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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 10:12 PM Jun 2018

The worst part of this political moment, and our response: "The GOP Senate is ILLEGITIMATE!"

The Trump administration is packing appeals and district courts with young, ideologue nominees. They come from the Federalist Society, which for 40 years has been taking money from billionaires to identify pro-corporate, anti-average American lawyers, raise their profiles, and get them judgeships.




"Trump has appointed more judges, more quickly than any President in history.

In 500 days he's named more appellate judges than Obama did in 1000.

Most of them will still be serving in 2050.

And if that's not a reason to fight like crazy to win the Senate this year...."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-one-area-where-trump-has-been-wildly-successful/2017/07/19/56c5c7ee-6be7-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/mcconnell-stole-obamas-court-seats-and-gave-them-to-trump.html
https://thinkprogress.org/james-ho-campaign-finance-hack-70a2ce3477bc/

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But if Russia influenced the presidential election, and intelligence officials like James Clapper say Russia flipped the election -- if Russia influenced the election they also created a GOP senate.

The GOP Senate is illegitimate. The Trump judges are illegitimate.

Say it over and over again.

The GOP Senate is illegitimate. The Trump judges are illegitimate.




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The worst part of this political moment, and our response: "The GOP Senate is ILLEGITIMATE!" (Original Post) sharedvalues Jun 2018 OP
Completely agree. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #1
Hyperbole onenote Jun 2018 #2
Russia likely stole the Senate. Democrats need good messaging. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #3
You're dreaming if you think any judge is getting impeached because he or she onenote Jun 2018 #5
Russia likely stole the Senate. Democrats need good messaging. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #4
Posting the same message twice doesn't make it more convincing. onenote Jun 2018 #6
Toomey and GOP Senate are illegitimate sharedvalues Jun 2018 #7

onenote

(42,714 posts)
2. Hyperbole
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jun 2018

First, you can say what you want. But Trump's presidency is, legally, legitimate. And his nominees for judges etc are legitimate. You can say they're not but it won't change a damn thing.

Second, yes Trump has named a bunch of judges early in his presidency. At the appellate court level he has had 21 nominees confirmed and has another 13 pending. But there are currently no other vacancies for him to fill on the appeals court. And while most of his nominees will be serving for at least 20 years (2038), it's highly unlikely that most will still be on the court in 2050; 11 of the 21 confirmed at this point will be between 85 and 100 in 2050, only 7 will be in their 70s. For comparison's sake, 55 court of appeals spots were filled by Obama.

At the district court level, Trump has filled around 20 spots and has another 70 or so nominees pending out of the 677 authorized judgeships. There are another 50 vacancies. Obama filled 268 district court judgeships.

If, and its a huge if, the Democrats could capture the Senate, they could slow the process of filling vacancies. That's our best bet, not shouting into the void that Trump's appointees are illegitimate.


sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. Russia likely stole the Senate. Democrats need good messaging.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jun 2018

The goal of Russian intervention was to suppress the Democratic vote. This is widely accepted. They worked in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. GOP extremist Pat Toomey won by a small margin. Russ Feingold in Wisconsin lost by a small margin. Several other GOP senators won by small margins in rust belt states.

John Brennan said he believes Russia flipped the election.

Without Russia the GOP would not control the Senate. And there would be a Democratic president.

Democrats are afraid to say that. But it’s a truth they should be repeating.

Because Gorsuch does not deserve his seat and the other judicial appointments do not deserve theirs.

If a wave of popular sentiment rises up, these judges can be impeached.



Re judicial stats: just listen to Ron Klain in the podcast above. Previous presidents had a vetting process, including extremist GWB. This president has handed control to the Fed Society. Meanwhile McConnell has shredded the blue slip rule. And he canceled the August recess so more judges can be approved. This is a smash-and-grab assault on America that we will feel for 50 years.


Illegitimate judges. Impeachment. Impeach the judges once we take control.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
5. You're dreaming if you think any judge is getting impeached because he or she
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jun 2018

was nominated by Trump. Hell, almost all of the District Court judges were confirmed with zero or minimal opposition -- even though most were confirmed this year (after the investigation of Trump had begun).

And exactly when are we going to "take control" to the level where we could impeach and remove a hundred plus members of the judiciary and how do you think the public would react to Congress spending time on that.

Silliness. Pure silliness.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. Russia likely stole the Senate. Democrats need good messaging.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jun 2018

The goal of Russian intervention was to suppress the Democratic vote. This is widely accepted. They worked in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. GOP extremist Pat Toomey won by a small margin. Russ Feingold in Wisconsin lost by a small margin. Several other GOP senators won by small margins in rust belt states.

John Brennan said he believes Russia flipped the election.

Without Russia the GOP would not control the Senate. And there would be a Democratic president.

Democrats are afraid to say that. But it’s a truth they should be repeating.

Because Gorsuch does not deserve his seat and the other judicial appointments do not deserve theirs.

If a wave of popular sentiment rises up, these judges can be impeached.



Re judicial stats: just listen to Ron Klain in the podcast above. Previous presidents had a vetting process, including extremist GWB. This president has handed control to the Fed Society. Meanwhile McConnell has shredded the blue slip rule. And he canceled the August recess so more judges can be approved. This is a smash-and-grab assault on America that we will feel for 50 years.


Illegitimate judges. Impeachment. Impeach the judges once we take control. Impeach.

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