in need of repair. They want to see the MF burn. Just like Bannon...they want to burn it to the ground. If they can't have a heapin' helping of the American Dream, they don't just want others to not have it....they don't want it to even exist.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
23. I don't even think it's that.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:14 AM
Jun 2018

RACISM is the soul motivation for the majority of these goober voters. They would be fine with a Nazi solution.



jb5150

(1,178 posts)
22. While abortion has been mentioned already,
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:14 AM
Jun 2018

I honestly think it's the gun issue that consumes them. they have been convinced by the NRA, and other nutcases, that the Democrats ultimate goal is to take away their guns. I've talked to some of them, and it's exactly what they say.

But I agree, there is simply no getting through to them. I honestly believe that even if their own child was gunned down in a school, they would not change their position on gun control even slightly.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
24. And just why do they believe they need these guns??
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jun 2018

To fight the government and for the future RACIST WAR.

They are SICK.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
26. No, they won't. Ever. He is the ultimate symbol of their need to hate...
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 01:15 AM
Jun 2018

He is the walking testament to the absolute worst of mankind. The human reward for the ignorant and The Stupid. The epitome of the reeking ugliness that has festered for generations, he survives now fed by an evil rage and enabled by the twisted foulness of human indecency that has temporarily been enabled.

He will eventually and thankfully be gone. Flesh and bone is mortal. His is wretched and decaying. Right in front of us, daily. Aided and abetted by weakened spines, a mostly impotent media and bewildered “higher road walkers” who face a daily character dilemma of lowering themselves to his level of vileness to combat him while still holding on to their truer uplifted souls.

Good vs Evil has always been so much harder for good in that regard. That battle is always so painful.

And truly, the hate will never be totally gone, ever.
Defeated, beaten down, forced back into a Pandora’s Box, yes. But never fully wiped out. Those infected will fester in their own ugliness and blinded self-destruction no matter what.

Whether we survive as a sane, better nation is frankly, questionable. Whether we can really learn and progress becomes more frustrating. Heart crushing.
Are we obliterated by sadness or strengthened by anger? Can it turn on a dime? Can we prevail?

I dunno. I hope. I cling. I resist. I AM angry. Seething at times.
I want to punch the hell out of so many faces but that goes so against my nature, my nurture.
I don’t feel powerful in any real way. I won’t respect any of them ever...but I can’t help them, either, nor want to anymore. I wish I didn’t think so deeply about it all.

Just can’t give up.

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