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orangecrush

(19,572 posts) Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:39 PM Jun 2018

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Jack Kennedy Tried to Warn Us....

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Jack Kennedy Tried to Warn Us.... (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 2018 OP

K&R CentralMass Jun 2018 #1

K&R Docreed2003 Jun 2018 #2

Why do people call him jack? Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #3

Because his family did zipplewrath Jun 2018 #4

Like ted and edward JI7 Jun 2018 #5

Richard and Dick? czarjak Jun 2018 #7

Mary Molly and Polly. Richard Dick or Dickon. Sarah Sally. All old fashioned endearments... Hekate Jun 2018 #10

Jack and John is a bit of a strange one. zipplewrath Jun 2018 #11

John to Jack may have a French connection Hekate Jun 2018 #12

Thank you! orangecrush Jun 2018 #14

Yes, John to Jack was a very popular use. My mother was Mary Teresa but known as Maura. Nowadays, OnDoutside Jun 2018 #15

a term of endearment orangecrush Jun 2018 #6

Awww. A quaint reminder of when a US President spoke English above a 3rd grade level. rainin Jun 2018 #8

Exactly! orangecrush Jun 2018 #13

Jack has always been a nickname for 'John'. My dads name is 'John' but he goes by Jack to friends. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #9

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

1. K&R

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:39 PM

Jun 2018

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)

2. K&R

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:57 PM

Jun 2018

Fullduplexxx

(7,865 posts)

3. Why do people call him jack?

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:09 PM

Jun 2018

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)

4. Because his family did

Reply to Fullduplexxx (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:12 PM

Jun 2018

Jack was a common nickname for John at one time. Never understood why.

JI7

(89,252 posts)

5. Like ted and edward

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:14 PM

Jun 2018

czarjak

(11,278 posts)

7. Richard and Dick?

Reply to JI7 (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:04 AM

Jun 2018

Hekate

(90,714 posts)

10. Mary Molly and Polly. Richard Dick or Dickon. Sarah Sally. All old fashioned endearments...

Reply to czarjak (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:43 AM

Jun 2018

...from the Bristish Isles.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)

11. Jack and John is a bit of a strange one.

Reply to Hekate (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

Jun 2018

Often these nick names are to shorten a name, often to a single syllable. But John to Jack? Anyone heard a Jack being called John?

Hekate

(90,714 posts)

12. John to Jack may have a French connection

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:29 PM

Jun 2018

John has widely-dispersed variations around the world, as John (Ioannis, in Latin) was one of the Apostles. In Scotland, Ian; in Wales, Ewan; in France, Jean; in Spain, Juan -- and that's only part of Western Europe and the UK.

But France also has the name Jacques, which shows up in Scotland as Jock, etc etc. Jacques to Jack is easy. My BIL's given name is Jacques, but when he got to America at age 5 he changed that to Jack for common use.

All I can think of for John to Jack is that in England and Ireland "Jack" in essence means "Everyman." Jack of All Trades. Jack and the Beanstalk. Jack Be Nimble. Lumberjack. Car-jack. There's a book about folktales called "Jack Seeks His Fortune," because so many stories start out with a young commoner named Jack.

It's a tradition of great antiquity. Might as well ask how Mary becomes Molly or even Polly.

orangecrush

(19,572 posts)

14. Thank you!

Reply to Hekate (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:45 PM

Jun 2018

Interesting and informative post!

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)

15. Yes, John to Jack was a very popular use. My mother was Mary Teresa but known as Maura. Nowadays,

Reply to Hekate (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:33 PM

Jun 2018

kids are straight called Jack on their birth cert.

PS In Ireland you had to be baptised using a Saint's name.

orangecrush

(19,572 posts)

6. a term of endearment

Reply to Fullduplexxx (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:18 PM

Jun 2018

For a beloved President...

something Trump will never, ever have.

rainin

(3,011 posts)

8. Awww. A quaint reminder of when a US President spoke English above a 3rd grade level.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:15 AM

Jun 2018

orangecrush

(19,572 posts)

13. Exactly!

Reply to rainin (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:44 PM

Jun 2018

Days of Camelot.

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)

9. Jack has always been a nickname for 'John'. My dads name is 'John' but he goes by Jack to friends.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

Jun 2018

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