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https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters-unloads-on-sean-hannity?ref=homeEx-Fox News Analyst Ralph Peters Unloads on Sean Hannity
The former Fox commentator said Sean Hannity might actually believe his own conspiracy theories, but the others are smarter, they know what theyre doing.
Matt Wilstein
06.06.18 9:56 PM ET
Ret. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters isnt done taking his former employer to task. A few months after he quit his position as military analyst at Fox News in dramatic fashioncalling the network a propaganda machinehe appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night and went even further in his condemnation.
While President Donald Trump has claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller is leading a witch hunt against him, Peters argued on CNN that it is Fox News that is promoting a witch hunt against Mueller.
Peters went on to say he believes the network in general and particularly the prime time hosts are attacking our constitutional order, the rule of law, the Justice Department, the FBI, Robert Mueller, and other intelligence agencies. And they are doing it for ratings and profit, he added. And theyre doing it knowingly, and, in my view, doing a great, grave disservice to our country.
Asked by Cooper if the prime-time hosts actually believe their own conspiracy theories about the deep state, Peters singled out Trumps most loyal Fox News servant. I suspect Sean Hannity really believes it, he said. The others are smarter, they know what theyre doing."
I want to cry out and say, How can you do this? How can you lie to our country? How can you knowingly attack our Constitution, the bedrock of our system of government, the bedrock of our country? Peters said. And when you go after the Constitution, you best beware, because you are doing a phenomenal, indeed immeasurable damage.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)is that dumb....
And so is Trump.
Everyone else around them is smarter... manipulating....
brush
(53,791 posts)Talk about manipulatingit sure isn't trump manipulating Putin on those phone calls.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)Actually happened in wife's family. Long story
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)slater71
(1,153 posts)His ego is a big as Trumps. He wants to be like Trump. Anyone that is on his show who talks about any subject Hannity turns it toward and what he did or said and how he was right. Who does that sound like?
malaise
(269,054 posts)I can't believe what I'm reading
sweetroxie
(776 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)sunlei, 2007
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)There you have it - the KGOP republican party in a nutshell.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)Nitram
(22,822 posts)"For years, I was glad to be associated with Fox. It was a legitimate conservative and libertarian outlet."
No it wasn't. They've been dealing in propaganda and misinformation since they started. Only someone with his head up his ass could think otherwise.
That's when my bs meter went off.
Peace
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)These people know - Some are betting we'll end up with a fascist dictatorship with Trump then Don Jr. They are acting accordingly.
This guy, Peters, is betting the other way. By denouncing this, he gets out of the way of the millstone of justice, which we hope will grind up Trump and his posse.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)It really puts him in the light of "as long as it was MY BS they were selling, it was fine..."
He's complaining that they changed the flavor of bath water he's been drinking.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)It was disgusting back in the Bush II years, and it has only gotten worse. If it weren't so serious it would be funny, the twisting and turning and lying they do Their machinations are so obvious that it seems farcical. But, deplorables eat up those lies, and have for many years now.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)they were part of the vast right wing conspiracy, which just got vaster and more conspiratorial.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I was in my last course for my MA. The class spent the first 1/4 to 1/3 of each session correcting the verbal diarrhea of a FAUX-watching dim-bulb from an ultra-conservative college across town. I don't know how he got into a grad-level class. He was truly an idiot, and we wasted tons of our time. The prof was about the kindest man ever, and I can still see the sad look on his face as he gently debunked the pure drivel that poured forth.
librechik
(30,674 posts)well...
welcome, repentant NeverTrumper. All hands on deck!
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)"necessary". Too little too late.
47of74
(18,470 posts)It was never necessary. Ralph was all too willing to prostitute himself to attack President Obama and the Democrats.
But, going back to its very beginnings, Fox had the opportunity to be a voice of reason (as reasonable as conservatism will allow). But Rupert Murdoch does not do reason, has never done reason, will never tolerate reason -- especially when big fat ratings are waiting in the wings for demagogic bull-puckey and fascist propaganda. It (Fox) tempered its lies somewhat 'til Obama came along. But if it hadn't been Obama, it would certainly have been Hillary, both of whom are more intelligent, more clear sighted, more honest than anyone at Fox, ever. So Murdoch unabashedly unleashed the fury of alt-right ignorance on them and any and all who might choose to support them. But now, with Trump, all restraint is gone, and Fox is just 21st century Goebbels, shamelessly lying, promoting the lies of others, venting racist and xenophobic hatred, stirring up fear and division.
I think Peters went eagerly along with the lying arrogance that was and has always been Fox's trademark until the vileness got so bad that even he couldn't help seeing it on his face in the mirror every morning. But liars always lie. So he quits, turns coat on a network that has grown viscerally loathsome, and now lies to himself and to Cooper that he (Peters) was always, after all, a man of honor and decency who, alas and alack!, must now leave this network because its conservative sheen has changed to crap--- and, tells Cooper, essentially, "I sure didn't see that coming!" Yeah, right, pal.
And as for Hannity: I don't agree he's stupid. I think his intelligence (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's exceptionally gifted or anything) has been back-burnered by his basic, nasty, ugly, evil propensities. He's a modern anti-Faust. Faust, as I recall, sold his soul in exchange for knowledge. Hannity has sold his poor, scrawny little soul for ignorance. Faust wanted to know more. Hannity wanted to know less, and, of course, get rich by selling his demonic ignorance to the public.
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Now he wants to clean up his name. Too late for that, mister.
RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)He knew he was working for the devil. And once you sell your soul, as I understand it, you can't ever get it back.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I tripped over the same "legitimate" and "necessary" bullshit line everyone else did. But let's focus on some of the other things Peters said, and who the audience for those remarks might be. Is that audience going to listen to the likes of us at DU? Fat chance. But quote Peters' comments about the Constitution and immeasurable damage to them and see if you can't get the rusty machinery of their brains clanking back into activity.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)but if they get their news from Fox, they'll never hear this. I'm not going to forget who he really is, nor do I want other Democrats to forget.
Dorn
(523 posts)Dem_4_Life
(1,765 posts)How will they ever see instances where people who were former Fox people (that they probably like/liked) would they actually believe these people.
Do you think if more people like this spoke out it would make a difference? Or is it just hopeless since they won't believe them when they aren't a part of the Fox cult or hopeless since they probably would never hear these things since it isn't on Fox?
What will it take to get through to the average Fox viewer?