OK. Now I don't want impeachment. Rock meets Hard Place

[trof]

Yes, nothing would give me more revengeful personal pleasure than booting Donnie Two-Scoops, His Orangeness, out of office and see him do the perp walk in an orange jumpsuit.

But that would only land us with Pope Pence The Pious.
And if he were able to run as the incumbent (post tRump impeachment and conviction) he would come across as a much more 'reasonable' and 'acceptable'(?) candidate.
Oh, and tRump would be a martyr.


So...I'm hoping that Mueller will be able to file criminal charges against Cadet BoneSpurs and bring convictions JUST AT THE END OF HIS TERM.
Timing is everything.

I STILL want to see the mutha do the perp walk.

Just sign me
"Dreamer"

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. I know...it is a terrible position we are in...

the biggest problem is how much damage he will do before his term ends.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. He'll be tainted goods.

His only two choices would either be to pardon a man America knows as a traitor, or sit by while America watches his old boss get prosecuted.

It’s a no win for Pence. Impeach Trump now.

[manor321]

3. No

Pence has absolutely no following. He'd be easy to beat. We'd tie him to Trump. And Trump would be out there tearing the Republican party apart for letting him get impeached.

Impeachment is the correct answer, assuming impeachable offenses are officially reported.

[2naSalit]

14. Impeachment is

not removal from office, that is the next step after the impeachment, doesn't always happen. Impeachment is like censure, identifies a problem with no remedy until the Senate removes the culprit.

[tazkcmo]

4. He's complicit

Pence and a whole slew of traitors are going down.

[2naSalit]

15. +1

[Quemado]

5. Impeaching Trump would, IMO, fire up his base

I don't want his base fired up. I want ours (Democratic) fired up.

Instead of impeachment, indict Trump and make him stand trial. Let all of his dirty laundry hang out to dry and for all to see.

[trof]

6. That's my thinking.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

9. Fuck his GD base..

We HAVE to charge this son of a bitch. Laws apply to all of us. Especially cheaters who don't belong in office.

[2naSalit]

16. Absolutely! ...nt

[FakeNoose]

11. The orange asshole doesn't get to walk away from this

Forget Pence and the base and what-all. Trump must be impeached and he must go to trial and be convicted.

America needs to see this, just like we went through all the Watergate hearings. Our citizens need to see the proof and understand what's happening. Mueller needs to present the case and walk through the evidence, etc. and people need to understand that we have laws, we have a Constitution.

I believe this is just as important for the rightwingers as for Democrats. It all has to come out in the open and we will see him punished for his crimes. If Pence is also guilty, it's another matter and we'll get to him later.

[NCTraveler]

7. Wouldn't you then get Pence for four years?

The election would have happened.

[trof]

10. My dream scenario

tRump get the repug nomination and runs against whoever.
(Yeah, WHO?)

Anyway, tRump loses.
And WHILE HE'S STILL IN OFFICE, but before the inauguration of the new Democratic president, criminal charges are brought, indictments are filed, and now he faces months of trial and eventual conviction.
And jail.

Yeah, it's a fantasy, but it keeps me from foaming at the mouth?

[marble falls]

8. Seriously: Pence is the really truly dangerous and stupider one in a pair of ...

stupid people. Trump's stupid because he's lazy and if it isn't wrapped up around him isn't interested. Pence was born stupid. Hyper-religiosity is one thing, stupid hyper-religiosity is another, and Pence is a one of those anothers. He was a lackluster Governor, he's a useless VP and he'd be a tool (and he is a tool) of other cleverer, more fevered endtiming "Christians"

Rather have cheetolini than the guy waiting for the re-established Zion and the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and the Christ led New Millennium. These people are very wealthy and anxious to be Raptured.

I kinda like the third rock and Pence scares me. I remember the anti-war movement Johnson thru Reagan. Never was scared. Pence scares me. He's just smart enough to badly fuck up.

[JI7]

12. Pence would be forced to actually discuss issues. And his positions are NOT reasonable

They are already destroying civil rights for women and minorities. But none of this is being discussed.

[Raine]

13. I don't either, Pence is every bit if not more

crazy but he comes off as serious and reasonable, a dangerous combination. Plus he realistically could serve part of Trump's term and two of his own.