"pure poison from Senator Sanders"...

[SidDithers]

Link to tweet

Tom Watson
@tomwatson
Forget the generic poll - with the mid-terms looming, this is pure poison from Senator Sanders, willfully destructive. He just can't stop, even in our existential moment for democracy. #bothparties
https://t.co/LbnPfVJfKk

Watson is right.

Sid

[elleng]

1. Senator Sanders is right.

Sorry you disagree with him, and appear to agree with Tom Watson.

[Wwcd]

8. bernie's banking on every running to his party he's mistaken

He will fail in dividing the Dem Party & he will not win against us.

Guess he'll unite the Greens & Steiners to his camp. He can have them.

His message has been the same since he was a spokeman against the Democratic Party back on his gig at Russia Today.

That's a place that'll surely unite the majority that despise Putin. NOT

He's finally told the truth of his "Money & Media" campaign.
Its nothing we didn't see long ago.

This is exactly what the Koch funded Tea Party did to the once reasonable Republican Party.
He's using the same playbook & I cannot wait for the 1st debate. He better show up.

Glad b finally outed his true mission.
Bye bernie & take Nina with you.

Now Please Leave the Democratic Party of all races, creeds, genders & colors that you hate so much.

We'll win without you just as we proved it in the recent primaries.

[Cha]

104. Well Done, Wwcd!

[jrthin]

118. Excellent! Thank you for saying this. nt

[Wwcd]

123. You are welcome, jrthin

I'm glad he finally decided to reveal his true intent.

At least we no longer have to sidestep around the truth we've always known about his mission.

[NastyRiffraff]

218. Well said, Wwcd

Bernie's finally saying it out loud and showing his true colors. He claims he wants to change the Democratic party for the better; in reality he wants to rule it, or failing that, destroy it.

We're in crisis mode here. We have no time for this dangerous bullshit.

[Wwcd]

219. By design ..while we're swatting at the bug flying in our face, we're not noticing the viper at our

feet.


Ya know NR, how I see it after all this time, it's much like the theives that work in pairs.
One creates the distraction, the chaos, while the other quietly steals your most precious posession.

It is by design. Money & Media & no other clearer way to make a comparison.

[NastyRiffraff]

220. True

And I still think that one of those pair of thieves is Russia based. If not directly then using their useful idiots.

[Maven]

16. Then he should move on and stop purporting to tell the Democratic Party what to do.

He's irrelevant, AFAIC.

[Blue_true]

57. I think recent primary results have shook him up.

Few people that he endorse win unless a mainline democrat also endorse them. He is becoming more irrelevant and he realizes that. So he is using what little relevance he has left to spit at us.

[honest.abe]

20. Technically yes.. but the way he stated it suggests an equivalence of both parties..

and that is not what we need right now.

Sanders needs to pick a team. There are two.

[JCanete]

90. that is true in this instance, but typically he's better at drawing a distinction between parties.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

114. Bernie DID pick a team... read the last sentence of the quote.

[JNelson6563]

31. Not in my corner of the world.

We've got the best candidates we've ever had and turn out for events is very high. Great enthusiasm for Team Blue here in blood red northern MI.

[llmart]

44. Well, that's good to know!

From someone in SE Michigan. I sure hope Dems are out in force in November.

[brush]

38. Well why does he want to run on our ticket?

Talk about being full of it— insinuating there's little difference between Democrats and repugs.

He just can't help himself in taking shots at the Dems, then wants the Dems to let him run under our name (or is it to just use our national party apparatus).

[sprinkleeninow]

197. To whom it may concern:-

I have reached a point in which I am getting fed up with what I'm hearing from him and knowing about him.

💙🇺🇸🌊

[uponit7771]

74. This is false

[Uncle Joe]

98. +1 n/t

[Cha]

102. No, sorry.. BS is Not right.

[Ace Rothstein]

2. Sanders isn't wrong.

Any poll that asks this proves that quote correct.

[honest.abe]

23. But what is the point of attacking Democrats at a time like this??

[SidDithers]

28. +1...

"at a time like this" is the key take-away, for me.



Sid

[Uncle Joe]

96. Because the primaries are running and that's the best time to do it. n/t

[Hortensis]

100. So you think he'll back off his attacks on us in the general?

He'll be satisfied with his current efforts to persuade independents to not vote for Democrats?

You're probably right. Political scientists say people decide who they're going to vote for and not vote for, or not vote at all, months ahead, and that does make this the most fruitful time for throwing elections to the Republicans.

[Uncle Joe]

103. It's too bad the last sentence in the OP wasn't bolded but having told the people the truth

in regards to his record of being an Independent and running against Democrats and people being dissatisfied with both parties, the summation of the plea to join the Democratic Party actually carries more weight with the disenchanted, undecided and/or just leaning Democratic voters.

[Hortensis]

108. It's too bad he didn't lead with that and stop there.

These little ass-covering lines come long after he's already swept up those vulnerable to his subversion. They don't fool anyone, even including his fools who know what he thinks.

"Why?" "Because it's my nature."

[Uncle Joe]

110. No it carries more power that way and this is precisely why Bernie has consistently

been ranked as one of if not the most popular political leaders in the U. S. depending on whose poll you wish to use.

And telling the hard truth is Bernie's nature, that's a good thing and more of it is needed.

[Hortensis]

111. He knows what he's doing. And so do we.

He's very despised, and you're going to be very surprised if you really believe that nonsense about popularity. The Repubs appreciate his services, and that probably pulls up his averages.

[ChrisTee]

121. Bop a person in the nose, then put arm around the shoulders and claim them as an ok guy.

Last edited Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:59 PM - Edit history (1)

As the person stands there with blood gushing out their nose.

See, that does not work for me.

[Demsrule86]

157. Bernie will never be president...and I think he is popular in Vermont. Biden is actually more

popular according to polls...Sen. Sanders endorsements carry little weight. he feels his influence waning...oh he can run as an independent and maybe spoil the general and re-elect Trump if he chooses, but he won't win a Democratic Primary...I hope he doesn't...it would be rather a poisonous legacy. I hope Sen. Sanders will realize that at this moment in history, taking on Trump is the most important thing and go back to the Senate. There is important work there.

[Uncle Joe]

180. To Bernie the most important thing is the cause, movement and progressive policies because

it will not only lift the people up but give them something; a vision to fight for as well as fighting against Trump and the Republicans.

[Demsrule86]

181. I don't buy that...maybe at one time...but he has presidential fever...seen it before. It is

incurable. I would say Biden does too...lots of pols do.

[Hortensis]

205. WE Democrats are fighting for the nation we inherited,

its democratic principles and systems, against the greatest threats to our democracy since the Civil War.

In the middle of this is a small dissident group fighting not to defend our liberal democracy against that enormous existential threat, but fighting the defenders of democracy for power.

This cause that so inspires you is being lead by a dissident populist leader who tried to overset democracy by setting aside the votes of millions of Democrats and having himself appointed our nominee.

A man whose attacks against the Democratic Party are promoted by the Republican Party, right-wing kleptocrat billionaires, the right-wing media, and Russia's kleptocratic authoritarian government.

This populist leader's actions and the kind of people who are promoting him belie the commitment to democracy he and they claim. He already tried to steal an election to put him in power, and both his remnant radical followers and his populist followers supported him in that and still do.

By his actions we know him.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

112. Excellent point.. as usual Uncle Joe!

[R B Garr]

160. That last sentence is not what you claim--he mentioned the

primaries and transforming the Democratic Party, so he’s still sticking with the lies that both parties are the same. He just happens to be here to supposedly save Democrats. People are not stupid. This has gotten way out of hand. Trying to explain away behavior we can see and judge for ourselves is just manipulation. Divisive.

[Uncle Joe]

164. Did Bernie ask his followers or Independents to come over to the Republican Party?

[R B Garr]

168. He is saying that Democrats aren't worth it unless

you “transform” them. It is a very duplicitous statement, starting from a false premise (lie) that both parties are the same and are contemptible. This has gone on long enough.

[Uncle Joe]

171. Bernie wants the Democratic Party to become even more Progressive than it already is,

that no secret to anyone.

Personally I think it's a good and logical idea to recruit new liberals or progressives.

Bernie didn't ask Independents to join the Republican Party because he knows there is no hope for them.

Any and every political party since the dawn of our Republic could've been improved, there is no perfection and never will be.

[ChrisTee]

174. Sanders is not much, if any, more progressive than other Democrats.

No, that is not what Sanders is doing. He believes he and only him is the answer and it just is not true. Why would we want to embrace another egomaniac?

[Uncle Joe]

179. Bernie Sanders votes most often with Senator Maria Cantwell

from the state of Washington.

Bernie Sanders has said repeatedly that "he can't do it alone and that no one could do it alone" and that "real change comes from the ground roots not from the top down and in this he is correct.

[ChrisTee]

183. He can't do what "alone"? We have Democrats more progressive, they too can't "do it alone", either.

No one person can do it alone. Sanders is certainly not the first to come up with starting grass roots and working up. Our party have been saying that forever. Sanders says nothing new here. No great revelation.

[Uncle Joe]

184. He nor I never said he was the first.

[ChrisTee]

188. Wow.

[Uncle Joe]

189. Do yo have a link

to support your "wow" rebuttal?

[R B Garr]

175. It is an absolute lie to say that Republicans and Democrats

are the same. It is a manipulative and self-serving statement meant purely as bait. Look at his last sentence and you’ll see how self-serving it is. The Clintons/Gore were progressive when it was unpopular, they didn’t wait ‘til decades later. He is trying to “transform” and doesn’t care about wins (Google this and you’ll see his own words). You can’t transform if you don’t win. His ideas aren’t even reality in his home state, but he offers no explanation for that and just blames Democrats for having his same success record in their states.

[Uncle Joe]

178. Bernie didn't say they were the same he cited factual polling

more people in the United States indentify as Independents rather that Democratic Public?

He said that there wasn't a lot love for either party and that many people are discouraged, this is also true as the polls and our nation's relatively low voter turnout is also evidence of.

Bernie then states that he understands how they feel (he empathizes with their concerns) as his Independent political career is a testament to, anyone in sales would tell you this is 101 in selling or moving a product.

Now I suppose one could ignore these disaffected Americans never speak or listen to them but I don't believe that's logical nor patriotic.

He asks Independents to join the Democratic Party, and that's a bad thing because.. uh....?

[ChrisTee]

185. Sanders has said more than once, over his history, that both parties are the same. Yes, he has.

[Uncle Joe]

186. Do have a link to such a charge?

[ChrisTee]

190. Lol.

[Uncle Joe]

191. That's what I thought.

[ChrisTee]

192. I learned long ago, supporters that pretend not to know basics are a waste of time.

If you are going to challenge Sanders many times saying both parties are alike, then that pretty much tells me it is a waste of time reading anything you have to say.

[Uncle Joe]

193. Well then that should give you plenty of material to pull from?

[R B Garr]

195. He is just using "generic polling" as an excuse to continue

the lie that both parties are the same. His last sentence says nothing about joining the party. He complains about running against Democrats and urges so-called Independents to run against Democrats in the name of “transforming”.

The Tweet was distributed for a reason, calling his tactic “pure poison”. Not fooling anyone, sorry.

[Demsrule86]

170. I think he is wrong...and will be glad when he realizes, he will not be president.

But he has a fine career in the Senate.

[stonecutter357]

3. K&R !

[Greybnk48]

4. Sanders is right n/t

[PSPS]

13. LOL. Yes, those fabled "record negatives!!111!!1!"

[populistdriven]

19. SANDERS IS ASKING FOR INDEPENDENTS TO JOIN DEMOCRATS!!! OP is MISLEADING

[NCTraveler]

24. Billions of dollars spent over decades will do that to you.

It’s what happens when you are in the fight. Sitting on the sidelines as an entrenched career politician will often do the opposite. You can become popular but you have little impact over a career.

[BumRushDaShow]

43. You changed your post of Gallup's "unfavorables" for Hillary I see...

The same Gallup that produced this fuck up - http://news.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx

And no, the OP is not "misleading".

[LisaM]

48. Actually, he didn't say JOIN. He said TRANSFORM.

He wants independents to come into the Democratic primaries. He's always wanted this. He didn't say anything about their becoming Democrats.

[Cha]

97. No, your statement is Misleading!

"transform".

we're doing just fine without BS and his transformers.

[Demsrule86]

159. An vote for him...independents can't vote in the Democratic primary except in open

primaries...he knows Dems are not going to vote for him in great numbers...so he is appealing to the independents.

[George II]

213. No he's not. He's asking Independents to VOTE in Democratic primaries, not join the Party, and....

....he's actually urging Independents to change the Democratic Party, not join it.

Big difference.

[NurseJackie]

6. Watson is correct! Sanders' contempt for Democrats and the Democratic party do not "help" Democrats.

Watson is correct! Sanders' contempt for Democrats and the Democratic party do not "help" Democrats. It's not an "intervention". It's not "guidance".

this is pure poison from Senator Sanders, willfully destructive.

Indeed it is! That kind of talk coming from him benefits ONLY Sanders. It does absolutely nothing to strengthen the Democratic party. It does absolutely nothing to bring new members and voters into the Democratic party.

If anything, his continued smears and toxic rhetoric that denigrates Democrats only serves to divide and weaken the party. It creates distrust and drives away voters.

All I'm trying to say here is that Sanders is definitely NOT "transforming" the Democratic party. It's certainly not very convincing for someone to say "I hate the Democratic party soooo much that I refuse to be a Democrat... but hey!... vote for Democrats... or something."

[NCTraveler]

26. +1 It became clear immediately after his national ass kicking.

Some people are simply sore losers. Bound to happen with an ego like his.

[hueymahl]

7. Watson has it wrong

Appealing solely to the base is not the answer. Being a party loyalist who does not acknowedge that people are independent for a reason is not the answer. Expanding the tent while being true to your core principles is the answer, and doing anything else is the true definition of "pure poison." Or maybe the definition of shooting yourself in the foot.

What I would really like to see is all of the excuse makers for the Democratic Party actually be just a little practical. Support any candidate that will win, even if they don't pass your particular purity test.

[Wwcd]

10. Yet here's Sanders asking for loyalists to his Indy Party.

While damning loyalists of the other Parties.

Figures.

[hueymahl]

34. Where are you getting that from?

It is certainly not from the quote in the OP. In fact, it is the opposite. He is encouraging independents to come into the Democratic Party.

[LisaM]

51. That is not how I read it. He wants the Democratic party to let Independents

vote in our primaries.

[JCanete]

91. he wants to bring in progressive independents to the democratic party.

[LuvLoogie]

109. When he says to independents, "Register as Democrats." He'll have more credibility.

I don't buy Bernie's spiel anymore. Henry Gonzalez did it better and was a true Democrat. Bernie has a blind spot that is filled with his own image.

[fleabiscuit]

201. + a couple of thousands

[brer cat]

55. I would say that describing

the most loyal members of the base of the party as a "distraction" is the true definition of "pure poison" and blindly following someone who has no demonstrated record of success is the definition of "shooting yourself in the foot."

It isn't possible to both be true to our core principles and embrace someone who wants to destroy our party.

[sheshe2]

67. +++

[Cha]

99. Well said, brer!

How dare he call us and POC a "distraction".

[Garrett78]

84. "...people are independent for a reason," but not the reason you may think.

See here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210710788

[Demsrule86]

161. You can't cure stupid...if people don't know that the only way to stop the GOP is to support

Democrats...become a Democrats...than screw them. And based on the specials and Virginia...we are doing fine.

[empedocles]

9. hmmmm

[mercuryblues]

11. more about those numbers

Independents outnumber either Democrats or Republicans. A Pew Research Center analysis that examined partisan affiliation from 1992 to 2014 found that, in 2014, 39% of the public identified as independents, which was larger than the shares calling themselves Democrats (32%) or Republicans (23%). In 2004, roughly equal shares identified as Democrats (33%), independents (30%) and Republicans (29%).


However, most independents express a partisan leaning: In 2014, 17% of the public leaned toward the Democratic Party while 16% leaned toward the GOP; just 6% declined to lean toward a party. When the partisan leanings of independents were taken into account, 48% either identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic; 39% identified as Republicans or leaned Republican.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/05/5-facts-about-americas-political-independents/

[seaglass]

81. Yes, this is or should be known. Only about 10% of Independent voters do not vote along

party lines.

Bernie needs to catch up.

[R B Garr]

12. Tom Watson is right. There is no reason for this divisiveness,

except as a way to stay relevant after the ballot box showed how irrelevant his revolution actually is with actual voters. It is a very out of touch statement, but not surprising.

[Cha]

116. Yeah, wants to stay relevant after all

our Democratic WINS!

[ProudLib72]

30. Here's a question for your consideration

If BS was a member on DU, would he be allowed to do so or would he be banned?

[Cha]

101. Good question.

[Tom Rinaldo]

33. Nonsense. OK, your subject line can be debated...

We disagree on that but it's a fair debate. The text of your post is nonsense. There are millions of people like me who don't fit your description, how many million I suppose is also debatable, but regardless it refutes your contention . And it is an insult to a lot of Democrats like me to slander us that way. I don't go picking disunity fights on DU but I'm disinclined to serve as a punching bag.

[NCTraveler]

37. I don't think it does refute my contention.

Out of those millions, how many would guarantee him a primary vote right now?

Those are the supporters I’m talking about. The ones who define themselves as Sanders supporters.

[Tom Rinaldo]

59. He had 13 million primary votes

Plus, as is always the case, only a relatively small minority of potential voters actually show up on primary day. So Sanders, just like Clinton and any other primary candidate, actually had more voters sympathetic to him than just the number that actually voted. Most of that support did not simply vanish.

Your contention was absolutist, and hence, nonsense in that you presume all remaining Sanders supporters are slavishly loyal to him as cultists or something to that effect (I don't have your original wording in front of me). I know dozens of people personally in my daily world who voted for Sanders, don't think he's God, and who still like and respect him though they may or may not back him as their first choice in 2020.

Some of us like that Sanders pounds on certain core issues and find that overall constructive. We may or may not campaign for him in 2020. Does that make us "supporters" in your book? I can't define your terms for you, but your initial comments seemed like a smear toward someone like me. That's what I'm saying. There are many important things we can debate about the role Sanders plays in politics but I simply don't have time to now. This is an incredibly busy week for me. Next week should be more open.

[Demsrule86]

163. That was then and this is now...and it wasn't even close...The nominee with the most

votes became the candidate...I was one of those voters in the primary as were my kids (Sanders) and I regret it. I voted in Ohio. I would never do it again nor will any of my four kids...he has lost support. You can see it in the failure of his endorsements.

[Devil Child]

76. Thats a mighty broad brush you are wielding

[Maven]

15. Bernie is electoral poison. Everyone he endorses is a flop at the polls.

His tired BOTH SIDES!!!!!11!! gadfly act is playing to an ever-dwindling audience. Perhaps he should go take up knitting.

[Lordquinton]

22. He did endorse Hillary

So...

[Maven]

52. Yes but only begrudgingly

Must be why she won the popular vote.

[Squinch]

106. A day late and a dollar short.

[mcar]

17. This is complete nonsense, Senator Sanders

Shame on you.

[Snackshack]

18. Sen. Sanders is 100% right.

People are not very enamored with either party right now. Republicans have gone right off the deep end with trump and Democrats seem to be voiceless.

If Senator Sanders said “You know it is pretty hot in Arizona in the summer” people would find something wrong in his comment.

[honest.abe]

21. Voiceless to those with earplugs.

[MrsCoffee]

25. Only because he is likely to follow up with

"Democrats are doing nothing to stop the sun".

[tecelote]

35. "People are not very enamored with either party right now."

Exactly.

We can't win without Independents siding with us.

[Cha]

142. That's not true.. We're out there Winning Elections and

BS is trying to dampen the Democratic Party.

Anyone who thinks Democrats are voiceless hasn't been paying attention.

If BS said something decent I would support him.. but all he has is divisiveness.

[Demsrule86]

165. Yawn...well I hope he doesn't run...it could be embarrassing.

[MrPool]

176. Actually if he said

"I will release 10 years of my taxes and will reveal the real reason I hired Tad Devine" I would find nothing wrong with that.

[Progressive dog]

27. So Sen Sanders thinks

the people that don't like either the Democratic or Republican parties don't differ from each other in political belief. Then he makes the outrageous suggestion that they all must agree with him.
The basic concept of independent voter seems to be beyond his understanding.

[Mr.Bill]

29. California officially now has more independants

than Republicans, and we are going to elect a Democratic Governor by a landslide.

[appalachiablue]

32. What was he replying to? I'm blocked by a WaPo paywall, tx.

[Brother Buzz]

41. Pro tip:

Hit 'Stop loading'/'X' when the story first appears and you can read it. Sometimes the images get corrupted, but that's a burden us non paying freeloaders have to bear.

The whole article was about why Bernie Sanders refuses to join the Democratic Party.

[appalachiablue]

45. I'll give it a try, thanks.

[brush]

119. Also try opening the story with the Google Chrome browser.

[appalachiablue]

206. Thank you, I had Chrome for a while & might check it out again.

[Fullduplexxx]

36. Time for bernie to have a hot cup of stfu till after the election

"Trump calls children's health care 'wasteful' as GOP votes to slash it"

[mudstump]

39. Senator Sanders is right on....

He's telling the truth.

[AtomicKitten]

47. Yes he is, but the truth is unpalatable for some.

[basta]

54. yes he is...

being new here it amazes me that some of you are so against sanders and twist his words to match your own agendas, if you read the small sample quote he is saying I's should vote D's.

please get over hrc's loss and focus on the midterms, always pulling sanders down turns ALLOT of us D's off...

[Me.]

61. Wow

[basta]

63. sorry Me. but you laughing through an "emoji" is rather pathetic... here is my reply

to your sophomorish reply

[Me.]

64. Sophmorish Is A Newbie Coming On Here

Thinking to criticise those who have issues with BS despite the fact that he continues to stomp all over Dems while wanting their money and influence. And basta to you.

[basta]

66. Read the quote

he is asking for independent voters to join the democratic party.

and as a "newbie" somehow your opinion is greater than others? that is in and of itself is enough to think you use the fact that you discovered du before others as a tool to divide, not a value any D should support...

[Me.]

70. What Utter Nonsense

if you want to know the truth read this and stop with the faux challenges, been so done before. And just so you know this is not OR.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210710788

[basta]

78. Faux challenges?

listen Me. I am not challenging anyone, just calling out the frat boy esq "I've been here longer so my opinion is better than yours is" is bs.

and I reiterate more people voting for D's is good, regardless of their current identification.

good day and best regards

[Me.]

140. Oh Dear, Oh Dear

you seem to have a frat boy obsession

[Me.]

209. So Tiresome, You Have No Idea

[dansolo]

131. He is talking about candidates, not voters

He is only talking about getting Independants to run as Democrats. Nowhere does he ask independant voters to vote for Democrats.

[Squinch]

129. Looks like you've caught one. I'll get the net.

[ehrnst]

214. Your replies didn't work out too well, did they?

[Cha]

115. This has nothing to do with Hillary.. this is all about BS 2018.

Always divisive.

[Me.]

139. Quite!

Don't you just love the scolds by BS supporters, especially the NEW ones who find their way here?

[Cha]

143. They stick up for the Divisiveness

that BS is creating when we are out there Winning Elections to fight the Fascists.. that were Rigged into Power by the Russians, and those who enabled them.

Me

[Me.]

158. Yes Ma'am

[Cha]

162. And, accuse others of

being divisive when we don't roll over.

[Me.]

182. How Right You Are

[Cha]

117. Baloney.

[msongs]

40. one notices sanders refuses to take his own advice and come into the dems party nt

[SidDithers]

49. Nailed it...

Sid

[Eko]

42. I think at this point we can all agree that anyone not voting for the Democratic party

at least until Trump is out can safely be considered a political idiot, at best. So, here is Sanders, telling political idiots (at best) to join the Democratic party and we will transform it. Implying that they will change it to something different that they ,political idiots (at best) like. It is extremely clear, extremely clear that Sanders is a populist that wants to take over our party and change it to what he feels it should be like. And he is not above using political idiots (at best) to achieve it.

[JI7]

46. Sanders wanted to Primary Obama do this should not be a surprise

[NY_20th]

50. So far 2018 has shown record numbers of women and millenials

dominating the primaries.

I think it's safe to say that they are not only fired up and ready to go, they also are quite aware of which party serves their interests.

Who are these people that in the age of Trump still can't differentiate the difference?

[JI7]

53. Most of those he supported got even less support

So when assuming there were people out there looking for something else why would he think it's him ?

[pecosbob]

56. All I have to say is vote progressive

[Demsrule86]

172. All I have to say is vote Democratic...there fixed it.

[Me.]

58. What I've Always Noticed About The Senator

is how his initials, BS, correspond to what he is full of.

[Dennis Donovan]

60. Keep hippie-punching...

...and we won't win shit in November.

[Adrahil]

68. Well, if the hippies punch first....

I mean, it's true. Sanders can;t stop himself from attacking the Democratic party. He doesn't get a pass.

[Cha]

146. Right.. BS is the one who's doing the "Punching".. you'd

think they could see that.

[BannonsLiver]

133. Agreed.

Bernie must never be critiqued. Ever. But if he is we can just call it hippie punching.

[Cha]

144. BS is the one who is Punching.. wake up to that, Dennis.

He doesn't get to keep trying to Divide us.. and not expect pushback.

[NurseJackie]

150. ...

[Demsrule86]

166. There are no hippies and no revolution either.

[PaulX2]

62. Thank You Bernie For Telling The Truth

Millions of Obama voters voted for Trump. They aren't racists, but they are easily fooled. We have to show those people we are on their side with every action. We need to fight for them harder than the Republicans fight for the wealthy.


Anyone with half a brain knows Democrats fight for the struggling, but Bernie is talking about the ones not smart enough to know who is on their side.

If I listed the problems I have with "my" party, I lose my account.

I would rather have a positive message.

Take on Wall Street, and prosecute the crooks that have all the bacon.

Start with calling for Kushner's prosecution. Laundering Russian money.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/8/1770447/-Kushner-and-Cohen-Friends-with-benefits

The list goes on....

[Cha]

145. NO Thanks to BS for anything.. he's always trying to divide

while our Democratic Party is out there winning elections, to fight the Fascists in Power.

[Demsrule86]

169. We elect Democrats here...so having problems with the 'party' why are you here?

No offense intended...Personally, I have problems with Republicans and support and like the Democratic Party. I am proud to be a Democrat...I feel sad for you. I voted for Sen.Sanders in Ohio in the primary. I would never vote for him again in any primary.

[LostOne4Ever]

65. The only poison here being given out by the Bernie haters

What he said is 100% fact.

When you start thinking that stating facts is bad then who have become to ideology.

[PubliusEnigma]

69. Trump will bankroll Bernie's 2020 campaign if he can.

[seaglass]

71. Bernie, wake up!

More people in MA have been registered unenrolled than either of the 2 major parties since 1990.

AND MA DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU BERNIE - so what's your point?

[Cha]

222. Yeah, what is his point? Thanks for those

stats, seaglass.

[Cha]

72. Pure FICtION, too. Has BS paid attention at all

to who's Winning ELECTIONS?!!!!

And, I know he can't stop.

Thanks, Sid

[jalan48]

73. Voters see through the whole cheerleader routine.

[uponit7771]

75. We see through the whole Dallas equivalence bullshit too

[honest.abe]

77. Bernie seems oblivious to the crisis this country is in now.

We have a lunatic in the White House who aspires to be a dictator. We have a good chance to stop the madman and his Republican enablers this November if we can unite the Democrats and Progressives to vote against the GOP. That is what he should be doing instead of bashing the Democratic party.

[Ferrets are Cool]

79. Who the fuck is Tom Watson and why should I care what he says?

How dense do you have to be to not understand "I want you, as independents, to come into the Democratic primaries and transform the Democratic party. He is asking all independents to vote for a Democrat in November. How ELSE can you take that? Shitfire. Talk about trying to stir up a shitstorm.

[lapucelle]

94. BS is asking people to vote in the primaries

for independents who are running against Democrats. There is is no call for voters to participate in the GE in November.

"I am an independent. … I have had to run against Democrats. But I want you, as independents, to come into the Democratic primaries and transform the Democratic party."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/06/07/daily-202-why-bernie-sanders-won-t-join-the-democratic-party/5b18850d30fb04775d88138c/?utm_term=.228ec9c0ca5d

[Ferrets are Cool]

125. I still don't know who Tom Watson is.

[Cha]

147. Tom Watson is a reality based Democrat whom

I respect.

[Gore1FL]

80. Give me a swallow of that poison.

I like a growing rather than a shrinking Democratic Party. I hope we can become the party we were pre-Reagan. If that takes influence from those our party has cast off for 40 years, then good.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

113. Me too!

[brush]

122. Why doesn't he just say "vote for Democrats"?

No, he says come into the Democratic primaries and "transform" the party.

We are not fooled. We get the double meaning there.

And why won't he join the Democratic Party instead of trying to run the party as an outsider?

Join the party, Sanders, and send a clear message—vote for Democrats, not this vague bullshit about "transforming" the party.

Time to send 100% clear messages with this would-be dictator in the WH who is openly rooting for Putin.

[ismnotwasm]

82. Yup

The whole continuing sage of “they’re both the same bullshit” sounds like damage control from a failed “revolution” some members of which should have very guilty consciences instead of doubling down. A movement that was mostly for white people anyway.

Democrats have had their own come to Jesus moments after Trump, many of them...but they’ve done that despite Bernie Sanders, not because of him, his “movement” or whatever political party he chooses to align himself with.

Bernie...He’s a popular guy with a lot of people. Sure. But not nearly enough people and certainly not with the diversity we need. The Democratic Party does have that. The Democratic Party platform does have that. Elected Democrats are working their asses off to fight what’s happening right here, right now in real time. Thank God for Democrats I say. Thank God for the Democratic Party.

[Gothmog]

83. I was so glad when the Our Revolution candidates in Texas were defeated

[SidDithers]

85. Thanks for the kick after the appeal was approved...

Sid

[R B Garr]

87. Wonderful! We need to see the attacks on our party.

Great thread.

[NurseJackie]

88. Recommended!

[Tarheel_Dem]

155. Kick again!

[Gothmog]

194. You are welcomed

[Demsrule86]

173. Me too...a real ass kicking ...so satifying as I hate Nina Turner who hates Democrats and has

offered to endorse Republicans.

[Gothmog]

207. We had the head of Our Revolution telling voters that an Asian candidate was "not one of us"

[Demsrule86]

215. Wow, I had not heard that.

[Gothmog]

216. Sri Preston Kulkarni was attacked by the local Our Revolution but won

Link to tweet

OR rejected a candidate because he was Asian and had a funny first name http://www.indoamerican-news.com/local-democrats-infighting-attempts-to-smear-sri-kulkarni/

Like many other youngsters going through their tumultuous teen years, Kulkarni attributed the episode to youthful indiscretion, similar to what George W. Bush, Barak Obama and Bill Clinton experienced in their youths.

But Beaton, who is backing candidate Steve Brown in the primary, is throwing out all sorts of minor issues to sideline Kulkarni’s bid. He has challenged Kulkarni’s full name, his residency in the district, his voting record and even his registration application saying he wanted to run in Massachusetts.

Inspite of these diversions, the Indian American community as well as the rest of the South And East Asian communities are staunchly behind Kulkarni and they have shown it by the sheer numbers who have come to his events and are donating funds to his campaign, sensing a chance to have an Asian in Congress from the Metroplex. They came together last night, Tuesday, February 20, at Madras Pavlion to rally behind Kulkarni and push back against these charges.

Encouraged, Kulkarni is counting on their support. “We’re pushing back against this stigmatization and slander,” Kulkarni said. “The Asian communities need to come out and vote to get us over the top in the primary.”

From another article http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/texas-congressional-candidate-sri-kulkarni-acknowledges-teen-drug-arrest-youthful/article_54a39be6-1e55-11e8-8db1-6f520552146f.html

Doug Beaton, the leader of the chapter, warned Fort Bend County Democratic officials on Kulkarni's previously undisclosed past in a letter posted on social media, it said.

The letter suggested that Kulkarni, whose full first name is Srinivas, is running under an assumed name and that he had previously registered with the Federal Election Commission to run for a congressional seat in Massachusetts.,,,,

Fort Bend County's past Democratic chair, Don Bankston, a member of the party's state executive committee, said the attack on Kulkarni is off base and potentially slanderous, according to the report.

The head of the Our Revolution group told voters that Sri is "not one of us" and we do not want "one of them on the ballot." As noted above, these Our Revolution attacks failed.

I doubt that anyone will be taking Our Revolution seriously in Texas for a while.

[Demsrule86]

217. I can't believe this...

'The head of the Our Revolution group told voters that Sri is "not one of us" and we do not want "one of them on the ballot." As noted above, these Our Revolution attacks failed. I doubt that anyone will be taking Our Revolution seriously in Texas for a while.'

OR is worse than I thought...which is saying something

[Gothmog]

221. Yep

This group is pretty worthless

[ismnotwasm]

86. K&R

[sheshe2]

89. Kicking!

[Cha]

92. Sure..

why not!

[sheshe2]

126. !!!!!

[lapucelle]

93. K&R

[Hortensis]

95. "Why?" "Because it's my nature."

[Squinch]

107. Is JPR on vacation this weekend or something? Or has it just become so boring that they

all re-upped here?

Our country is collapsing around us, and all everyone is talking about is a failed candidate from the last election.

[BannonsLiver]

130. My take: Its the beginning of the summer offensive.

Mix of JPR folks and “other” foreign entities, along with a bunch of people who haven’t learned a whole helluva lot since January 20, 2017.

[Squinch]

132. You're probably right. And they're so slick that all of them showed up at the same time. Stealthy!

[mcar]

211. This

[emulatorloo]

167. It is odd when "new members" seem to know so much DU history, isn't it?

[jrthin]

120. Before Bernie mouths off, maybe he should first release his taxes. NT

[ChrisTee]

124. No half way intelligent person would suggest both parties are the same, after what we have seen the

last couple years. If at this point, anyone is arguing both party is the same, it clearly shows their dishonesty.

[NurseJackie]

134. Dishonesty indeed! Anyone who claims that is a liar and can't be trusted

[ehrnst]

127. K&R

[Raine]

128. Same old, same old

continual crapping on Bernie...

[NurseJackie]

135. Aw.

[Cha]

149. I know.. same ol thing.. BS bashes the Democratic Party

and it's poor him who is being picked on.

We're suppose to play dead.

[Fresh_Start]

138. Bernie dishes the crap on the democratic party and 99% of the USA

if you are okay with Bernie dishing crap...you have no right to complain about other people doing the same to bernie

[Cha]

151. Yeah!

[Cha]

148. Hey Raine.. wake up to the fact that when BS starts

his bashing on the Democratic Party.. we're not going to roll over and play dead.

[kcr]

199. Yep. His bullshit won't be tolerated again.

The prospect of looking at 4 more years of Trump is going to knock the wind out of his sails. I think the fact that so many people thought Hillary was safe gave him cover in 2016.

[Cha]

200. Good point, kcr.. yeah in 2018..

no more.

[aikoaiko]

136. Poison? Or maybe the cure, Tom Watson.

[Fresh_Start]

137. when historians write about sen sanders

they will identify him as another tool in putins arsenal against the USA and American democracy.

He will not be a great progressive leader.
He doesn't have it in him to be anything else no more than Trump has it in himself to be more than trump is.

[stevenleser]

156. Agreed nt

[kcr]

198. Agreed n/t

[betsuni]

141. K&R

[Demsrule86]

152. I have no love for you Sen. Sanders and just want you to go away...

Go back to the Senate and leave us alone. You will never be president. Now if you believe one word you have been saying all these years, you will take on Trump and the GOP ...not the Democrat Party.

[RandySF]

153. K&R

[guillaumeb]

154. Pure nonsense.

But it is a constant theme.

[liberal N proud]

177. Obviously BS does not love his country

So willing to destroy it by dividing the only chance to challenge the republicans

[Gothmog]

196. Politico- DNC rule change angers Sanders supporters

This is an interesting article https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/08/dnc-rule-change-sanders-supporters-634998

Democratic National Committee officials on Friday moved forward with a proposal to force the party’s presidential candidates to identify as Democrats, a move that drew immediate criticism from a top official in Bernie Sanders’ 2016 campaign.

The prospective rule change, approved by the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, would not necessarily impact Sanders, the independent Vermont senator who ran for president as a Democrat.

Sources familiar with the discussion said officials believed the rule change could help garner support for a separate bid to reduce the influence of superdelegates in the party’s presidential nomination process — a priority of Sanders’ supporters after the 2016 election. Both proposals are scheduled to be considered by the full DNC in August.

[dalton99a]

202. Kick

[fleabiscuit]

203. In nature there is a large and diverse group of carrion eaters.

It’s an important process but one I don’t savor watching play out.

I will stick with Democrats.

[AlexSFCA]

204. his toxic populism is damaging

his anti-establishment speeches are remarkably similar to trump’s. He doesn’t care about Russia, he voted against sanctions. His campaign became a tool of russian intelligence to divide dems. Taking on establishment for sake of it ‘to shake things up’ even if new candidates are much less experienced and knowledgeble than incumbents. I am glad Feinstein won primary, she has seniority in key senate committees and more than ever we need experts in congress.

[mcar]

212. A welcome back kick!

[SidDithers]

223. Thanks....nt

Sid