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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:04 PM Jun 2018

Ted Lieu!!!

Dear @realDonaldTrump: Even if we ignored Russia's bad behavior, it doesn't deserve to be in the G-7 because it's not even a top ten economy. Both Brazil & India have far larger economies.

Why didn't you invite them? Is it because they didn't help you win the Electoral College?




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UPDATED TO ADD THIS FROM: Rep John Yarmuth

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Ted Lieu!!! (Original Post) kpete Jun 2018 OP
Ted, you absolutely ROCK! PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #1
I love Ted Lieu! This is another of his tweets from earlier today: fleur-de-lisa Jun 2018 #2
He is so awesome! R B Garr Jun 2018 #3
Great tweet Gothmog Jun 2018 #4
Not to mention PatSeg Jun 2018 #5
So true! Duppers Jun 2018 #7
Given most of the world is not northern european like dump's ancestors erronis Jun 2018 #14
We know his father was a Klansman, and his grandfather a pimp. sandensea Jun 2018 #17
If his grandfather had stayed in Germany PatSeg Jun 2018 #27
Yes PatSeg Jun 2018 #26
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2018 #24
They're $h!thole Countries oswaldactedalone Jun 2018 #6
K & R Duppers Jun 2018 #8
Where does the russian/syrian/israeli conflict play in this n-dimensional chess game? erronis Jun 2018 #9
One can only guess. sandensea Jun 2018 #13
And Jordan and the full range of the eastern Mediterranean. erronis Jun 2018 #16
True. China's being the real adult in the room these days - the role WE would have had under Hillary sandensea Jun 2018 #18
Unfortunately, this is basically a religious war dating to the 7th century. olegramps Jun 2018 #29
Two-fer from Lieu and Yarmuth! Hekate Jun 2018 #10
I like both lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #11
Lieu FTW!!! D_Master81 Jun 2018 #12
Not to mention the world's biggest economy: China. sandensea Jun 2018 #15
fwiw China is still #2, approximately 2/3 the size of ours. shanny Jun 2018 #20
I KNOW we can! The Pentagon alone can't "find" $3 trillion. sandensea Jun 2018 #22
Good one Ted! duforsure Jun 2018 #19
Jaysus H, California is #5, even ahead of the UK. shanny Jun 2018 #21
Yep. I Love Ted Lieu! calimary Jun 2018 #23
And...India got brown people. trof Jun 2018 #25
Ted Lieu and John Yarmuth! Cha Jun 2018 #28

fleur-de-lisa

(14,625 posts)
2. I love Ted Lieu! This is another of his tweets from earlier today:
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jun 2018

Ted Lieu✔ @tedlieu

The Kremlin committed mass murder with the downing of the civilian airliner. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia interfered in American elections.

Now @realDonaldTrump wants to reinstate Russia to G-7.

What exactly does Putin have on Trump?

8:16 AM - Jun 8, 2018


PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
5. Not to mention
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jun 2018

Brazil and India might be a little too "brown" for Trump's taste. There seems to be an element of race in almost anything he does.

erronis

(15,294 posts)
14. Given most of the world is not northern european like dump's ancestors
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jun 2018

He must have a ton of disdain for all of us.

Now to find some lineage that connects him to a swarthy troglodyte!

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
17. We know his father was a Klansman, and his grandfather a pimp.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jun 2018

So who knows what else is in that family tree!

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
27. If his grandfather had stayed in Germany
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jun 2018

or allowed to return, I'm quite sure the "Trumps" would have been good Nazis.

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
26. Yes
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jun 2018

Just look at the marked difference in his reaction to Texas and Puerto Rico during the last hurricane season. He doesn't even try to disguise his inherent racism. He's even talked about his good genes, i.e. German roots. Like so many white supremacists, he has the arrogance, but lacks the superiority.

erronis

(15,294 posts)
9. Where does the russian/syrian/israeli conflict play in this n-dimensional chess game?
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jun 2018

The russians/USSR are supporting Assad and of course Iran.

The US and Israel are supporting each other and wars in other Islamic countries which intersects with Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc.

Underneath, the lines of intrigue and power are much murkier. There are third/fourth party players who will take actions for whoever pays them and has a regular relationship (a $1,000,000 payment for a one-time murder does not establish a trustworthy relationship.)

Throw in the Chinese, the rest of the 5-eyes, the radicals, the anarchists, and the dimensions expand beyond normal human understanding.

However these dimensions are all being mapped by most of the interested parties. You are at one or more of the intersections.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
13. One can only guess.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jun 2018

But we know Bibi wants Syria, and has been trying to curry favor with the (easily-bribed) Trump in order to get us on board. Throw in the Saudis, who hate the Shiite (but secular) Assad regime, and you've got the ISIS/Islamic Army problem.

That puts Cheeto in a pickle, since Putin, as you pointed out, wants the exact opposite: a stabilized Syria under firm Assad control - i.e. the status quo ante (pre-2011).

What's a kleptocrat to do? I suspect Trump's using this opportunity to create a bidding war, selling out U.S. policy (which frankly should be neutral) to the highest bidder:

Which of course means: Whoever gets the Trump family over the $10 billion net worth mark, wins Syria.

erronis

(15,294 posts)
16. And Jordan and the full range of the eastern Mediterranean.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jun 2018

Who knows what winds are filling Erdogan's sails right now. Russians are right next door but I think even the Turks are smart enough not to welcome a bear into their home.

Funny thing - while all this "crusade" era stuff is going on - cowboy style, the Chinese are quietly solidifying real partnerships.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
18. True. China's being the real adult in the room these days - the role WE would have had under Hillary
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:59 PM
Jun 2018

Interesting times, right?

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
29. Unfortunately, this is basically a religious war dating to the 7th century.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 11:46 AM
Jun 2018

The battle lines are drawn between the Sunnis and the Shiites with the Kurds fighting for a homeland that they were promised and screwed out of.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
15. Not to mention the world's biggest economy: China.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jun 2018

How Canada, for all its virtues, is still in the G-7 (other than because both the UK and US like it that way), is beyond me.



The G-7 Summit in Venice, in 1980. So much has changed since then - except the G-7.
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
20. fwiw China is still #2, approximately 2/3 the size of ours.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jun 2018

Don't ever let anybody tell you we can't afford "x".

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
22. I KNOW we can! The Pentagon alone can't "find" $3 trillion.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jun 2018

That's a larger dollar figure than all but four of the world's economies.

The problem, of course, is our dysfunctional government - care of a 50-year corporate effort to discredit, and to a large extent dismantle, our government (except, of course, defense).

As far as China, I was referring to purchasing power parity - i.e. the revised GDP figure for each nation taking into account local costs relative to the U.S. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))

But even then, as the 2nd-largest economy, China should definitely be in the G-7 (and possibly India as well).

I love Canada and Italy - and God knows I wouldn't mind living in either (Umbria!). But so much has changed since the '80s - not least of which, international rankings.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
19. Good one Ted!
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jun 2018

Its all because Putin has stuff on him, and he stands to make money on it in some way. putin is a terrorist, and so is trump. If anything should change, they should kick out the USA as long as he's in office, and be done with him. They'll regret it if they don't.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
21. Jaysus H, California is #5, even ahead of the UK.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jun 2018

Methinks CA should be included in the G-whatevers.

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