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BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:40 PM Jun 2018

Do you think we are in a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS right now?

I have heard very experienced and educated politicians and historians say that we ARE in a constitutional crisis currently.

Ralph Peters left the network in March after sending a blistering farewell note to some of his colleagues. The note shocked the TV news industry because he accused Fox of "assaulting our constitutional order. " He said that we ARE in a constitutional crisis NOW as have many, many others who are outright scared.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/07/media/ralph-peters-fox-news-anderson-cooper/index.html

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Do you think we are in a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS right now? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jun 2018 OP
I think we've been in a constitutional crisis since 11/16 RexCasual Jun 2018 #1
Honestly Cosmocat Jun 2018 #9
Boehner was Mr. Obstruction during the Obama years. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #12
I have a long memory of saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #27
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #20
Totally RandomAccess Jun 2018 #21
Agreed.....nt 2naSalit Jun 2018 #29
Yes, but most don't know it... kentuck Jun 2018 #2
That repukes have done nothing to hold him accountable or checked his actions NightWatcher Jun 2018 #3
Is having no chcks and balances considered BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #7
Theyre Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #8
Trump is closer to Impeachment than many realize quartz007 Jun 2018 #28
I think we're in a POST constitutional crisis. Fozzledick Jun 2018 #4
Yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #5
Yes. Adrahil Jun 2018 #6
Fox News is obstructing our way of life and has been since the 2000 election. Initech Jun 2018 #10
Yes. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #11
Yes Progressive dog Jun 2018 #13
Yes ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #14
Sometimes the "nut job" is the voice of reason that no one listens to until it is too late. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #17
You've given me an idea for an OP! ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #23
We've been in one for at least 50 years Quemado Jun 2018 #15
Yes, definitely CatMor Jun 2018 #16
Absolutely! imanamerican63 Jun 2018 #18
We've have a 'president' who obstructs justice every day of the year....YES!!! spanone Jun 2018 #19
Yes, we're to that point. nt herding cats Jun 2018 #22
Yes we are but I simply do not know what that means anymore. Marie Marie Jun 2018 #24
That is what is so frustrating...!!!!! BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #25
Yes Snackshack Jun 2018 #26
Yes our only recourse is to vote!!! Lifelong Protester Jun 2018 #30
We have traitors in charge. GeorgeGist Jun 2018 #31

RexCasual

(171 posts)
1. I think we've been in a constitutional crisis since 11/16
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:44 PM
Jun 2018

when Trump stole the election with the help of Russia (and Lord knows who else).

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
9. Honestly
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:00 PM
Jun 2018

It was well before then see Mitch McConnell not seating a Supreme Court Justice, and just general Republican jackassery for 8 years. No president in my 50 years has dealt with what he dealt with from day one with Congress.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
12. Boehner was Mr. Obstruction during the Obama years.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:11 PM
Jun 2018

Since he left many Americans seem to "forget" what he did to the country and Obama's goals. Newt Gingrich was the beginning of the end of justice in the US. Bush, Cheney, etc followed his lead. The GOP is a destructive monster that can't be stopped.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
27. I have a long memory of
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:12 PM
Jun 2018

former crooks in our White House. Starting in my day with Tricky Dick, Reagan with dementia (Nancy and her astrologer running the west wing coo coos' nest) and the list goes on....

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. That repukes have done nothing to hold him accountable or checked his actions
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jun 2018

is imho the bigger crisis.

He's acted recklessly, corruptly, and extremely criminally and they have done nothing.

That is what makes me even more angry.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
8. Theyre
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:53 PM
Jun 2018

saving all the rules and enforcement for a dem president who has to start all over on healthcare, iran, co2, abortion, etc. We won all of it, and they just cheated and took it back. Never ending grief.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
28. Trump is closer to Impeachment than many realize
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:20 PM
Jun 2018

The republicans do NOT like Trump either. All you have to do is check how many republican senators and House Reps supported Trump over the other 15 candidates during primaries. Even the so called conservative talking heads on TV were against Trump.

But Trump won by scaring ordinary people that their country was being invaded by foreigners, who were taking their jobs away or lowering their wages. That was Trump's theme during the entire campaign...build the wall and deport the immigrants. He made a very big deal about Kate Stanley getting killed by an illegal immigrant.

Now that Trump is talking tariffs, the republicans are mad. All it will take now is substantial charges from Mueller and the blue wave coming in November, and articles of impeachment will pass quickly. I hope it is sooner than 2 years in office.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
4. I think we're in a POST constitutional crisis.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

Our government has been overthrown by Russian backed gangsters and we are now in a state of nature.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. Yes.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

Just like we lived through a back breaking minor depression during the Bush years noone wanted to cop to. It doesnt happen....if the news doesnt say it happened.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. Yes.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

WE have a corrupt President routinely defying the rule of law and his Congressional cronies who refuse to perform their Constitutional duties.

And it will get worse. Our Republic will be lucky to survive it.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. Fox News is obstructing our way of life and has been since the 2000 election.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jun 2018

We would be in a much different place now if not for that piece of shit network. Now we have a president who THEY CONTROL and one of their anchors literally told people under investigation to destroy evidence. For the greater good of this country, it's time we show Fox the door.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
17. Sometimes the "nut job" is the voice of reason that no one listens to until it is too late.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
15. We've been in one for at least 50 years
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jun 2018

going back to 1968 and the Nixon campaign's interference with peace talks in Vietnam:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html

The Past 5 GOP Presidents Have Used Fraud and Treason to Steer Themselves to Electoral Victory:

https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/gop-fraud-and-treason



Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
24. Yes we are but I simply do not know what that means anymore.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 07:47 PM
Jun 2018

I mean, what does it mean if nobody does anything about it? Seems like it is just a phrase to me.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
26. Yes
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jun 2018

We have a person as president who is attacking our democracy daily. A person who is using the presidency to enrich himself and his family, attacking our Justice department and destroying Americas position in the world.

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