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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,215 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:45 PM Jun 2018

I do believe Trump just got himself checkmated.

Whether or not he actually told Kim he’d lift the sanctions is completely irrelevant.

Kim’s as big a liar as he is, so who knows what the truth is.

Problem now is if he calls Kim a liar then that pretty much sends US-NK relations back to an antagonistic square one except that Kim was able to rassle a photo op with a US President (well, technically a US President) before humiliating him by reneging on him.

If Trump doesn’t call Kim a liar, he’s basically locked in to lift the sanctions, and NK still wins.

It’s a lose-lose for Trump. Guy got played badly.

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I do believe Trump just got himself checkmated. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2018 OP
Surprise, surprise, surprise Phoenix61 Jun 2018 #1
He needs to be removed from office Generic Brad Jun 2018 #2
He sure did. But we figured that would happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #3
The Art of the Squeal world wide wally Jun 2018 #4
Uh huh.. & The Art of the Keel Cha Jun 2018 #10
...he got played BIGLY! BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #5
I'm convinced he is doing all of this to please Putin. BadgerMom Jun 2018 #6
He changes his story on anything every two minutes struggle4progress Jun 2018 #7
Checkmated twice in the same game, Re: war games Rustynaerduwell Jun 2018 #8
And a photo op that should work against Republicans in the midterms LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #9
And like a good sting, the Mark doesn't realize he's been had. no_hypocrisy Jun 2018 #11

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
2. He needs to be removed from office
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jun 2018

He is clearly incompetent, anti-American, and an unnatural tone of orange.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
6. I'm convinced he is doing all of this to please Putin.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:12 AM
Jun 2018

Putin may or may not have compromising material on him. I think it’s the Rosneft deal that motivates his treason.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
7. He changes his story on anything every two minutes
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:27 AM
Jun 2018

It happens so often it's impossible to keep track of it

From a political POV, the only reasonable assumption is: he's not all there. From a legal POV, we should assume he's deliberately wandering the streets naked except for his bunny slippers, in order to avoid a future trial

We get no benefit right now from one single analysis

Rustynaerduwell

(665 posts)
8. Checkmated twice in the same game, Re: war games
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:29 AM
Jun 2018

If they go on , he lied and he loses any trust from any adversarial country anywhere in any future negotiations. If they're cancelled he loses any trust from any allied country anywhere in any future negotiations. And either way, he's lost a good deal of respect from the very military of which he Commander-in-chief.

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