Just listening to CNN ...

[NanceGreggs]

… where they’re discussing Trump’s proposal that Russia be readmitted to the G-7.

Everyone is asking why would he do so. Journalists who have spoken to WH staffers report that this proposal was never discussed; this policy was never debated nor its consequences analyzed. It came as a shocking surprise to everyone.

And yet they’re all asking why Trump would make such a statement.

Isn’t it FUCKING OBVIOUS by now? Trump is Putin’s bitch, that’s why.

There has been nothing that Trump has done since taking office that hasn’t been exactly what Vlad wants done.

Jesus Hussein Christ, people – are you really THAT fuckin’ blind?

[sheshe2]

1. Trump is our acting 'Resident.

Putin IS our 'President.

[spanone]

2. thinking the exact same thing

Day 500 +. WTF?

same at msnbc

[peggysue2]

3. They cannot admit to themselves that they . . .

gave The Traitor & Mobster the Keys to the Kingdom because . . . he was great TV. They are willfully blind, methinks.

Never forget, never forgive!!

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. Ding Ding. You nailed that one.

[Amaryllis]

31. He is still great TV. Where else can you get this kind of drama?

[Boomerproud]

48. He's a freak show-with consequences we haven't even thought of yet.

[uponit7771]

32. +1

[eleny]

4. Just who the hell was shocked?

Honestly, if people aren't ready for anything from that guy - well, the very idea of that leaves me without words.

[Mr. Ected]

5. Instead of registering their shock, why don't they express their outrage?

Always tip-toeing around the chalk outline of a murdered corpse and wondering why they used yellow chalk instead of white.

[BadgerMom]

18. THIS!

[AdamGG]

39. Because they'd rather assemble a panel of people with opposing positions on everything

It's not journalism, it's infotainment with the emphasis on tainment.

[luvtheGWN]

63. Remember how long it took for the media to actually state that

Trump lies?

I suspect that they are all well aware of the fact that every time Dolt45 opens his trap and says something that (to them and to us) sounds traitorous, they're nervous about calling it that. They're waiting for Mueller et al to show absolute proof. And I'm sure they're as anxious as we all are for that proof to be out in public. And then, Donnie, you will be up shit's creek without a paddle. I can't believe that his supporters will continue kissing his rump when they find out he is totally beholden to Mother Russia -- and that includes Faux Noise. Already there are some there who are desperately trying to distance themselves because it's becoming more and more clear that Donnie is indeed a Russian asset. If they are at all knowledgeable about Putin then they cannot help but view every statement Donnie makes -- especially this last one about Russia rejoining the Group of 7 -- as the strongest piece of evidence.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

71. Three types of journalism in America today

- truth seeking journalism (WaPo, New Yorker, Vox, TPM, John Oliver, most ondividual journalists)
- profit-first infotainment (CNN, MSNBC, most tv news)
- Republican propaganda media (Fox Limbaugh WSJ etc)





I think this is useful classification- thoughts?

[AdamGG]

73. The frightening thing is the degree to which people on the right dismiss NYT, WashPo &truthful media

Like 1/3 of the population has been convinced that actual fact checked journalism is biased, leftist propaganda.

The big lie wasn't Fox saying for decades that it was "fair and balanced". Everyone could tell that they said that with a wink and a nod and that they're partisan. But, where they really succeeded was in convincing a wide swath of the population that the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times and actual truth seeking journalism is equally as biased as them, but from the left.

Part of the reason that Trump has succeeded is that 40% of the population has been conditioned to discount reality. Trump crudely slams it home by calling it fake news, but the groundwork has been laid for him for 30 years.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

74. That's why "truth-seeking" is important to say

I totally agree with you- GOP propaganda media made this bed. (In addition, they created trump by preparing a racist base with dogwhistles, just waiting for a demogogue to appeal to them with direct racism. But that’s another story.)


By repeating “truth-seeking” or “truthful” media we can take back the media - slowly, but steadily. #ProtectTheTruth - promote truth-seeking media!

[Volaris]

40. Because the corpse that's laying there isn't a J. Doe, it's Journalistic Integrity.

That corpse is there because it's lifeblood is adversarial, and they replaced it with the Delicious Slurpee of Fair and Balanced, flavored with Profit Syrup.
And they damn well know it.

[True Blue American]

57. Thank you for that post!

[Volaris]

59. ) You're welcome?

I mean,...it's just a post; it doesn't mean I like, LIKE you or anything (not that I don't like you, I do...I was gonna ask u if you wanted to go to the dance with me but I didn't think liked ME like that and if you don't that's OK it's just a buncha dumb 'cool kids' so I didn't really wanna go anyway and and...)



Happy Weekend, True Blue!

[oberliner]

7. Wouldn't he want to be more subtle if that was the case?

Would he really be that obvious about it?

[uppityperson]

11. Trump? Subtle?

[oberliner]

12. Just a little?

[uppityperson]

38. No

[BobTheSubgenius]

56. On his stealthiest day, he's as subtle as a bar fight.

His style is all nuance....if nuance is the butt of a pool cue being broken over your knee.

[olegramps]

69. Of a huge puss flowing zit on Home Coming Queen's nose on Prom Night.

[NanceGreggs]

21. Where have you been?

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Since when has Spanky been "subtle" about anything?

He's been blatantly obvious about everything - distancing us from our allies, insulting them while praising Putin, refusing to implement sanctions against Russia, pulling out of the Paris Accord, demeaning the work of NATO and the UN, sowing division among citizens, insisting that our government agencies are corrupt, installing incompetent cronies in cabinet positions who are now literally destroying them from within, calling Russian interference in our elections a "hoax" that requires no investigation - need I go on?

Where was the "subtlety" in literally disclosing highly classified information to the Russians while meeting with them in a closed-door meeting RIGHT IN THE OVAL OFFICE?

"Wouldn't he want to be more subtle if that was the case?"

Surely you jest.

[oberliner]

27. Yeah, you're right

One would think that he would not be so dumb as to be this completely blatant and obvious about it, but, I guess he is.

[AdamGG]

41. The approach has gotten him this far, what's depressing is the number of people who don't care

[Shrike47]

43. Why not be obvious? He pays no price.

[The Genealogist]

52. Subtle? Trump? Surely you jest!

I've seen three year old toddlers on sugar highs who need less attention than that man. Subtlety is utterly foreign to him.

[Snackshack]

8. Agree.

Listening to news still frame collusion as if there is some ambiguity about if it happened or not is...well any number of words would work.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

9. "are you really THAT fuckin' blind"?

Yes... Yes they are.

[Volaris]

47. Hard not to be when your paid to keep your eyes tight shut.

[Trek4Truth]

10. Most of them just can't/won't come out and say that until there is concrete proof.

So for now it's really just speculation. So yes WHY is RUMP up Pooty's ass? Hmmmm wonder why......

[people]

13. Putin wants Russia to rejoin G-7

Well, remember Putin was bragging just recently about how often he and Trump talk, so I'm sure some of those conversations were about Putin saying he wanted Trump to bring up getting Russia back in the G-7. What else can these 2 be talking about other than what Trump's orders are. The interesting part would be to hear the discussions about how Trump will get out of his Mueller problem.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

14. trumputin

[hvn_nbr_2]

67. That's what I've been calling him lately. nt

[The Wizard]

15. Putin has the piss video and

Don Cheato is compromised and with him our sovereignty is nullified .
How did Khrushchev see this coming?

[Eyeball_Kid]

62. It's worse than a piss video.

It’s a recording of the beating and rape of a minor. It’s also a Trumpy-run sex trafficking operation. Remember that Trumpy has no sense of decency, no moral code. NONE. He has and WILL exploit anyone and anything for profit. He has NEVER made any decision on moral or ethical grounds. NEVER.

The entire political establishment is in massive denial. Trumpy is far more dangerous than the worst of assessments made by media celebrities and their executive producers. No one wants to speak the truth.

[trickyguy]

16. Wow, thank you for pointing out what should be very obvious

to anyone who pays attention to what's going on between rTump and Putin.
I'm in shock that he would have the "balls" to suggest this out loud but what the hell.
Every day now there's something outrageous that he does or says.

Very exhausting.

[triron]

20. I don't think it takes much "balls" as you say.

He knows there are no consequences for him.

[triron]

17. They refuse to see.

[George II]

19. Eric Swallwell has it figured out:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210711002

[NanceGreggs]

23. Exactly!!!

I've become a big fan of Swallwell - he's always right on-the-money!

[xxqqqzme]

46. As have I.

He is one smart cookie. He seems to be staying a step or two ahead of the pack.

[paleotn]

22. India or Brazil get in....

before Dumpster's masters in that "gas station masquerading as a country."

[MrPool]

24. Because the corporate media

Is not a member of the 4th estate but the narrative estate. The country means nothing to them. Ratings is their drug.

[Garrett78]

25. The mainstream media in the US is and long has been an utter disgrace.

So many members of the infotainment industry are unwilling to call facts facts and lies lies, as if every statement is an equally valid "opinion" (out of some warped sense of what constitutes fairness). And the false equivalencies are enough to make me scream. A Democratic "extremist" wants single-payer health care sooner rather than later. A Republican extremist wants to bring back slavery and burn LGBTQ persons at the stake.

The GOP's "liberal media" campaign has been highly successful and has undoubtedly contributed greatly to the very issues I just mentioned. Instead of countering it with their own effective narrative, Democrats have been on the defensive lo these past few decades, as the problem has gotten increasingly worse.

Democrats need to be talking about the GOP's false narrative, a corporatized media that promotes false equivalencies, a corporatized media that thinks 2+2=4 is just as valid as 2+2=17, and advocating for media literacy to be taught in every school.

It's not enough for late night comedians to be talking about how abysmal the media is. Democrats need to hit back, and hard. Take control of the narrative for a change.

[keithbvadu2]

26. Putting money into the Donald was the best investment Putin ever made.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

29. You got that right.

Got the Presidency and the Supreme Court. And some say here, the Senate. A coup. And never fired a shot.

[nancy1942]

28. Obviously yes.

It couldn't possibly be made any clearer. And it is apparent that almost half the country really could care less. Not to mention the party in control. This is a nightmare.

[stonecutter357]

30. K&R !

[Butterflylady]

33. He knows what Putin can do

I really believe he's scared to death of him and he knows full well what will happen to him if he does not play ball. Same with Manafort.

[Adrahil]

34. Several commentators on MSNBC have commented...

That Putin is getting a helluva ROI on his 2016 intervention. He couldn't ask for more.

[Pepsidog]

35. Trumpets are blind as a bat

[workinclasszero]

36. They are being paid to be blind by the GOP'ers that own the MSM outlets

Well President Obama wore a tan suit once and Hillary had emails so...

[Blue_true]

37. If Russia is admitted back into the G7.

Putin will know for sure there is no consequence to him for taking over countries, Ukraine and Georgia will be at greatest risk, and Poland and the Baltic States won't be much better off. I really think the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia are fully integrated into Europe proper now, they should be safe.

[C Moon]

42. +1billion!

[Kablooie]

44. The Spy who Loved Himself.

[argyl]

45. Took me about 0.5 seconds to figure out he's doing his Master's bidding.

He might have even lost a dozen or so of his most fervent supporters. He's not even trying to hide who his daddy is anymore.

[triron]

49. Just heard a grandiose rationalization that Trump is into a diffrent "world order"

WTF!

[BadGimp]

50. #PutinWinsAgain

[cilla4progress]

51. It's not why, it's that.

Outside of any debt personal or otherwise trump has to Putin, the fact that he would push this while knowing that Russia hacked the election, by an innocent person, would be bordering on treason.

[CentralMass]

53. кто твой папочка

[Mr.Bill]

54. It would be more logical to ask

California to join the G7. Our economy is larger than some of the current members.

[sarcasmo]

55. Quit watching CNN.

[bucolic_frolic]

58. CNN should call it as it is

Trump is a lobbyist for Russia and should register as such

[dlk]

60. Many Media Outlets Don't Always Let the Facts Get in the Way of Their Agenda

Too much living in reality and a fact-based world isn't good for profits.

[Eyeball_Kid]

61. Enough with the verbal dancing.

Trumpy is an evil traitor whose allegiance is with a foreign adversary. He represents RUSSIA! He’s NOT loyal to the Constitution and never was. Yet the mainstream media covers their collective ears and eyes and denies the obvious, to our detriment and endangerment. What’s especially dangerous is the GOP’s passivity. They’re on board with the disintegration of the Constitution, right along with Putin. They have no shame, no decency. They are in full traitor mode along with Trumpy.

To render another kind of assessment is to deny reality.

[KPN]

64. Exactly!

[SunSeeker]

65. Lots of folks said that today: Steve Schmidt, Malcolm Nance, and on and on..

Trump is a Russian asset.

[Blue Owl]

66. Putin's Bitch

Might be my favorite new nickname for you-know-who...

[jimlup]

68. Yes many are that f'ing blind /nt

[corbettkroehler]

70. Many Practice Willful Blindness

Drumpf's G-7 question before boarding Marine One reminded us of one or more truths:

1) He didn't pay attention to the global outcry over the military annexation of Crimea;
2) He did have a problem with Putin's annexation of Crimea;
3) He spoke with Putin hours or minutes before leaving for the G-7;
4) He believes Putin walks on water.

[ladym55]

72. Malcolm Nance calls it out all the time

He is a regular on MSNBC. He calls Trump a Russian asset. He did it again this morning. He also said that Trump was an idiot, which is worse than a moron. The panel on AM Joy that followed Donny J's impromptu press blathering was actually freaked out. They looked green. Later in the program the question was asked ... why wasn't the press asking more questions of tRump? Why were they letting him getting away with his completely unhinged statements?

Unfortunately, most of M$M hasn't done its job in years.

[ck4829]

75. Kick

[Gothmog]

76. Trump is Putin's puppet