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(16,254 posts)I, personally, don't want to even think about it, but we must. What is happening at the border is scary enough and other things people are uncovering should wake us up, but all we are doing is arguing and poking fun at each other. I do it, too, so don't chew me out for saying that. I just worry about my great-grandkids who are standing at the doorway to a horrid generation if we don't stop it now.
I'm not saying we will have a reincarnated Nazi period, but it will be something similar. Trump won't live that much longer, so I don't think he will be part of it, but he will enable Putin and his crew to come in and make the US theirs. No, I don't know how we, the people, will allow this to happen, but neither did the Jews in Germany.
We need to keep the possibilities at the forefront in our minds and start watching very closely. Thank God for Democratic Underground. It keeps us sane...most of us. ::
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)The extent of what the Nazis did. Most only know about the concentration camps and the gas chambers, but there was so much, much more that they were responsible for starting in the 1930's. History will definitely repeat itself if were not careful. GOTV
Tucker08087
(621 posts)And had definite opinions that would now be labeled as Democratic in ideology. Stars upon thars? When I was teaching, turning the cartooned stars into the Jewish star used in Nazi Germany for lessons in tolerance for young children was too easy, and I believe intentionally designed that way. The story about the Truffula Trees is an Earth Day lesson before its time. I used it every year.
Sometimes we act like children. (Some of us more than others.) I truly believe he targeted two audiences.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)'The Sneetches', 'The Lorax', and 'The Butter Battle Book' are pretty convincing pieces of evidence for that.
Also, when the right-to-life crowd grasped at 'Horton Hears A Who' and the refrain "A person's a person, no matter how small" to promote an anti-choice agenda, Dr. Seuss's widow came down pretty hard on them, stating that was never his intention.
BTW, welcome to DU!
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)...American-Japanese.
Yet, it was a fact that the Japanese Empire attacked the US without provocation, thus putting their people in the same category as Germans and Italians when it came to being mercilessly lampooned by political cartoonists.
Of all the things that bother me, Seuss's WW II cartoons fall in the category of "You had to be there," or, "That was then, this is now."
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)...to learn from our past. Of all the things Dubya did that I disagreed with and even despised, his efforts to keep the more idiotic members of our nation from attacking every Middle Easterner and Sikh and to engender some understanding of "modest women in hijabs" was wholly admirable.
Now we have Trump, who panders to the basest parts of our national character.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It wasnt another country.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)What our government did to them is what Trump would love to do to Muslims and Mexicans plus anyone south of the border.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)What was the predominant religion in Japan in 1941?
Did we say that the Buddists attacked us? No.
Pearl Harbor was an attack by State actors, and 9/1 was an attack by non-state actors.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)and then you can argue with facts.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)with Japan in WWII you arent very knowledgeable of history.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Im saying the cartoons above conflate Japanese Americans with potential terrorists on US soil back then. Just like Muslims today. Bottom line is the cartoon was racist. Period.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and I actually agree with you. Im really sorry for misunderstanding your point.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)My fault probably. I despise typing on iPhones, so I may have been too brief and unclear.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)and the immigrants stealing jobs were from Italy, Ireland, Eastern Europe, etc.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Would remember that treatment, and start voting accirdingly. Old Man Bush was arguably a Republican before he was born. Me, not so much...
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)Mosby
(16,319 posts)About the inherent cruelty of isolationism.
Wawannabe
(5,666 posts)The mothers shirt message! America first!
WOW. Just Wow. Seems like that was ripped off and Mrs. Suess or heirs should follow up and in a hurry!
What the hell? Right?
On another note. I once write to Lawrence Tribe via email. He responded. With good advice. It was before tRump stole our national flag and the right to live in the WH. Lawrence Tribe is a man of honor.
We all know what tRump is. Despicable!
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Theodore Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss, made many editorial-type cartoons prior to and during the WW II era. "America First" is a very old isolationist slogan, dug up from the grave by Bannon and Trump.
Wawannabe
(5,666 posts)yes. I didnt know so old and reused by others. And dug up as you say.
Not sure why I confused you by hoping tRump could be caught infringing and writing about it in a reply. Melania (or aides) used same words as Michelle Obama. tRump does steal. And lie. And cheat people. It is not a far fetched idea.
Thanks for your historical info critique.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)That is an authentic, unaltered political cartoon
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dr-seuss-adolf-wolf/
rpannier
(24,330 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Don't forget: Irish/Italians need not apply.
Anti-Catholic sentiment was high back in the 1800s.
(Still is in many evangelical circles)
AZ8theist
(5,477 posts)This all reverts back to Feudalism that existed centuries ago.
Homo Sapiens have not evolved enough..yet, to throw away the shackles of kings, monarchs, or fascists.
We are today still living with humans, barely above the level of human sacrifice to "gods". They simply disguise themselves as "Capitalists" , or "Oligarchs", or "Nazis", or todays so-called "alt-right". (or even "Republicans"
These are humans who are ready, willing, and able to kill off their fellow human beings in the name of whatever benefit suits them. Mostly monetary.
Someone please tell me how they differ from the "leaders" of two, three, or ten thousand years ago. We think we're SO advanced, but in reality we're not. We're still primitive, just with better technology.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)military during WW2. He wrote his books for adults as much as for children (to help them read) and he was not especially fond kids and had none. As an illustrator and teacher in San Diego (where he lived) I learned a lot about him and his artwork.