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Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo looks at what is happening and says it: Weve Got a Problem. A Big Problem.
...The last twenty four hours of attacks on our closest allies capped by President Trumps seemingly out of the blue demand to bring Russia back into the G-7 (making it again the G-8 which it was for most of the post-Cold War era until Russia was expelled over the annexation of Crimea) simply brings the matter into a newly sharp relief. If candidate Trump and President Putin had made a corrupt bargain which obligated President Trump to destabilize all U.S. security and trade alliances (especially NATO, which has been Russias primary strategic goal for 70 years) and advance the strategic interests of Russia, theres really nothing more remotely realistic he could have done to accomplish that than what he has in fact done.
emphasis added
Marshall discusses some of the implications of this, and looks at possible objections, but he really cant come to any other conclusion.
...Back to the main point. We have a President who clearly got a great deal of assistance from Russia in getting elected. We can argue about how important it was to his victory. But the reality of the help is not in any real dispute. His campaign at a minimum had numerous highly suspicious contacts with people either in the Russian government or acting on behalf of the Russian government while that was happening. That is a very generous interpretation. Hes doing all the stuff hed have been asked to do if such a corrupt bargain had been made. At a certain point and Id say were clearly at or past that point it really doesnt matter whether we can prove such a bargain was made.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/weve-got-a-problem-a-big-problem
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/8/1770374/-Trump-is-Working-for-Putin-Josh-Marshall-Calls-It
underpants
(182,826 posts)It has been but with the last week, and especially today, have cemented it.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)It's right in our face everyday...so much so we sometimes don't even see the forest for the trees. Behavioral conditioning on a National scale...using the trust and faith of Americans and our allies to lull us during the operation.I'm not sure how much more research we need to see it. Now what? Do we start migrating to Washington? What have people done in the past to go to the actual WH and wave a sign etc? The Womens March was huge! AND peaceful. Where did people stay that was a walk away....even a long walk.
Logistically going in and out in buses would be best, but, long term protests may need some room like the Occupy Movement. What should we start contemplating to do?
My gods..
Who picks fights w our allies? Who actively helps throw an American Election?
Who sells America for profit? Who gives family nonsense jobs w all the perks of career employees? Pensions probably. Pay. Security details, travel? LIES ALL THE TIME...and that's no exaggeration...all that and more.
Who does this to such sacred ground as America...let alone the holiest of Holys..the White House?
Only this guy. He's ruined even looking at tvs. So sick of his image and ugly stories to go along with it. EVERY news cycle is about him. When do we start making the news cycle? We stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity and let the globe know that Americans aren't all complicit in injuring everyone. (global warming on top of everything else.) We can walk and sing.
Check your local "Indivisible" and Democratic Party for busses to protests I guess. So shameful.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)pitchforks...
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)the numbers help do the work. We don't need pitchforks. Just standing together. We can cover the whole city. These people are cowans at heart.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)can do the trick, but wasn't it during the March for Life, they don't do numbers of people who attended which is a slap in the face to those who do attend. Nothing like people power. It does work.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)It's OUR house. Just to make that clear. I'm just riffing off the OP.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)They are gaining ground by repeating their lies ad nauseum. It can't help but work in their favor. Mueller needs to move soon, or it won't matter any more.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)if you repeat something 17 times...it's a conditioned stimulus. I have never subscribed to that theory...some stimuli are more profound than others. (A really good message on a sign as opposed to...i dunno..) point being, that's the dogma out there. Media outlets assume after 17 repetitions that you've been trained...I don't know about you, but, the best thing has been to turn stuff off so as NOT to hear it. The powers that be think they have us figured out individually. I think the times have changed and a cold wind is a blowing in this nation. Such a shame. As if the average American doesn't have enough shit to worry about but now we have to somehow unseat a deeply flawed administration. John Kerry and the like...where are you? You probably got cheated too.
As per usual. I dunno...bc I don't. It's f
Friday and I'm pondering along w you guys.
that's coffee.
that's my People.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)to his MO:
Violator of Human Rights
Conspiracy charges against the United States with an evil adversary power. etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. and many more.
Crimes against humanity Puerto Rico.
of course there are more.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)it's the only thing I call him other than just Trump.