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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 09:02 PM Jun 2018

Might As Well Start Shooting Sick People If Pre Existing Conditions Denial Restored.

Trump and the GOP are determined to create a hell on earth in the US. Ending health care for sick people is pretty much pre meditated murder. Many people who need life saving care will be SOL.

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Might As Well Start Shooting Sick People If Pre Existing Conditions Denial Restored. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jun 2018 OP
If you have no money, you don't deserve to live...been GOP doctrine beachbum bob Jun 2018 #1
I think this cost them the house and maybe even the Senate. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #2
If there was a god in heaven Matthew28 Jun 2018 #3
Yes...the GOP and Trump are monsters. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #6
Yes...The GOP have reneged on their deal...and Trump too of course. They are liars. There is no Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #15
what is amazing, the number of issues democrats can campaign on which can ignore the red meat issues beachbum bob Jun 2018 #14
Absolutely and we should all take to twitter and other forms of social media and write editorials. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #16
We have money Ms. Toad Jun 2018 #4
That and subsidies were best aspect of ACA. White wingers believe each person should provide/pay for Hoyt Jun 2018 #5
They claim to be pro life, but they clearly are not. This is vile. Shrike47 Jun 2018 #7
:) WE LIKE THIS! 150 days to midterms, guys. Hortensis Jun 2018 #8
That would be the humane thing to do. I was just thinking the same thing. Snotcicles Jun 2018 #9
I think people who have life saving treatment denied should start taking out a few smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #10
+1 ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #13
We've Heard The Same Thing Before Westcoast52 Jun 2018 #11
I keep on wanting to write a very dark story in which PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #12
Meanwhile health insurance CEOs are paid 10s of thousands of$$$ SammyWinstonJack Jun 2018 #17

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
15. Yes...The GOP have reneged on their deal...and Trump too of course. They are liars. There is no
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jun 2018

reason for the Dems to make deals when the GOP liars in the White House and the Congress won't keep them. And to target children for death in order send more taxpayer money to the rich which includes most if not all Republicans in the Senate is evil.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. what is amazing, the number of issues democrats can campaign on which can ignore the red meat issues
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 06:52 AM
Jun 2018

like abortion and gun control altogether. This is almost divine intervention of the meltdown of republicans and trump in dishing up issue after issue that affects real working american familes..

EVERY democratic campaign can focus on TRUST....how can you trust republicans with healthcare? How can you trust republicans with tax policies? How can you trust republicans with safeguarding taxpayer's money? How can you trust republicans with preventing corruption? How can you trust republicans to protect our national parks? How can you trust republicans to find solutions to student loan crisis? How do you trust republicans on economy? On trade?

Each one can be turned into a simple 30 second TV add, a 30 second radio ad....We can completely overrun every election with this tactic.

So many other issues that don't near the red meat issues that republicans want to use.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
16. Absolutely and we should all take to twitter and other forms of social media and write editorials.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:29 AM
Jun 2018

You go to red states and find the news is not the real news. I discovered that when I live in Georgia. My sis calls me up and asks about what is going on (she still lives there) and watches MSNBC at night.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
4. We have money
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 09:17 PM
Jun 2018

We were blessed with simple tastes, parents who taught us early how to save, good educations, and a fair amount of luck so that any out of work times were relatively brief.

That won't save us. All the money we have saved over 40-45 years will vanish in a few short years if insurance companies are again allowed to bar people with pre-existing conditions.

I have been saying my daughter had $60-100,000 in billed expenses each and every year. Through insurance miscommunication with her care providers, I have learned that it is over to $200,000. (A single treatment - which is reqiured every 8 weeks is $20,000 for administration and $8,000 for medicine.) On top of that, she has extensive cancer screening (including a costly MRI every year, a colonoscopy, and less costly additional screening, and a second relatively costly medication)).

She currently has $40,000 in outstanding bills (because the second treatment occurred before the miscommunication was discovered).

Her own income is under $20,000 (less than the cost of one treatment). At her burn rate, our savings - and the inheritance we anticipate from my parents, will vanish in less than a decade.

Killing people with pre-existing conditions has nothing to do with them having access to money.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. That and subsidies were best aspect of ACA. White wingers believe each person should provide/pay for
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jun 2018

their own healthcare, rather than collectively pooling the risk, until they get sick.

I don’t know how we overcome white wing ignorance, or why people the ACA or a Public Option would help, don’t vote.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. :) WE LIKE THIS! 150 days to midterms, guys.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jun 2018

Seriously, the Repubs are frantic to hold onto the senate so the next SCOTUS appointment would almost certainly be theirs. And with another Gorsuch on the court they might be able to rule all these big programs unconstitutional. Or just something even more crippling than the current effort to get mandatory coverages declared unconstitutional, such as how to fund them.

We must get control of congress on November 6, and Trump is helping us.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
9. That would be the humane thing to do. I was just thinking the same thing.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jun 2018

It is going to be horrific for low income retried people.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. I think people who have life saving treatment denied should start taking out a few
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jun 2018

republicans with them. Sorry, but they only way they will ever change is if their hateful policies come back to affect them personally.

 

Westcoast52

(34 posts)
11. We've Heard The Same Thing Before
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jun 2018

. .when GOPers said Obamacare would have death panels. If hospitals/providers are left holding the bag because insurers slide out from under people with pre-existing, the whole system will die off locally, then regionally, then nationally. Providers can't survive either because the whole health system is an irrational exercise in survival of the financially fittest.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
12. I keep on wanting to write a very dark story in which
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM
Jun 2018

at some point in the future health care is "reformed" so that the cheapest insurance pays for a person to be taken out to the north 40 and shot. It will pay for the bullet.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
17. Meanwhile health insurance CEOs are paid 10s of thousands of$$$
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:13 AM
Jun 2018

a day in salaries for denying health care coverage.

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