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Persondem

(1,936 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 08:47 PM Jun 2018

10 "facts" conservatives think are true ... a great read (and well researched)

One of the opening paragraphs ... from https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/10-historical-facts-right-winger-believe/

Useful as an explanation and useful for those of us who push back on these right wing talking points. There are lots of links embedded. Make use of them when, oh say, having an online discussion with your MAGA uncle who pretends to have an open mind.

Yeah, deadline pressure’s a bitch. But there are some bizarre notions of American history in which conservatives have become so invested they’ve adopted them into their worldview. The best-known example is probably Jonah Goldberg’s notion of “Liberal Fascism“; nowadays anytime a conservative talks about, say, Woodrow Wilson or Hillary Clinton, you may expect him to mention their resemblance to Benito Mussolini. They don’t even have to think about it, even when normal people are gaping at them open-mouthed like audience members at “Springtime for Hitler” — it’s part of the folklore that helps them understand the American experience.

There are plenty of others. I’ve picked out 10 such ideas that are widespread enough to qualify. (In the nomenclature I have treated “Republican” and “conservative” as synonyms because, come on.)

10. The Robber Barons weren’t robbers — they were capitalist heroes.

The overarching task of the conservative historian is to rehabilitate the image of ....
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10 "facts" conservatives think are true ... a great read (and well researched) (Original Post) Persondem Jun 2018 OP
That was quite interesting - I have heard only a couple of those rurallib Jun 2018 #1
Thank you. It's almost like a religion with a healthy dose of Persondem Jun 2018 #5
What was it Orwell said in 1984 rurallib Jun 2018 #6
That's a list of 10 things conservatives I know, would know nothing about. nt greyl Jun 2018 #2
Exactly Awsi Dooger Jun 2018 #3
Probably true for the the low thought maga types, but I have encountered Persondem Jun 2018 #4
The one about the Republicans treestar Jun 2018 #7
Edroso wrote that 7 years ago muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #8
They are not facts with or without quotation marks malaise Jun 2018 #9

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
1. That was quite interesting - I have heard only a couple of those
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 09:22 PM
Jun 2018

you have to have a twisted mind and twisted (or alternate) "Facts" to believe any of that horse shit.
And republicans don't disappoint on either count.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
5. Thank you. It's almost like a religion with a healthy dose of
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jun 2018

"our side can do no wrong" .... The article points out the foundational thinking behind it all.... but of course only some maga types think about it to this degree.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
6. What was it Orwell said in 1984
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jun 2018

"those who control the present control the past. Those who control the past control the future."

See, our side was always right and had to fight off that wrong headed liberal scum.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
3. Exactly
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jun 2018

A more accurate and relevant list would include something like, "Trump won the popular vote minus all those millions of illegal votes."

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
4. Probably true for the the low thought maga types, but I have encountered
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:29 AM
Jun 2018

some conservatives who like to base their opinions on "reality". It's just that their "reality" ain't true.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. The one about the Republicans
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jun 2018

being supportive of the Civil Rights Act, while they would not be today, is one of the most disingenuous.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
8. Edroso wrote that 7 years ago
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jun 2018
https://www.alternet.org/story/149871/10_historical_%27facts%27_only_a_right-winger_could_believe

I think if he updated it for today, he'd find far worse. Their abuse of history and facts is a magnitude worse these days. And Trump has showed it can get him elected.
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