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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI owe an apology to a few members I unwittingly offended.
Sincerely, if I were them, I'd be offended too. I posted a satirical image about Charles Krauthammer.
I did not know in his youth he suffered an accident which caused a facial paralysis nor that he was a terminal patient and his time was short.
My quite grating and ironic witty, often tends to be sarcastic, but I will never, ever, hurt anyone so cruelly and so lowly, regardless either of their health or appearance, when it is not a deliberate one, and even less, when it is the result of misfortune.
Humor is one thing, wickedness and baseness are others, those are not in my nature.
The hardship he and his family are going through, makes the subject even more despicable.
I considered keeping it while deleting the picture and explain why, but as it remains visible, I deleted the post.
However, even if the topic no longer exists, it does not absolve me from apologizing.
First to himself and his family, although it is unlikely they knew about it, and then to the members of DU whom I unintentionally offended.
Please accept my heartfelt apologies.
It teaches me a lesson for the future : I will be more careful before posting a topic related to a physical peculiarity, a strange resemblance about a public personality i
lunatica
(53,410 posts)You did not know and Im sure you would never have done it if you knew. Its obvious from your apology.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Thank for your kind comment.
I felt really bad
It is one thing to mock Fox News anchors, it another to be mean.
I can't skip apologies, even if the subject went unnoticed.
So be it, if I look weak, I would rather have a clear conscience.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,359 posts)So I think you can be forgiven for not knowing.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Thank you.
Even if it's not intentional, I still feel guilty for being cruel.
There is nothing worse than gratuitously hurting other people's feelings.
Rhiannon12866
(205,359 posts)How could you have known? I certainly didn't. I think I can picture the guy in question from glimpses I've seen on MSNBC, but I'm not positive. And I don't think anyone on DU is likely to hold a resentment.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Had more than facial paralysis, he was totally paralyzed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
syringis
(5,101 posts)His background is highly impressive !
I may be wrong, but his profile is far higher than what I would have expected from a Fox News anchor.
His political opinions do not seem to be in line with the channel's editorial line either.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)With anything Krauthammer said. Seldom listened to him, but became curious when he never moved the few times I did see him. Googled and found out.
He was really a brilliant man, so why he chose to be a Republican was beyond me.
If you did not know your apology was great.
We Democrats admit when we make a mistake. Few Republicans ever do.
syringis
(5,101 posts)As he aroused my curiosity, I did some research.
I'm all impressed with what I've discovered.
He's a genuine intellectual, whose thinking and reasoning follow a complex and profound path.
Through the little I've read, I wouldn't call him a Republican. He embraces some of their point of view, however, he seems to me rather to be navigating between neo-conservatism and neoliberalism.
Many controversial opinions have also been expressed. Some glorify him, others accuse him of intellectual dishonesty.
It is not the few articles I picked here and there that will give me a very accurate idea.
That said, according to my own political tendencies, on many points, I disagree with him completely.
Anyhow, denying him the intellectual etiquette would be wrong.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Was a brilliant man. I have always given him that.
I never knew Mitch McConnell had Polio until I did some research. He was 2 and was sent to recuperate just like FDR.
Polio was once a fearful disease until they developed a Vaccine.
syringis
(5,101 posts)It's off topic.
The anti-vaccination campaigns, under the fallacious pretext some will likely to cause severe side effects, are getting me nuts!
While vaccines may have serious secondary effects, on one hand, the % of people affected is extremely low, and on the other hand, the effects vary both from vaccine to vaccine as well from the way it is administered, or from one person to another.
Most of the time, the effects are benign with the overall benefits of vaccination far exceeding the potential risks.
Moreover, anti-vaccines often have no medical or scientific background. They propagate nonsense from here and there with no scholarly basis whatsoever!
Anyway, they don't care since they postulate of the greed and the lack of ethics of laboratories, helped by officials allegedly complicit, according to some idiotic conspiracy theories !
As a result, some diseases that were once thought to be practically eradicated are resurfacing, causing more damages than the dangers of vaccines, supposedly minimized by the infamous rapacious laboratories!
Anti-vaccination morons are real public dangers, both humanly and financially. This bullshit is a huge public health and global disaster!
Well done TBA. We all screw up once in a while. It takes a good person to admit it and apologize. Thanks.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)That. None of us are infallible.
History is my best subject but that does not mean I do not make mistakes.
Now, if we could really understand what is wrong with Trump we would have it made.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Kudos to you. You have a good heart.
syringis
(5,101 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,426 posts)People will not form an opinion of you based on one post. They will look at everything else you have posted in the past. Don't beat yourself up...people usually understand that good people occasionally "slip up". However, your post wasn't even a slip up, it was just what happens when we as good humans interact with others.
Your apology is one of the best that I've read. You could teach a thing or two to those people who can barely force an "I'm sorry" from their lips.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Your words a so kind. Thank you very much.
I'm not beating up myself, it is the way I behave.
It's beyond my understanding, why people, or at least some, have trouble to apology ? They are not asked to cut an arm or hang themselves ! Are they ?
Sincere apologies are a simple and easy way to fix a mistake. Well of course, I'm talking about relatively minor mistakes.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)no harm and that is what counts. You are a nice person.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)is separate from the good or ill they do with their beliefs and actions. As I say, I don't know what your "satirical image" was. But I submit that anybody's condition of disability/race/whatever does not equate to getting a free pass for harm they might do. Whenever the wingnuts trumpet the Dem label when a Dem commits a crime, I say, the label in that person's case was a false pretense.
There's a governor in Texas in a wheelchair. He is a raging wingnut who pals with Ted NUGENT. He slashes any program that might help the most vulnerable. When he was a college student, he was jogging and a rotted tree fell on him, leaving him a paraplegic. He spent years suing the homeowner and the tree trimming company and finally got many millions of cash. Fine. But one of his main political feats was to get legislation passed that puts a cap on what others can similarly sue to get. His name is Greg ABBOTT.
As for me, ABBOTT and KRAUTHAMMER deserve withering criticism, disdain, repulsion. It's not a matter of their physical/mental disability or any other condition separate from their beliefs and actions towards others.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)UTUSN
(70,695 posts)Trek4Truth
(515 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)I agree to some extent.
Otherwise, we would no longer be able to criticize any of the past monsters in the name of due mercy.
But there is a time for criticism and a time to respect the pain of both the one concerned and his beloved ones, who are going through difficult times.
Moreover, in this particular case, even if the situation had been different, the satirical dimension was based on Charles' facial rigidity, which was the result of an accident.
That makes de facto, any mockery totally inappropriate and cruel.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Krauthammer had a mean streak that really stood out at the time because it was before what were so used to getting from the Right now. As time passed he got worse and I simply thought he was very bitter about something. I always knew he was in a wheelchair, so I dont give him a pass on that account. He was a regular on some political opinion show when I watched him. He said mean and bitingly sarcastic things about Democrats.
My opinion is based on what he did, not whatever affliction he had. His mind worked perfectly, and he used it with sharp precision.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)Kaleva
(36,301 posts)OP chose to act like Obama. Others here in this thread took the Trump train.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)Gives me some, not many, things to muse about, such as:
1) There are DUers on "the Trump train"?
2) What does one do with a post that is lobbed (not a *guided* missile) in one's general direction?
3) What does one do with an implication that the OP needs some kind of defense against me?
4) Is this post (#47) what is called a "blind item" in gossip columns like Page Six?
5) I'm always mystified when the CONTENT of my own words is ignored and thereby dismissed as being on somebody's "train" (talking points).
6) "act like Obama/Trump/whomever" - I picked up from NIETZSCHE to poke around inside my own psyche, not be somebody's Follower or Worshipper, and that goes for what I used to call "heroes" of my own persuasion. The Bill CLINTON saga, where we went to the last barricade to defend him (a human) and therefore abandoned work on our AGENDA for the duration, reinforced the demise of Hero-Worship for me.
But I'm spitting in the wind here, so toodle-oo!1 (Signed: ) Somebody Who Doesn't Attack Members
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)UTUSN
(70,695 posts)Trek4Truth
(515 posts)was not what is in your heart and that you may not know a few things about the guy.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 9, 2018, 01:57 PM - Edit history (1)
Thank you very much.
I knew nothing about him, unless he was a Fox News anchor.
When I learned more, I had to apologize.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Well, most of us, anyway.
Edited to add: I didn't see your post, so I can't give comment on it. I will say that I, personally, try to refrain from making negative comments on anyone's physical appearance or afflictions. I kinda cringe when someone calls McConnell a turtle. He can't help that. I can't stand him for many reasons, none of which have anything to do with the way he looks.
At the same time, -45's appearance is self-manufactured, so IMO it's fair game. His hair and his orange-ness are of his own doing. I wouldn't make fun of someone for being bald. It happens, and it's no big deal as far as I'm concerned. I wish nobody was ever dissatisfied with their natural skin tone. We humans are all naturally different hues. and they're all beautiful. Obesity is a big problem for many in this country. I try not to ridicule -45 for it, but when he ridicules others for it, it's a challenge to "go high".
-45 does open the door to criticisms about his appearance because of all of the offensive comments he makes about others, but I hate what he does way more than I hate how he looks.
syringis
(5,101 posts)It was, more or less, in the same tone as this pic :
Making fun of Ted's resemblance to a fictional character doesn't seem very mean to me.
For Charles Krauthammer's picture, it is different. I didn't know anything about the facial paralysis on which the mockery was based.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)when you put up a side-by-side.
I didn't know much about Krauthammer until about a year ago when I read up on his history. To me, some of his views are conflicting. I wonder if his opinions on end-of-life issues would change if his prognosis offered him a little more time.
At least he didn't vote for -45, and does believe that his campaign colluded with Russians.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)I won't make you bow down to me...
I didn't see the post you mentioned. But honestly, syringis, I can't imagine you ever being offensive or callous. You are a strong advocate for what is right and good. I'm glad you are on our side.
syringis
(5,101 posts)LOL
Being mean is really not my nature. But mistakes happen. When I make one, I do apologize.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)What does it feel like?
It reminds me of the 'Most Interesting Man In The World' commercials: "He once had an awkward moment......just to see what it felt like..."
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I always admire someone who can admit wrongdoing and sincerely apologize for it. I think we all need to be careful about someone's physical characteristics. Moral and intellectual are still fair game!
syringis
(5,101 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)you are more proficient than most of us natives.
All the best syringis......
syringis
(5,101 posts)Your words are very kind, thank you very much.
panader0
(25,816 posts)because my last name is Baker.
pan is bread, a panadero is a bread maker.
I always enjoy your posts.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Nice nickname
I Love cooking, baking, making bread, sweets and chocolates. It's a true passion
I collect old cookery books and magazines. It's very interesting to go back in time from a culinary point of view.
I try as much as I can, to share interesting things. Mostly are pictures or cartoons.
I'm now starting to discuss a bit more, as I improved a lot my English skills. Though, it is not yet the of the journey. I still have a lot to learn.
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)Merci beaucoup, mais au fond, ce n'est que la moindre des politesses de s'excuser quand on a tort.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)et aussi, sage d'eviter un tort. Mais c'est souvent difficle
handmade34
(22,756 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)I didn't see the post in question but going by your past posts and your reputation on this site, I believe you when you say this was an honest mistake. No one is perfect.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Thank you very much
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)I disagree with him on politics. That said, I know people who have hosted Krauthammer for corporate speaking events, and say he is a joy to work with.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Obviously don't agree with his view point but admire his fighting to the finish line.
Also admire your eloquent OP.
Raine
(30,540 posts)to make such an honest heartfelt apology, this is the way all apologies should be done. I didn't know for the longest time either what Krauthammer had been thru in his life. I was suprised because he hid it so well, I probably said some stuff that wasn't very nice before I knew. The important thing is that we learn and remember from our mistakes. Let it go and don't beat yourself up about it.
syringis
(5,101 posts)I'm not special just a normal person
Hekate
(90,686 posts)But you have made a heartfelt and graceful apology.
I hope those who need to see this post get to see it.