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Did Germans know at this point (Original Post) cilla4progress Jun 2018 OP
Some did, no doubt. Others knew, but went along, for various reasons. MineralMan Jun 2018 #1
Your answer is the closest Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #16
A lot of people got out in time, but far too many did not. MineralMan Jun 2018 #17
Man,I here you. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #18
I'd have to say that many did... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #2
Einstein read between the lines of what was coming. dubyadiprecession Jun 2018 #6
Yes they knew CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #3
The clergy knew and the Barmen Declaration was the line drawn in the sand Brother Buzz Jun 2018 #4
Many Protestants voted for the Nazis CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #11
They always knew. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2018 #5
Thats why we must not look away, we need to learn from history. sunonmars Jun 2018 #7
and we know too dembotoz Jun 2018 #8
My great uncle was in the Pacific theatre during WW2. roamer65 Jun 2018 #9
Most did not. Conservatives and many others struggling Hortensis Jun 2018 #10
This is not directly connected but my grandfather (acccording to my mothers memories) pennylane100 Jun 2018 #12
Beginning of the 1930s--some suspected. End of the 1930s? They all knew. DFW Jun 2018 #13
+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #15
Thanks, DFW Hekate Jun 2018 #19
List: How in the HELL could you NOT know? CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #14
Have you read "Hitler's Willing Executioners"? nt tblue37 Jun 2018 #22
The social democrats (center-left) knew early on, judging by their campaign posters... renegade000 Jun 2018 #20
Read "They Thought They Were Free," by Milton Mayer. You can get it free online. tblue37 Jun 2018 #21
Most knew and were ok with it JI7 Jun 2018 #23
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. Your answer is the closest
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jun 2018

to the truth according to my Relatives who were there at the time. Best described as a slow moving landslide. When their Neighbors were disappeared,they fled to Switzerland and made it to the States as Displaced Persons in 1947.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. A lot of people got out in time, but far too many did not.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 01:14 PM
Jun 2018

It pays to keep a close eye on trends in government. Right now, we're on a very bad trend. If we don't end it this November, it may start looking like time to bail, I think. However, many are in no position to leave and wait it out. We really, really need to regain control of Congress in 2018 and follow that up with even more gains and a Democratic President in 2020. It is going to be crucial to do that.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Man,I here you.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jun 2018

To damn many similarities to the 1933 and beyond period of time. When we found out Trump's,one of the few books this Clown read,was Hitlers Speeches,that told me all I want to know about him . Then went David Kaye Johnson's book popped,wow,Trump is self created in the mold of a cross between PT Barnum and Roy Cohn.

He truly believes his lies and created Conspiracy theories that drool from his lips. Again,we have to get our people to the Polls. The window of change is closing fast.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
2. I'd have to say that many did...
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

We have many ex-pat German emigre families in the US whose ancestors came here in the 1930's, including folks like Einstein.

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
3. Yes they knew
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

My father told me that they knew and that there was a lot of "talk" about what was going on but it was a lot easier to look the other way and pretend nothing was amiss.

Its pretty disgusting as the # of concentration camps in Germany (and elsewhere) was massive and you could not have lived in the eastern block without knowing!

= murder!



CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
11. Many Protestants voted for the Nazis
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jun 2018

Many Protestants voted for the Nazis in the elections of summer and autumn 1932 and March 1933.

So they knew alright as did my late Dad who served in the Marine Corps during WWII. He was the child of a mother whose parents were Catholic Germans that fled Germany in the mid-1800s. Had they not fled, they would have been cooked in Hitler's ovens and I would not be here to write about it today.

Found my old grandfather on the lists of war deserters in Germany! Proud of this fact!



dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
8. and we know too
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jun 2018

and some tried to stop it.
and they paid with their lives.....

do we have the same backbone?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. My great uncle was in the Pacific theatre during WW2.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jun 2018

He was a medic on Tinian. He saw both of the A-bombs and met the B-29 crews that dropped them.

I asked him once what year was it that people knew war was coming... his answer very quickly was 1938.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Most did not. Conservatives and many others struggling
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jun 2018

in the misery of post-WW1 Germany wanted a return to the good times of the authoritarian government under the Kaisers. That was only a handful of years before. Germany was an advanced, prosperous nation. German was the language of science. They didn't know what "it" was yet, but if they had most wouldn't have believed it could happen there. They didn't understand how destructive populist resentments can be harnessed by bad leaders.

Lying leaders. Hitler ran basically on Ronald Reagan's themes of family values, protecting traditional religion, national defense, just with a different style, that of a strong man who could replace the Kaiser and put Germany back on her feet. Many would have worried and repelled by the racist and aggressively hostile themes, but they didn't see the later foam-flecked maniac our newsreels loved to show.

So many differences between us and Germany, but THIS is what scares me: Fascism is an archconservative system. BUT Hitler was voted into power by populists waves from BOTH left and right. Add in most of the rest of the right and that created the majority that made the Third Reich possible. That's how it could happen here.

In 2016, we had two significant populist movements, a large one on the right that was joined by the rest of the right and a small one on the left that was limited and not joined by the liberal left. But the two groups didn't unite.

VOX: Populism, defined in 170 words

Pippa Norris is a political scientist at Harvard University and a scholar of populism. I spoke with her recently about the roots of the global surge in populist politics. Our conversation covered a lot of ground, but her definition of populism is both clarifying and useful:

Populism for me has three dimensions.

* One of which is an appeal to popular sovereignty over and above liberal democracy. The argument is that moral virtue and power should be with the ordinary people and not the elites.

* The second dimension is anti-establishment, and this is opposed not just to political and economic elites but also to other perceived power-holders, like intellectuals or journalists or other groups at the top of society.

* And then thirdly, even though it's about popular sovereignty, in practice there aren't that many mechanisms. Mechanisms like public opinion polls or other forms of democratic referendum are typically weak. So in practice, what happens is the power is seen to reside in the individual leader, the charismatic leader who represents the voice of the ordinary people.

So those three elements come together but they don't tell you a lot about what populists stand for. And here what you get is a variety of populists — from authoritarian populists to progressive populists, and they differ in their actual values.

So we shouldn’t think of populism as an ideology or a worldview; it’s not really an “ism” at all if “ism” implies a specific relationship to ideas. Populism can manifest in myriad ways, and in very different contexts.

As Norris emphasizes, there are three basic features that any populist movement shares: a rejection of representative democracy in favor of direct rule; a criticism of the prevailing power structure (i.e., the “elites”); and a single charismatic leader who personifies the movement.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/30/15078176/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-europe-populism

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
12. This is not directly connected but my grandfather (acccording to my mothers memories)
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jun 2018

had immigrated from Italy to the UK in the early party of the nineteen hundreds, he then returned with his family to where he ran a small vineyard. He and his family returned to England as the rise of fascism began in Italy when Mussolini came to power.

DFW

(54,380 posts)
13. Beginning of the 1930s--some suspected. End of the 1930s? They all knew.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jun 2018

Of course, it was an offense that got you the death penalty (see The White Rose) if you got too vocal about it.

The Concentration Camps were kept walled off from most of the population. Rumors abounded, of course--you can't keep anything that big a total secret. And of course, the people in power would have approved even if they didn't know all the details. Remember the population of Dachau retching and in tears when they were forced to tour the camp immediately after its liberation.

My mom-in-law, who is Catholic, still remembers their local priest telling his congregation that all the Jews that were being rounded up would probably never be seen again. Her dad used to listen to British radio, and told his family what information they passed along. His neighbor, a Nazi party member, told him he knew he was listening, and could denounce him (death penalty offense), but didn't.

The father of a friend of mine from the northwest of Germany learned of "some big installation" near them, so he and some friends walked there one day while on leave. As they approached the outer perimeter, they saw the barriers and layers of barbed wire. They went up to a guard on the other side of the wire and asked what the place was. He said once inside here, you do not come out, so you guys should turn around, go back the way you came, and forget you ever saw this place. They figured it must be something bad. It was. Later, they found out the name. Bergen-Belsen. He was at the Russian front, and had some horror stories of his own. My own father-in-law was so traumatized (was drafted at 17, got a leg blown off at Stalingrad, returned home a cripple before he was 20), he never talked about his experiences in the war, but he did let on that he hoped all his grandchildren would be girls so they never had to serve in the military (got his wish, too).

I don't think many at the start of the 1930s in Germany truly saw what was coming. The time from 1920 to 1935 saw a multitude of changes within a Germany newly (1871) united and horribly humiliated by the end of World War I. Everyone has their own vision of the future, from the Socialists to the Nationalists, and none of them truly saw what was to become of them. I'll bet not even most Nazis ever saw themselves as having absolute power over the country. Indeed, Hitler had many of his original supporters killed in 1934 in case they might not have shared his desire to have himself as absolute ruler. Many Jews waited until it was too late to leave, thinking , surely they wouldn't go THAT far, would they? Yes, they would, and they did.

To say "the Germans in 1930" is like saying "the Americans in 1968 or even 2018." It was not a monolithic wall of singular thinking, and control of the media was a lot more thorough then than it is now.

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
14. List: How in the HELL could you NOT know?
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

HOW?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/full-listing-of-concentration-camps

Germany

Buchenwald/Dora-Mittelbau

Note: Dora-Mittelbau was the cover name of the subcamp situated at Salza/Thuringe. When Dora became an independent camp in 1943, it had its own subcamp at Ellrich. Ellrich was known as one of the worst external kommando.

Abterode (BMW Eisenach)
Adorf
Allendorf (Gmbh zur Verwertung chem. Erzeugnisse)
Altenburg (HASAG)
Annaburg (Siebel-Flugzeugwerke)
Arnstadt (Poltewerke - aircraft engines)
Artern
Arolsen (SS officer school)
Ascherleben (Junker)
Baalberg
Bad Berja
Bad Handersheim (Bruns Apparatebau Gmbh)
Bad Godesberg
Bad Salzungen
Ballenstadt
Baubrigade I-X
Bensberg (Napola Bensberg)
Berga am Elster
Berlstedt (Deutsche Erd- und Steinwerke Dest)
Bernburg (Schacht Plömnitz-Solvay)
Billroda (Schacht Burggraf Billroda)
Birkhan-motzlich
Bischofferode
Blankenburg (Organisation Todt)
Blankenheim (sand)
Bleicherode
Bochum (Eisen- und Huttenwerke AG)
Bochum (Guszstahl Fabrikat. AG)
Bodtenberg
Böhlen (Brabag Braunkohlen- Benzin AG)
Braunschweig (SS-Junkerschule)
Buttelstedt (Fa. Schlosser)
Clus
Colditz (Hasag)
Crawinkel
Coblence- "rebstock"
Cologne (for the mayor)
Cologne (Wagonfab. Köln-Deutz)
Cologne (Messegelände)
Dernau (Fa. Gollnow Sohn)
Dessau (Junker)
Dessau (Dessauer Waggonfabrik)
Dornburg
Dortmund (Dortmund - Hoerder - Hutten - Verein AG)
Duderstadt (Polte-Werke)
Dusseldorf (Rheinmatall-Borsig AG - 2 kommandos)
Dusseldorf (déminage)
Dusseldorf (Dess)
Eisenach (BMW)
Elsnig (Wasag - Westfälisch- Anhaltische Sprengstoff AG)
Ellrich
Eschenhausen (SS-kommando Hecht)
Escherhausen
Essen (Krupp)
Essen (Dest)
Floeszberg (Hasag)
Freitheit-Osterode
Gandersheim
Gelsenkirchen (Gelsenberg Benzin AG)
Giessen (Sanität-Ersatz und Ausbildungabteilung)
Gleina-"willy"
Goettingen (SS cavalry school)
Goslar
Grasleben-"gazelle"
Grosswerther
Gunzerode
Hadmersleben
Halberstadt
Halberstadt-zwieberge
Hardehausen
Hasserode (Mech. Ind. Wernigwerke)
Harzungen (Wirtschaftsforschungs- geselschaft WIFI)
Herzberg/Elster (Hasag)
Hessich-Lichtenau (Munition factory)
Hinzert (Special SS camp with 23 kommandos)
Hohlstedt
Holzen
Ilfeld
Ilsenburg
Jena
Kassel
Kelbra
Klein bodungen
Klein bischofferode
Klein niedergerba
Kleinnoshersleben "ago"
Köln fordwerke
Köln hansestadt
Köln westwagen
Kranichfeld (2 kommandos)
Langensalsa (Junker)
Langenstein (2 kommandos, 1 for the "Organisation Todt&quot
Lauenberg "Laura"
Lehensten "Laura"
Leimbach
Leipzig (Hasag)
Leipzig Lindenthal
Leipzig Markkleeberg
Leipzig Sconau
Leopoldshall (Junker)
Lippstadt (Eisen- und Metallwerke AG)
Lohausen (déminage)
Luetzkendorf (Wintershall AG)
Magdeburg (Braunkohlen und Benzin Brabag)
Magdeburg (Polte-Werke)
Markkleeberg (Junker)
Merseburg
Meuselwitz (Hasag)
Muhlhausen "Martha"
Neustadt (kabel- und Leitungswerke AG)
Niederorshel (Langenwerke AG)
Niedersachswerfen (Ammoniakwerke GmbH)
Nordhausen (Schidt)
Nordhausen (Fliegerhorst-Komandantur)
Nordhausen (Mittelbau II of B II Mittelwerke GmbH)
Nuxei
Oberndorf (L. Muna aircraft munitions)
Ohrdruf (railroad construction)
Oschersleben "Ago"
Osterode (Mech. Ind. fa C Heder)
Osterhagen
* Penig (Gehrt)
Plomnitz
Quedlinburg (Fleigerhorst)
Quedlindburg (Fa Heerbrandt)
Raguhn
Rehmsdorf "Willy"
Roemhild
Rossla
Rothenburg (Fa Mansfeld AG)
Rottleberode (Thyrawerke)
Saalfeld Oertelsbruch
Salza-Thuringe (production of V flying bombs - see note)
Sangerhausen
Schlieben (Hasag)
Schoenau (ATG Maschinebau GmbH)
Schönbeck (Hasag)
Schwalbe V
Schwerte
Sennelager (Panzerausbildungsregiment)
Soemerda (Fa Rheinmetall)
Sollstedt
Sonneberg (Tandradbedrijf C.G. Rheinhardt)
Stassfurt (construction of an underground factory for C.G. Rheinhardt)
Stutzpunkt Sauerland 1
Suhl
Tannenwald
Tanndora (Paper factory)
Taucha (Hasag)
Thekla (Erla-Werke)
Tonndorf (bauleitung Waffen SS)
Torgau (munitions)
Trautenstein
Troeglits (Brabag)
Unna
Walkenried-Wolfleben (Constructions)
Wansleben (Fa C. Mansfeld)
Wansleben "Wilhelm"
Wansleben "Biber II"
Werferlingen (Constructions)
Weimar-Fischtenhain
Weimar (Rautalwerke GmbH)
Wernigerode (Junker)
Westeregeln
Wewelsburg (Guszstahlwerke)
Wickerode
Wieda
Witten-Annen (Ig. Farbenindustrie)
Woebbelin
Wolfen
Wuppertal
Zeitz "Willy"
Zella Mehlis
Zorbig

Dachau

Allach (Org. Todt)
Allach/Karsfeld/Moosach (org. Todt)
Allach-Rothwaige (Org. Todt)
Allersdorf-Liebhof
Ampersmoching
Asbach-Baumenheim (Messerschmitt)
Aibing (NEU)
Aufkrich-Kaufbeuren (Dornier)
Augustenfeld-Pollnhof
Augsburg (Messerschmitt)
* Augsburg-Haunstetten
Augsburg-Pfersee (Messerschmitt)
Bad Ischl
Bad Ischl Saint Wolfgang
Bad Tolz
Baubrigade XIII
Bayernsoien
Bayrishezell
Bichl
Birgsau-Oberstdorf
Blainach (BMW)
Brunigsau
Burgau (Messerchmitt)
Burghausen
Burgkirchen
Donauworth
Durach-Kottern (Messerschmitt)
Eching (Org. Todt)
Ellwagen
Emmerting-Gendorf
Eschelbach
Feistenau
Feldafing
Fischbachau
Fischen (Messerschmitt)
Fischhorn/Bruck
Freising
* Friedolfing
Friedrischaffen
Fulpmes
* Fussen-Plansee
Gablingen (Messerschmitt)
Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Germering-Neuaubing
Gmund
Grimolsried-Mitteneuf-Nach (Org. Todt)
Halfing
Hallein
* Hausham-Vordereckard
Heidenhaim
Heppenhaim
Horgau-Pfersee (Messerschmitt)
Ingoldstadt
Innsbruck
* Itter
Karlsfeld (Org. Todt)
Kaufbeuren (BMW)
Kaufering (Org Todt/Messerschmitt/Dornier)
Kaufering Erpfting
Hurlach
Landsberg
Lechfeld
Mittel-Neufnach
Riederloh
Schwabbeg
Schwabmunchen
Turkenfald
Turkheim
Utting
Kempten-Kotern
Konigsee
Krucklhalm
Landshut-Bayern (Org. Todt)
Lauingen (Messerschmitt)
Liebhof
Lind
Lochau
Lochhausen (BMW)
Lohof
Markt Schwabben
Moosach (Org. Todt/BMW/Messerschmitt)
Moschendorf-Hof
Muldorf (Org. Todt)
Muldorf Ampfing-Waldlager V et VI
Mettenheim
Obertaufkirchen
Munchen
Munchen Friedman
Munchen Riem (Org. Todt)
Munchen Schwabing
Munchen Sendling
Neuburg Donau
Neufahrn
Neustift
Nuremberg
Oberdorf
Oberfohring
Ottobrunn
Oetztal
Passau
Puchheim
Radolfzell
Rohrdorf-Thansau
Rosenheim
Rothschwaige-Augustenfeld (Org. Todt)
St. Gilden/Wolgansee
St. Lambrecht
Salzburg
Salzweg
Sandhoffen
Saulgau
Schlachters-Sigmarszell
Schleissheim
Seehausen-Uffing
Spitzingsee
Steinhoring
Stephanskirchen (BMW)
Strobl
Sudelfeld
Traustein
Trotsberg (BMW)
Trutskirch-Tutzing (Dornier)
Uerberlingen
Ulm
* Unterschleissheim
Valepp
Vulpmes
Weidach
Weilheim
Weissensee
Wicking
Wolfratshausen
Wolfratshausen Gelting
Wurach-Wolhof
Zangberg

Esterwegen [Note: In 1941, this camp became dependent from Neuengamme.]

Frieoythe/Kloppenburg

Flossenburg

Altenhammer
Annaberg
Ansbach
Aue (Sachsen)
Bayreuth
Beneschau
Bozicany
Brüx
Chemnitz
Dresden
Eisenberg
Erbendorf
Falkenau
Flöha
Forrenbach
Freiberg
Ganacker
Giebelstadt
Grafenreuth
Graslitz
Gröditz
Gundelsdorf
Hainichen
Happurg
Heidenau
Helmbrechts
Hersbruck
Hertine
Hof
Hohenstein-Ernstthal
Holleischen
Holyson
Hradischko
Hubmersberg-Hohenstadt
Janowitz
Jezeri
Johanngeorgenstadt
Jungfern-Breschan
Kaaden-Kadan
Kamenicky-Senow
Kirchham
Knellendorf
Koningstein
Krondorf
Leitmeritz
Lengenfeld
Lobositz
Mehltheuer
Meissen
Mittweida
Moickethal-Zatschke
Moschendorf
Mülsen- St. Michel
Munchberg
Neu Rohlau
Nossen
Nuremberg
Obertraubling
Oederan
Olbramowitz
Pilsen
Plattling
Plauen
Pocking
Porschdorf
Poschetzau
Pottenstein
Praha
Rathen
Rathmanndorf
Rabstein
Regensburg
Reuth
Rochlitz
Saal/Donau
Schlackenwerth
Schönheide
Seifhennersdorf
Siegmar-Schönau
Stein-Schönau
St. Georgenthal
St. Oetzen
Stulln
Theresienstadt
Venusberg
Wilischthal
Witten-Annen
Wolkenburg
Würzburg
Zatschke
Zschachwitz
Zschopau
Zwickau
Zwodau

Neuengamme

Ahlem-Hannover
Altgarga
Altegarde-Elbe
Aumund
Aurich-Engerhafe
Bad Sassendorf
Barkhausen
Barskamp
Baubrigade I, II, V et XI
Beendorf-Helmstedt
Bergstedt
Blummenthal
Boizenburg
Braunschweig (plusieurs kommandos)
Bremme-Farbe
Bremme- Osterort-Reisport
Bremme-Schutzenhof
Bremme- Vegesack-aumund
Bremme-weser
Brink-hannover
Brunswick-Busing
Dalum
Dreutte
Engerhafe
Fallersleben-Laagberg
Farge
Fidelstedt
Finkenwerder
Fludwigslust
Fulsbuttel
Geilenberg
Glassau-bei-Sarau
Goslar
Gross-Fullen
Gross- Hesepe
Hamburg (plusieurs kommandos)
Hausberge-Porta
Helmstadt
Hidelsheim
Horneburg
Howachts-Lütjenburg
Kaltenkirch-Heinkaten
Kiel
Ladelund
Langenhagen-Hannover
Langenhorn-Hamburg
Laasberg
Ladelung
Lengerich
Lerbeck
Limmer-Hannover
Linden (Mülhenberg-Hannover)
Lübberstadt
Lujtenberg
Meppen
Minden
Misburg-Hannover
Mölln
Neesen
Neugraben
Neuhof
Neuland-Bremen
Neunkirchen
Neustadt
Nutzen
Ohldorf
Osnabruck
Osterort (Bremen-Riespot)
Poppenbüttel-Sasen
Porta-Westfalica - note: 2 kommandos
Salzwedel
Sandbostel
Sasel
Salzgitter
Schandelah
Schützenhof-Bremen
Schwessing-Husum
Sollstadt
Spaldingstrasse
Steinwerder
Stöcken-Hannover
Stuklenwert
Tiefstak
Uelzen
Veleen
Veerssen - note: 2 kommandos
Vegesack-Aumun - Bremen
Verden-Aller
Wandsbeck
Watenstedt-Drütte-Salzgitter
Wedel
Wilhemsburg-Hamburg
Wilhemshaven
Wittenberge
Wolfsburg
Wöbbelin-Ludwigslust

Ravensbruck

Abteroda
Ansbach
Barth/Ostee (Heinkel)
Belzig
Berlin-Oberschöneweide
Berlin-Schönefeld (Heikel)
Borkheid
Bruckentin
Comthurey
Dabelow
Eberswalde
Feldberg
Fürstenberg (Siemens)
Hennigsdorf
Herzebrück
Hohenlychen
Karlshagen
Klutzow-Stargard
Köningsberg-Neumark
Malchow
Neubrandenburg (Siemens)
Neustadt/Glene
Peenemünde
Prenzlau
Rechlin
Retzow
Rostock-Marienhe (Heinkel)
Stargard
Steinhoring
Schwarzenforst
Uckermark
Velten

Sachsenhausen (click here for more information about this camp)

Bad Saarow
Baubrigade I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI et XII
Beerfelde
Berga
Berlin
Babelsberg
Falkensee
Helensee (Demag)
Hennigsdorf (AEG)
Koepenig
Lichterfelde
Lichtenrade
Reinickendorf (Argus)
Siemens Stadt
Tegel
Wilmersdorf
Biesenthal
Bornicke
Brandenburg/havel
Dammsmuhle-Schonwalde
Debno-Neudamm
Doberitz
Drogen-Niedorf
Falkenhagen-Furstenwalde
Falkensee
Frieoythe/Kloppenburg
Heinkel
Genshagen
Glau-Trebbin
Gross-Rosen
Hohenlychen
Karlsruhe
Klinker
Kl. machnow
Kolpin
Konigswusterhause (Krupp)
Küstrin
Lieberose
Lubben
Muggelheim
Neubrandenburg (Hamburg)
Neustrelitz
Oranienburg
Politz
Prettin
Rathenow
Ravensbruck (jusqu'en 1939)
Riga
Senftenberg/Schwarzweide
Storkow
Stuttgart
Treuenbrietzen
Werde
Wewelsburg
Wittenberg (Arado)

Austria

Mauthausen (Check the "official" homepage of the Mauthausen Memorial for detailed information as well as the Jewish Virtual Library materials.)

Amstetten
Amstetten (women)
Aflenz
Redl-Zipf (code name Schlier)
Bachmanning
Bretstein
Dippoldsau
Ebensee
Ebelsberg (subcommando of Linz III)
Eisenerz
Enns
Florisdorf (=Wien-Florisdorf and Wien-Jedlesee)
Grein
Grossramming
Gunskirchen
Gusen I, II (St. Georgen), III (Lungitz)
(Hartheim) not a subcamp of Mauthausen Mauthausen, but many inmates of Mauthausen and Dachau had been gassed in Hartheim.
Hinterbrühl
Hirtenberg
Klagenfurt
Kleinmünchen (subcommando of Linz III)
Leibnitz
Lind
Lenzing
Linz I, II, III
Loibl- Pass Nord
Loibl- Pass Süd (ex-Yugoslavia)
Melk
Mittersill
Passau I - Waldwerke
Passau II
Peggau
Schiff
Schloss Lind
St. Agyd
St. Lambrecht
St. Valentin
Steyr
Ternberg
Vöcklabrück=Wagrain
Wels
Wien Afa- Werke
Wien Saurer-Werke
Wien-Schwechat
Wien Schönbrunn
Wiener Neudorf
Wiener Neustadt
Zeltlager

Czechoslovakia

Theresienstadt

Bohusovice
Kopisti
Litomerice-Radobylberg
Litomerice
Lovosice (Sputh factory and an oil factory)
Nestemice
Terezin (Plavy mill)
Usti (Schicht factory)
Zalhostice
Kratzau / Chrastava (subcamp of Gross-Rosen - Rogoznica, Poland)

France

Natzweiler-Struthof

Asbach
Auerbach-Bensheim
Baden-Baden
Bad-Oppenau
Balingen
Bisingen
Dautmergen
Dortmettingen
Erzingen
Frommern
Schomberg
Schorzingen
Wuste
Zepfenhan
Bernhausen
Bingau
Bischofsheim
* Calw
Cernay
Cochem
Cochem Treis
Colmar
Darmstadt
Daudenzell
Dautmergen
Donauwiese
Echterdingen
Ellwangen
Ensingen
Fracfort/Main (Adler )
Frommern
Geisenheim (Krupp)
Geislingen
Goben
Gross-Sachesenheim
Guttenbach
Hailfingen
Haslach
Heilbronn
Heppenheim
Hessenthal
Iffezheim
Iffezheim - Baden Oos-Sandweiller
Kaisheim
Kochem
Kochemdorf
Leonberg
Longwy-Thiel: "Very few people ever heard of the Thiel-Longwy concentration camp in north-eastern France, Alsace, close to Luxembourg, and the ex-Maginot line. Four kilometers inside the Chantier de Fer in Thiel was a V2 rocket factory. The camp was four kilometers outside the city, close the ex-German border. Five hundred Hungarian machinists brought in from Auschwitz-Birkenau worked in the factory. The camp was functional between May-October 1944. After 16 kilometers of march, eight hours of work, the prisoners had to carry heavy rocks for about half of a mile, with the only purpose to further deplete their "elan de vivre.' The insufficient calories provided for that amount of work killed many prisoners. From Thiel, in October 1944 the prisoners were in the last minute from Thiel to Kochendorf, Germany. While the train passed above, US Sherman tanks entered the camp below, only a few kilometers away. Atthe same time the US Army also liberated the Strutthoff camp."
(Thanks to George Liebermann for these informations)
Mannheim
Metz
Mosbach
Neckarelz I et II
Neckarelz Bad Rappenau
Neckargerach
Neckargartach-Heilbronn
Neckargerach Unterschwarsach
Neunkirchen
Oberehnheim-Obernai
Obrigheim
Peltre
Plattenwald
Rothau
Saint-Die
Sainte Marie aux Mines
Sanhofen (Daimler-Benz)
Sandweier
Schirmeck
Schönberg
Schörzingen
Schwabisch-Hall
Spaichingen
Tailfingen
Urbes Wesserling
Vaihingen-Enz
Vainhingen/Unterriechinegn
Wasserralfingen
Weckrieden
Wasserling
Zuffenhause (Heinkel)

Poland

Note: the German names of the camps are followed by the actual Polish names.

Auschwitz - Birkenau (Oswiecim - Brzezinka)

Altdorf / Stara Wies
Althammer / Stara Kusnia
Babice
Bauzug
Beruna
Bismarckhütte / Chorzow-Battory
Blechhammer / Slawiecice
Bobrek / Oscwiecim
Budy
Brunn / Brono
Charlottengrubbe / Rydultowy
Chelmek / Chelmek-Paprotnik
Chorzow
Chrzanow
Czernica
Ernforst
Ernfort-Slawecice
Eintrachthutte / Swietochlowice
Freudenthal / Bruntal
Furstengrabe / Lawski
Gleiwitz I, II, II, IV / Gliwice
Golleschau / Goleszow
Gunthergrubbe / ledziny
Harmeze
Hindenburg / Zabrze
Hubertushutte-Hohenlinde / Lagiewniki
Janigagrube-Hoffnung / Libiaz
Jawichowitz
Kobio / Kobior
Lagischa / Lagisza
Laurahutte / Siemianowice
Lepziny-Lawki
Lesslau-Wloclawek
Libiaz-Maly
Lukow
Monowitz / Monowice
Myslowice
Neu Dachs / Jaworzno
Neustadt / Prudnik
Sosnowitz I et II / Sosnowiec
Trezbinia
Tscechwitz / Czechwiece
Harmeze
Plawy
Rajsko
Rybnik
Rydultowy
Siemiennowice
Wloklawek-lesslan
Zasole
Zittau

Belzec

Izbica: Historians consider Izbica a "Holding camp for Belzec. A few hundred Jews from the towns of Furth,Nurnberg and nearby Jewish communities were on March 22, 1942 deported to Izbica. Many died or were murdered in Izbica, many more were shipped to Belzec.
(Thanks to Willie Glaser for these informations)

Gross-Rosen (Rogoznica)

Aslau
Bad Warmbrunn / Cieplice
Bautzen
Berndorf / Bernartice
Blechhammer
Bolkenhain
Breslau - Wroclaw
Brief / Brzeg
Brunnlitz / Bruenec
Brusay / Brzezowa
Bunzlau / Boleslawiec
Bunzlau-Rauscha
Christianstadt
Dornhau
Dyhernfurth
Erlenbush
Eule
Faulbruk
Gabersdorf
Gassen
Cellenau
Falkenberg
Frierland
Fürstenstein
Gebhardsdorf
Gorlitz
Graben
Granefort
Grulich
Grunsberg
Gruschwitz / Kruswica
Halbstadt / Mezimesti
Hartmanndorf
Hirschberg / Jelenia Gara
Buchwald Höhenwöse
Hohenelbe / Wrszlabi
Kamenz
Kaltwasser
Kittlitztrebben / Kotlicki Trebin
Kursbach Grunthal
Landeshut / Kamienogora
Langenblielau / Lielawa
Larche Ludwigsdorf
Lehmwasser
Leszno Lissa
Mahrisch
Marzbachtal
Marzdorf
Mittelsteine
Neisse-Neusalz Oder / Nova Sol
Niesky
Niesky Klein
Niesky Wittischenau
Radisch
Oberalsstadt
Oberwustegiersdorf
Parschnitz / Porici
Peterswaldau
Prausnitz / Prusnica
Rauscha
Reichenau / Risznow
Reichenau Reichenberg Liberal
Reichenau Reichenbach
Schmiedenberg
Seuferwassergraben
Schotterwok
Striegau
Tannhausen
Waldenburg
Weiswasser
Wolsberg
Wustegierdorf / Giercze Puste
Wustegierdorf Station
Wusteweltersdorf
Zittau

Maidanek

Budzyn
Hrubieszow
Lublin

Stutthof (Sztutowo)

Bocion
Bromberg
Chorabie
Cieszyny
Danzig-Burggraben / Kokokszki
Danzig-Neufahrwasser
Danzigerwerf / Gdansk
Dzimianen
Elbing
Elblag (Org. Todt)
Elblag (Schinau)
Police / Szczecin
Gdynia
Gerdenau
Graudenz
Greendorf
Grodno
Gutowo
Gwisdyn
Heiligenbeil
Jessu
Kokoschken
Kolkau
Krzemieniewo
Lauenburg
Malken Mierzynek
Nawitz
Niskie
Obrzycko
Prault
Rosenberg / Brodnica
Scherokopas
Schiffenbeil
Serappen
Sophienwalde
Slipsk
Starorod
Pruszcz
Brusy
Torun (AEG, Org. Todt)

Belgium

Breendonck (no sub-camp known)

Estonia

Vivara

Finland

Kangasjarvi
Koveri

Holland

Amersfoort
Ommen
Vught (12 sub-camps and external kommandos)
Westerbork (transit camp)

Italy

Bolzano
Fossoli
Risiera di San Sabba (no sub-camp known)

Latvia

Riga
Riga-Kaiserwald
Dundaga
Eleje-Meitenes
Jungfernhof
Lenta
Spilwe

Lithuania

Kaunas
Aleksotaskowno
Palemonas
Pravieniskès
Volary

Norway

Baerum
Berg
Bredtvet
Falstadt
Tromsdalen
Ulven

Russia

The real number of concentration and extermination camps established in occupied Soviet Union by the Nazies is unknown. The following list contains the name of the major camps. Some of these camps were under Romanian control; e.g. Akmétchetka or Bogdanovka where 54,000 were executed between December 21th and December 31th, 1941

Akmétchetka
Balanowka
Bar
Bisjumujsje
Bogdanovka
"Citadelle" (real name unknown. camp was located near Lvov. Thousands of Russian POWs were killed in this camp)
Czwartaki
Daugavpils
Domanievka
Edineti
Kielbasin (or Kelbassino)
Khorol
Klooga

Lemberg
Mezjapark
Ponary
Rawa-Russkaja
Salapils
Strazdumujsje
Yanowski
Vertugen (for all these camps, no sub-camp known)

Yugoslavia

Banjica
Brocice
Chabatz
Danica
Dakovo
Gornja reka
Gradiska
Jadovno
Jasenovac
Jastrebarsko
Kragujevac
Krapje
Kruscica
Lepoglava
Loborgrad
Sajmite
Sisak
Slano
Slavonska-Pozega
Stara-Gradiska
Tasmajdan
Zemun



tblue37

(65,357 posts)
21. Read "They Thought They Were Free," by Milton Mayer. You can get it free online.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jun 2018

He describes the way the Nazis took over without many people realizing where it was leading.

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