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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 04:10 AM Jun 2018

Could this new more inclusive flag replace the rainbow flag?

Daniel Quasar (a designer in Oregon) is proposing a new, “progress”-focused design for the rainbow flag. The design puts white, pink, light blue, brown, and black stripes in an arrow on the left on top of the six-striped rainbow flag.

The main part of the flag is the rainbow flag “so as not to take away from its original meaning.”

The light blue, pink, and white stripes on the left come from the transgender flag. The brown and black stripes represent people of color, “as well as those living with AIDS, those no longer living, and the stigma surrounding them,” Quasar writes.

... was inspired to design the new flag when the Philadelphia Office of LGBT Affairs displayed a version of the rainbow flag with brown and black stripes to represent people of color.
“I felt there needed to be more thought put into the design and emphasis of the flag to give it more meaning,”

More at https://tinyurl.com/y8sl2ky3

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Could this new more inclusive flag replace the rainbow flag? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 OP
I like it! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #1
That's a truly thoughtful flag lunatica Jun 2018 #2
not really, nature has provided us with the source of all colors. its enough nt msongs Jun 2018 #3
I agree. The original flag is beautiful. The new one, though I get the philosophy, is not. Squinch Jun 2018 #6
Ugh. Intellectually it makes sense. Visually, it's kind of ugly. pnwmom Jun 2018 #4
Ditto aeromanKC Jun 2018 #5
Agreed. Apply the KISS principle. Simple works for symbols. justhanginon Jun 2018 #14
There is nothing wrong with the original. Behind the Aegis Jun 2018 #7
Yes, please channge it! TomVilmer Jun 2018 #8
Pretty. byronius Jun 2018 #9
No, just no Boomer Jun 2018 #10
Your opinion ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #17
The Stars and Stripes do it for me bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #11
While I understand the desire to visually show the other colors,... debsy Jun 2018 #12
No, leave the rainbow flag alone. A rainbow comes from the spectrum of light. Let there be light. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #13
The colors intruding can be made from the existing colors of the rainbow. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2018 #15
It smacks of "separate but equal" to me. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #16
my trans daughter loves it. mopinko Jun 2018 #18
Looks awful oberliner Jun 2018 #19
Clever and interesting but no ryan_cats Jun 2018 #20
I suspect some group will feel left out left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #21

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
7. There is nothing wrong with the original.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 05:29 AM
Jun 2018

The only real problem is the complete ignorance of what the original flag represented. If people want to use it, fine, but I think it is stupid.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
8. Yes, please channge it!
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 05:47 AM
Jun 2018

Many are using the gay rainbow flag from 1978 - confusing because this opposite version has been used since 1961 by the Peace movement:



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Boomer

(4,168 posts)
10. No, just no
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 05:52 AM
Jun 2018

We shouldn't need to plaster a race color chart over the pride rainbow because the gender concepts behind the original apply to everyone. There have to be better ways to call out racism in the gay community than this graphic monstrosity.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
11. The Stars and Stripes do it for me
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 06:32 AM
Jun 2018

Just make America into an all-inclusive nation of equal opportunity and stop protecting the rich.

I know. Tall order.

debsy

(530 posts)
12. While I understand the desire to visually show the other colors,...
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 06:37 AM
Jun 2018

...the new design separates specific colors out of the whole which, in my opinion, detracts from the original intent. The Rainbow represents ALL colors. The rainbow flag represents ALL people, regardless of color or any other distinguishing feature. Using the color as pigment theory, black is made by mixing the three primary colors together in equal parts. Brown is made by adding complimentary colors together in any amount chosen to achieve varying hues and shades. Other colors can be made by mixing the primary colors together in varying amounts (of course, you have to add white which, in color pigment theory is devoid of color). The concept is all inclusive. You can't improve on that.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
15. The colors intruding can be made from the existing colors of the rainbow.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:41 AM
Jun 2018

I'm not a trained artist nor an expert in any kind of color theory but I do paint and enjoy mixing colors.

The rainbow is all you need.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
16. It smacks of "separate but equal" to me.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:52 AM
Jun 2018

I always thought the rainbow was symbolic of being inclusive to everyone as it was. Adding those other stripes that represent factions of the whole group DOES change the original meaning of the rainbow, does it not? Why do they feel the need to separate out these individual groups from the entirety?

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
18. my trans daughter loves it.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jun 2018

although looking at it, i think it might be more visually appealing if the colors of the triangle were flipped.

it's hard to accept change sometimes, but to me it is like adding stars to the stars and stripes as new states were added. i am sure some didnt like it the first time that happened, but i cant imagine it now w/o 50 stars.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
20. Clever and interesting but no
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jun 2018

Clever and interesting but no.

I heard Gilbert Baker talk about the thought that went into this and it seems to me to be co-opting his vision.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
21. I suspect some group will feel left out
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jun 2018

I suspect some group will feel left out,
and want a further adaptation.

I think we should stay with the current one.

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