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Fellow DUers, please tell me why should we not compare Trump-Kim summit to Nixon's visit to China? (Original Post) muntrv Jun 2018 OP
Well, both Trump and Nixon are criminals. manor321 Jun 2018 #1
Start here: TreasonousBastard Jun 2018 #2
We weren't at war with China. Saboburns Jun 2018 #3
Nixon didn't have Bannon and Bolton horsewhispering Hortensis Jun 2018 #4
And this workinclasszero Jun 2018 #8
Nixon did not go to China to open it up for Trump real estate development Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #5
This workinclasszero Jun 2018 #7
This trumped-up summit was hyped as a possible path to NK denuclearization. John1956PA Jun 2018 #6
Nixon actually accomplished something. snowybirdie Jun 2018 #9
Nixon was a crook but he wasn't a Russian agent workinclasszero Jun 2018 #10
Because Nixon wasn't known for being completely incompetent and unprepared mythology Jun 2018 #11
Nixon wanted to use China as a hedge against the USSR and China wanted to use us as a hedge... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #12
Whatever we may think of Nixon Turbineguy Jun 2018 #13
A couple spring to mind DFW Jun 2018 #14
Much as I hated Nixon, he was not ignorant. redstatebluegirl Jun 2018 #15

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Nixon didn't have Bannon and Bolton horsewhispering
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 09:52 AM
Jun 2018

how to blow up the old global order to establish a new white nationalist order in his ear.

John1956PA

(2,655 posts)
6. This trumped-up summit was hyped as a possible path to NK denuclearization.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jun 2018

In 1972, China was firmly implanted as a thermo-nuclear power. The goal at that time was for each country to ratchet down their mutual distrust and thereby lessen the chance for war.



snowybirdie

(5,230 posts)
9. Nixon actually accomplished something.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 09:56 AM
Jun 2018

China was opened to trade, which took them from a rogue, repressive and secret nation into an economic powerhouse which tries to rival our economy and overtake us. Thanks Dick!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. Nixon wanted to use China as a hedge against the USSR and China wanted to use us as a hedge...
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jun 2018

Nixon wanted to use China as a hedge against the USSR and China wanted to use us as a hedge against the USSR. Nixon didn't go there to try to get them to give up their nukes.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
14. A couple spring to mind
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jun 2018

North Korea does not have about 1/6 of the world's population
North Korea does not represent the potential to be among our top three trading partners
North Korea is not an economically independent entity
North Korea will not gradually relinquish the cultural and political stranglehold on everyone within its borders
North Korea does not have the capacity to penetrate every country in the third world, buy up their raw materials cheaply, do some token building up of their infrastructure, and then cleverly saddle them with unrepayable debts that leave them beholden to North Korea for decades.
North Korea does not have a space program that rivals ours, and can compete with it, and nor do they have the potential to develop one.

In fact, the one thing North Korea DOES have the potential to offer is tourism of all kinds. Wellness tourism cheap. Medical tourism cheap. And, of course, lot of unspoiled (so far) beach and mountain areas that could be turned into posh resorts the locals could work in but never afford to stay at (à la Cuba). Come to think of it, that last might be of interest to anyone who builds and maintains posh resorts. Do you know anyone who fits that description?

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
15. Much as I hated Nixon, he was not ignorant.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jun 2018

He understood foreign policy and had a brain. He also did not want to build hotels on every inch of real estate in the world.

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