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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:22 AM Jun 2018

Ex-Fox News Analyst Ralph Peters Unloads on Sean Hannity

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters-unloads-on-sean-hannity?ref=home

Ex-Fox News Analyst Ralph Peters Unloads on Sean Hannity
The former Fox commentator said Sean Hannity might actually believe his own conspiracy theories, but ‘the others are smarter, they know what they’re doing.’
Matt Wilstein
06.06.18 9:56 PM ET


Ret. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters isn’t done taking his former employer to task. A few months after he quit his position as military analyst at Fox News in dramatic fashion—calling the network a “propaganda machine”—he appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night and went even further in his condemnation.

While President Donald Trump has claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller is leading a “witch hunt” against him, Peters argued on CNN that it is Fox News that is promoting a witch hunt against Mueller.

“For years, I was glad to be associated with Fox. It was a legitimate conservative and libertarian outlet. And a necessary one,” Peters told Cooper. “But with the rise of Donald Trump, Fox did become a destructive propaganda machine. And I don’t do propaganda for anyone.”


Peters went on to say he believes the network in general and “particularly the prime time hosts” are attacking “our constitutional order, the rule of law, the Justice Department, the FBI, Robert Mueller,” and other intelligence agencies. “And they are doing it for ratings and profit,” he added. “And they’re doing it knowingly, and, in my view, doing a great, grave disservice to our country.”

Asked by Cooper if the prime-time hosts actually believe their own conspiracy theories about the “deep state,” Peters singled out Trump’s most loyal Fox News servant. “I suspect Sean Hannity really believes it,” he said. “The others are smarter, they know what they’re doing."

“I want to cry out and say, ‘How can you do this? How can you lie to our country? How can you knowingly attack our Constitution, the bedrock of our system of government, the bedrock of our country?’” Peters said. “And when you go after the Constitution, you best beware, because you are doing a phenomenal, indeed immeasurable damage.”
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Ex-Fox News Analyst Ralph Peters Unloads on Sean Hannity (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2018 OP
I think Hannity Dorian Gray Jun 2018 #1
Yes, and there was a report yesterday that trump and Putin talk everyday. brush Jun 2018 #2
Like the asshole grandson working grandpa to redo the will dembotoz Jun 2018 #5
known fox installed many in the WH & contacts trump daily for many years-hannity link- Sunlei Jun 2018 #7
Like Trump, Hannity cant help himself. slater71 Jun 2018 #25
Hannity should be arrested for his comments last night malaise Jun 2018 #3
What Hannity did is obstruction of justice sweetroxie Jun 2018 #4
fox lies Sunlei Jun 2018 #6
"a great disservice to our nation..." Achilleaze Jun 2018 #8
That was an interview that should make everyone in this country terrified. Vinca Jun 2018 #9
Peters is a tool. Nitram Jun 2018 #10
Exactly hibbing Jun 2018 #11
LOL, well the guy's a rat leaving a sinking ship. PatrickforO Jun 2018 #13
Yeah, that's a bit messed up zipplewrath Jun 2018 #16
Exactly! Nitram Jun 2018 #23
They've been peddling RW propeganda for years The Genealogist Jun 2018 #26
Actually right wing talk radio and Faux News got their start during Bill Clinton's presidency. Nitram Jun 2018 #27
I remember fighting the stupid, back in 2002 The Genealogist Jun 2018 #29
indeed.After many years of devotion, suddenly he realizes the truth?(snicker) librechik Jun 2018 #30
Wow! Finally a crack in the dam. Pepsidog Jun 2018 #12
Yeah, fuck you Ralph. That worthless piece of shit network was never Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #14
Exactly 47of74 Jun 2018 #15
Agree RVN VET71 Jun 2018 #20
He got his money Scalded Nun Jun 2018 #17
Totally agree RVN VET71 Jun 2018 #21
It's easy to be cynical about Peters and his motivation gratuitous Jun 2018 #18
Oh, I'm glad he said it and I hope it turns a few conservatives our way. Nitram Jun 2018 #24
"legitimate libertarian outlet" is an oxymoron Dorn Jun 2018 #19
If Fox viewers ONLY watch Fox then what will it take to get through to them and how.... Dem_4_Life Jun 2018 #22
PUTIN WINS AGAIN BadGimp Jun 2018 #28

brush

(53,791 posts)
2. Yes, and there was a report yesterday that trump and Putin talk everyday.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:42 AM
Jun 2018

Talk about manipulating—it sure isn't trump manipulating Putin on those phone calls.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
5. Like the asshole grandson working grandpa to redo the will
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:13 AM
Jun 2018

Actually happened in wife's family. Long story

slater71

(1,153 posts)
25. Like Trump, Hannity cant help himself.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jun 2018

His ego is a big as Trumps. He wants to be like Trump. Anyone that is on his show who talks about any subject Hannity turns it toward and what he did or said and how he was right. Who does that sound like?

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
10. Peters is a tool.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:23 AM
Jun 2018

"“For years, I was glad to be associated with Fox. It was a legitimate conservative and libertarian outlet."

No it wasn't. They've been dealing in propaganda and misinformation since they started. Only someone with his head up his ass could think otherwise.

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
13. LOL, well the guy's a rat leaving a sinking ship.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:38 AM
Jun 2018

These people know - Some are betting we'll end up with a fascist dictatorship with Trump then Don Jr. They are acting accordingly.

This guy, Peters, is betting the other way. By denouncing this, he gets out of the way of the millstone of justice, which we hope will grind up Trump and his posse.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Yeah, that's a bit messed up
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jun 2018

It really puts him in the light of "as long as it was MY BS they were selling, it was fine..."
He's complaining that they changed the flavor of bath water he's been drinking.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
26. They've been peddling RW propeganda for years
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jun 2018

It was disgusting back in the Bush II years, and it has only gotten worse. If it weren't so serious it would be funny, the twisting and turning and lying they do Their machinations are so obvious that it seems farcical. But, deplorables eat up those lies, and have for many years now.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
27. Actually right wing talk radio and Faux News got their start during Bill Clinton's presidency.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jun 2018

they were part of the vast right wing conspiracy, which just got vaster and more conspiratorial.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
29. I remember fighting the stupid, back in 2002
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jun 2018

I was in my last course for my MA. The class spent the first 1/4 to 1/3 of each session correcting the verbal diarrhea of a FAUX-watching dim-bulb from an ultra-conservative college across town. I don't know how he got into a grad-level class. He was truly an idiot, and we wasted tons of our time. The prof was about the kindest man ever, and I can still see the sad look on his face as he gently debunked the pure drivel that poured forth.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
30. indeed.After many years of devotion, suddenly he realizes the truth?(snicker)
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jun 2018

well...

welcome, repentant NeverTrumper. All hands on deck!



 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
15. Exactly
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:44 AM
Jun 2018

It was never necessary. Ralph was all too willing to prostitute himself to attack President Obama and the Democrats.

RVN VET71

(2,692 posts)
20. Agree
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jun 2018

But, going back to its very beginnings, Fox had the opportunity to be a voice of reason (as reasonable as conservatism will allow). But Rupert Murdoch does not do reason, has never done reason, will never tolerate reason -- especially when big fat ratings are waiting in the wings for demagogic bull-puckey and fascist propaganda. It (Fox) tempered its lies somewhat 'til Obama came along. But if it hadn't been Obama, it would certainly have been Hillary, both of whom are more intelligent, more clear sighted, more honest than anyone at Fox, ever. So Murdoch unabashedly unleashed the fury of alt-right ignorance on them and any and all who might choose to support them. But now, with Trump, all restraint is gone, and Fox is just 21st century Goebbels, shamelessly lying, promoting the lies of others, venting racist and xenophobic hatred, stirring up fear and division.

I think Peters went eagerly along with the lying arrogance that was and has always been Fox's trademark until the vileness got so bad that even he couldn't help seeing it on his face in the mirror every morning. But liars always lie. So he quits, turns coat on a network that has grown viscerally loathsome, and now lies to himself and to Cooper that he (Peters) was always, after all, a man of honor and decency who, alas and alack!, must now leave this network because its conservative sheen has changed to crap--- and, tells Cooper, essentially, "I sure didn't see that coming!" Yeah, right, pal.

And as for Hannity: I don't agree he's stupid. I think his intelligence (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's exceptionally gifted or anything) has been back-burnered by his basic, nasty, ugly, evil propensities. He's a modern anti-Faust. Faust, as I recall, sold his soul in exchange for knowledge. Hannity has sold his poor, scrawny little soul for ignorance. Faust wanted to know more. Hannity wanted to know less, and, of course, get rich by selling his demonic ignorance to the public.

RVN VET71

(2,692 posts)
21. Totally agree
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:19 AM
Jun 2018

He knew he was working for the devil. And once you sell your soul, as I understand it, you can't ever get it back.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. It's easy to be cynical about Peters and his motivation
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:02 AM
Jun 2018

I tripped over the same "legitimate" and "necessary" bullshit line everyone else did. But let's focus on some of the other things Peters said, and who the audience for those remarks might be. Is that audience going to listen to the likes of us at DU? Fat chance. But quote Peters' comments about the Constitution and immeasurable damage to them and see if you can't get the rusty machinery of their brains clanking back into activity.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
24. Oh, I'm glad he said it and I hope it turns a few conservatives our way.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:57 PM
Jun 2018

but if they get their news from Fox, they'll never hear this. I'm not going to forget who he really is, nor do I want other Democrats to forget.

Dorn

(523 posts)
19. "legitimate libertarian outlet" is an oxymoron
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:15 AM
Jun 2018
Libertarian is a best learned and forgotten in high school.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
22. If Fox viewers ONLY watch Fox then what will it take to get through to them and how....
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:32 AM
Jun 2018

How will they ever see instances where people who were former Fox people (that they probably like/liked) would they actually believe these people.

Do you think if more people like this spoke out it would make a difference? Or is it just hopeless since they won't believe them when they aren't a part of the Fox cult or hopeless since they probably would never hear these things since it isn't on Fox?

What will it take to get through to the average Fox viewer?

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