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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums* The Trump Justice Department is trying to kill the pre-existing conditions provisions of the ACA*
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@ASlavitt
BREAKING: The biggest health care news of the year.
The Trump DOJ tonight just told the courts to dismantle pre-existing conditions protections and other consumer protections.
This may seem predictable, but these actions are unprecedented.
More coming. Follow if interested.
6:27 PM - Jun 7, 2018
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ON EDIT- Link to NYT article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/us/politics/trump-affordable-care-act.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region
I believe the Trump Injustice Department dropped this now so it would get lost in the coverage of the G7 meeting and Korean summit.
RandySF
(58,899 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)they didn't understand how congress works and didn't vote ...
Cha
(297,297 posts)on their thumbs than care about giving President Obama support in Congress.
Wonder who pushed that on the airwaves and the net?
Exotica
(1,461 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)not the ACA, with this decision. Gee, I wonder if the suicide rate is going to climb even higher now?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/health/suicide-rates-kate-spade.html
triron
(22,006 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)They're going to be on steroids knowing what the election is most likely bringing them.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)reminds me of Russia.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)shoot us in the head, then tell everyone that Obama did it.
And his base will believe him.
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politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Even the Dotard himself. Why go there when it just gives insurance companies a license to mess with people.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Day passing every nasty, deadly, piece of shit they can dream up.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)Got an adult son who is hospitalized a couple times a year with a chronic illness. Well have to choose between him and us.
God I hope this is stopped.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Almost all of the 17 states listed as intervenor-defendants are blue states.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)BREAKING: The biggest health care news of the year.
The Trump DOJ tonight just told the courts to dismantle pre-existing conditions protections and other consumer protections.
This may seem predictable, but these actions are unprecedented.
More coming. Follow if interested.
Before I get into it, I have to stop and just repeat this another way:
The DOJ, responsible for upholding the rule of law, is not defending the people in a frivolous lawsuit to say that wi5out the mandate, the rest of the ACA cant be enforced. 2/
This collusion between the conservative plaintiffs and the defense would make pre-ex protections and age rating protections unconstitutional.
In an active of savage cynicism, the Trump Administration doesnt want this to go into effect until after the election. 3/
On the phone now with experts. Give me a minute. 4/
I am going got try to cover what happened and what is likely to happen next.
A gift for insurance companies and the infliction of harm on the lives of 130 million Americans w pre ex conditions or older Americans.
So what happened... 5/
Two really destructive instincts have combined: a desire to turn back the ACA and hurt the millions who benefit from it (not through the exchanges but through the protections) AND an unprecedented move by the Justice Dept. not to defend the rule of law in a frivolous case. 6/
FOR AMERICANS WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS: This is game on that the Administration is against you. Same if you ever may get sick.
(Excuse all CAPS for looking like Im yelling. But Im literally in a restaurant in DC and feel like I should probably be yelling.) 7/
Legally, this is the justice department laying down and refusing to do their jobs for political reasons.
Three career Justice Department officials quit the case today, presumably in protest. Amazing.
Unbelievable details c/o @nicholas_bagley 7/
Texas Fold 'Em | Take Care
The Trump administration has asked a district court to wipe much of the ACA from the books, starting in 2019. The brief represents an enormous blow to the integrity of the Justice Department -- and a
https://takecareblog.com/blog/texas-fold-em
So what happens now: it is up to other states (who filed tonight) to do what the Federal government wouldnt and argue on behalf of the public. 8/
Experts tell me the following.
Frivolous lawsuit will attract every conservative lawyer to get this o the Supreme Court.
Even though conservative experts point out how frivolous this is. 9/
There are chances this ends up past the crazy judge who has the case now, the 5th(?) circuit and on the Lap of Chief Justice Roberts.
Only imagine a USOC case with the Solicitor in cohorts with the defendant.
Sound unprecedented? Probably why career lawyers walked out. 10/
This could hit the Supreme Court in 2019 earliest or more likely . . . 2020.
And who knows what the make up of the court is by then? If Trump us a chance to replace a liberal judge, it may even be out of Roberts hands. 11/
More important than ever...
-A loud public outcry
-Educate the public what could happen after the election
-Support for states preventing this
-A Dem Senate for the USOC
-A press and an electorate that makes every R who voted to eliminate the mandate account for this 12/
I will close with this: people who care about public health dont do this. People who care about the rule of law dont do this.
The people responsible must come to regret it when they face the electorate. /end for now Im not going anywhere.
TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I don't think I could loathe these people more.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)And every day they reach new heights of cruel dumbfuckery. I learned never to utter the words, "he can't get any worse than this," because each and every day he outdoes himself from the previous day. It's almost as if he wants to go down in history as the most ignorant and destructive president in U.S. history.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)You are absolutely right. I keep thinking that it can't get worse, but it always does. He has to go one way or another. We won't survive another two years of him let alone another term. We are well on our way to becoming third-world under his rule.