OMG - Love you Ted Lieu - To Nielsen..." I don't give a shit if you apologize.."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Link to tweet

[Sanity Claws]

1. Yes, Ted, call them lies. That is what they do -- lie, lie, and lie again.

[lagomorph777]

53. Not "untruths," "misleading statements," "incomplete answers," falsehoods..."

All those MSM euphemisms, excuses for the LYING Reputin Party are so worn-out.

Call them LIES. Period. LIES.

[Solly Mack]

2. Next they'll tell us how all the footage and photos are fake news and then say...

But here, let me show you footage and photos of how wonderful the children are being treated.

The cat is (still) both dead and alive even when the cat is out of the box - according to Trump logic.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Evidently Trump Jr. "liked" this tweet - 'Kids were coached.." !!

Link to tweet

[Solly Mack]

8. Oh, well. Breitbart/Coulter. Soon they'll explain how by separating the children

and putting them in cages that Trump is saving them from Clinton's Pizza Parlor sex trafficking ring.

Alex Jones will be over the moon.

These people are completely out of their minds.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. When is good gonna outweigh evil SM ??

[Solly Mack]

17. I'm not convinced it ever really does. More a case of having to constantly push back against it.

There are times when some of the most blatant forms go back under the rock, where it becomes all moldy but still thrives - and still leaks out.

Then someone comes along that kicks the rock over and spreads the mold everywhere.

We have to follow it back to its rock and destroy it there.

[pangaia]

48. It only does when everybody jumps on the scale.

So.


JUUUUUUMP !!!!!

[Midnight Writer]

61. I watched this on Foxnews last night. She also announced her new book is about to be published.

She was on with Jason Chavetz and Kimberly Guilfoyle (apparently Don Jr.'s new paramour).

The super conservative host and whole panel went silent for a second, and then continued without questioning Ann's claim.

[Beartracks]

62. "... because that's what WE would do," insist Reublicans. n/ t

[olegramps]

69. Just another brainless bleached Trump bimbo getting in line to be molested.

[democratisphere]

3. This WH needs a new cabinet position: Secretary of Lies and Propaganda Management

When they are tripping and falling over their own lies and propaganda something has got to be done!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. hmm.. they could hire us ! would be great fuel for campaign against them nt

[Xipe Totec]

13. The Ministry of Truth nt

[lagomorph777]

54. Minitrue

As in Minimal Truth. Or none at all.

[pangaia]

18. The Glavlit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union

The main Soviet censorship body, Glavlit, was employed not only to eliminate any undesirable printed materials, but also "to ensure that the correct ideological spin was put on every published item". In the Stalin Era, deviation from the dictates of official propaganda was punished by execution and labor camps. In the post-Stalin era, these punitive measures were replaced by punitive psychiatry, prison, denial of work, and loss of citizenship. "Today a man only talks freely to his wife – at night, with the blankets pulled over his head", said writer Isaac Babel privately to a trusted friend.[1]

[LiberalBrooke]

45. They have one

It is called their communication dept.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

56. New cabinet: goebbels/trump propaganda ministry

Possible candidates for minister/secretary that have valid hate racist bigoted propagandist and LIAR credentials: stephen miller, sarah huckabee, john kelly, kellyann, pence, paul ryan, ricsantorum, steve bannon, s. gorka..anyone of them would match Joseph Goebbels hateful, vile evilness.

As we know, Joseph Goebbels was a German Nazi politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945.

[awesomerwb1]

4. Wow. Holy moly

Go Ted Lieu!

For a representative to use that language publicly is not very common. He's pissed as we all are.

Be outraged, and get active people. IT'S UP TO US.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. YES. I heard Adam Schiff say he was outraged like he was ordering a tuna sandwich. nt

[Wwcd]

9. Seriously? Have you listened to Schiff's remarks at all?

Schiff: White House using migrant kids’ grief and tears to build border wall

Schiff was referring to a "zero tolerance" border policy imposed by the Trump administration earlier this year that separates immigrant children from their parents while the parents are prosecuted.

Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, also said that the GOP has "become the party of lies" by not calling out President Trump's falsehoods.

"The GOP in Congress has become craven enough that they will do anything to maintain the majority, even be complicit with a president who ignores and tears down the rule of law," Schiff said.
They cannot maintain their integrity as a party if they follow this president," he added.

It's an effort to extort a bill to their liking in the Congress. It's, I think, deeply unethical," he added.
Sounds like more than your degrading tuna sandwich comment.
He has been consistantly quite vocal on this & most every atrocity presented by the fake Admin.

Perhaps choose one of the many other Senators or Reps who are dead silent, in your rightful need to name names.
Rep Schiff has been consistant in his vocal criticisims of trump.

[JI7]

12. Since people just want to be entertained as if it's some reality show

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Wow. Of course I have heard him. Only pointing out that he says all the right

things - but without demonstrative passion. I am sure he totally feels it - just looking for noticeable high emotion - anger - passion.

[Wwcd]

21. "Tuna sandwich" that's your comparison? Because he's not saying it

with enough "passion" to stir the emotion, is hardly a "tuna sandwich."
Dang.
Low blow to one of our more vocal Reps.
He has been opposing & calling out Trump consistantly. Which is more than I've heard from many others.
Why target Schiff?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. It wasn't really like that at all. Just saw him yesterday and I immediately

noticed his blan tone - that is just his personality. He is great otherwise. I want someone on TV that screams passion and evokes outrage in people over this situation. When he said it - he didn't change his tone from anything else he was saying.

Not trying to throw shade on him promise. Sorry

[Wwcd]

50. I've heard those loud passionate voices, full of podium pounding yet when you listen to their words,

it is redundant, repeated catchy one liners taken straight from the pages of twitter & FB.

Loud & passionate, fist pounding & red faced with no substance is just as much a tuna sandwich .

[Beartracks]

63. Except that it's a more effective and satisfying tuna sandwich...

... to the political consumer.

========

[Wwcd]

65. Yes, like a temporary fix.

[lagomorph777]

55. Schiff does have a bland delivery.

But behind the scenes he's pulling the right strings to keep these clowns jumping. If I were facing him in a courtroom, that tone would creep me out, big time.

[ehrnst]

26. Would you like your reps to spend valuable time learning to sound more angry for you?

Or only if they are men?

Women reps who sound angry are often called "shrill."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. Oh geesh. Pile on. Ridiculous. Talk about THEM bullying. Did I say anger? nope. Talking

only about passion

[ehrnst]

36. This is your post, right? You said:

but without demonstrative passion. I am sure he totally feels it - just looking for noticeable high emotion - anger - passion.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10749144


Don't cry "bully" when you are called out on your own words...

[LiberalLovinLug]

52. I'll back you up

I think you are 100% correct.
And I don't even actually think it SHOULD be necessary to have to emote more emotion in a perfect world. But we are fighting an enemy that can turn it on and off like a lightbulb. They have perfected the art of fake outrage. And in this day of infotainment and reality shows, Trump and his minions understand the power of drama and passion, while a lot of Dems still are living in the '90's. Yes, Obama was a great orator. My gawd the comparison of answers and deduced reasoning given to the press on a particular decision by 44 vs. 45 is jaw dropping. Yes, calm logical reasoning is still something to be admired, but America has been pulled kicking and screaming, into this new shock n awe reality TV culture war, and if we don't at least match their phony outrage with our own, even if we (through our reps) have to 'act' against our own generally reserved personalities, in order to use the meta communication of our time, then it must be done. Its about communication.

[Wwcd]

59. The bigger point was your demeaning name calling of Rep Adam Schiff

Why Schiff, who has been a constant vocal pain in Trump's backside, when there are many others who are constantly dead ass silent.

I applaud Schiff's calling out of this entire admin for the entire time they have been squatting in our House.

Schiff is NOT the one to derride here.
Thats the Point.

[Wwcd]

58. Thank you.

Why target Schiff of all great voices. Dang.

[sprinkleeninow]

46. ❓❓

[Blue_Adept]

10. I'd rather see Democratic senators and reps demand that she resign

She's proven to be incapable of telling the truth about one of/the largest departments of the government.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Guess we can't demand anything. Totally agree though. Pruitt's still there too.

[Blue_Adept]

19. We're just too nice. Republicans demand resignations if the wind blows their pants the right way

I'm not in favor of that either but damn there's a lot of people that should be told to resign for what they're doing.

[CakeGrrl]

29. Republicans get more help from MSM amplification

They have a blast megaphone courtesy of Fox News, and they're guaranteed to get coverage everywhere else to maintain a charade of 'balance' and 'debate'.

Nonetheless, Dems should do everything they can to consolidate their message.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Yes you are right ! But it's not even about being nice. Valid reasons to call out

people and actions.

[ehrnst]

27. We could ask our reps to demand weekly that everyone in the administration resign.

By week three it will be old, and pointless.

[Wwcd]

23. Problem is, they're ALL incapable & underqualified

Starting with dotard

[Blue_true]

14. She is such an evil asshole. Want to know what female Nazis were like. Look at her and her deeds.

[pangaia]

22. Irme Grese. Here ya go.

About as evil as they come.

She was hanged for her troubles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irma_Grese

Grese and two other concentration camp workers, Johanna Bormann and Elisabeth Volkenrath, were convicted along with eight men for crimes committed at Auschwitz and Belsen and sentenced to death. As the verdicts were read, Grese was the only prisoner to remain defiant.[16] Her subsequent appeal was rejected.

The night before her execution, Grese sang Nazi songs until the early hours of the morning with Johanna Bormann.[17] On Thursday, 13 December 1945, in Hamelin Jail, Grese was led to the gallows. The women were executed singly by long-drop hanging and then the men in pairs.[18] Regimental Sgt. Maj. O'Neill assisted the British executioner, Albert Pierrepoint

[Blue_true]

39. Wow. Thanks for the history lesson. What an evil true believer Nazi Irma was. nt

[pangaia]

49. There are quite a number of republican women with whom Irma could be compared.

it is frightening.

Then there is the male side.. but that's for another discussion. (I just added that sentence to ward off those lurking and ready to pounce on me for berating women.)

[lunatica]

20. She's "Just doing her job"

[GeoWilliam750]

24. Do you mean,

"Only following orders"?

[lunatica]

25. Exactly

Just like Adolph Eichmann

[mwooldri]

33. Exactly. She can push back you know....

From what I understand that the ruling comes from the DOJ, and DHS is choosing to enforce it.

She, Sessions or Trump can shut this child abuse down right now. She's choosing not to.

[fierywoman]

38. Isn't she the female cabinet sec'y who got ripped to shreds by drumph a couple

of weeks ago in a WH meeting?

[lunatica]

44. Yes. It was because she wasn't doing her job of

Securing the border. This time she’s making sure Trump is happy.

[fierywoman]

57. She's a disgusting c---

[lunatica]

60. My thought exactly!

[IronLionZion]

40. And she gives orders

and her people have to follow her orders.

But most importantly, she told us we can't believe what we see in the press. Our own eyes lie to us as much as the liberal media.

Don't worry. Everything is going to be all white.

[Gothmog]

28. Yeah for Congressman Ted Lieu

[Anon-C]

30. Believe it or not I supported the creation of DHS in the wake...

...of 9/11 just as I joined the military. I thought it only logical in a networked world and comparisons to fascist institutions in history were hyperbole.

What the fuck was I thinking?

[dalton99a]

31. Beautifully stated

[Achilleaze]

32. Why all the lies from republicans?

Why do republicans piss on the truth?

[pangaia]

51. New forum rules.

No more asking WHY ?

[duforsure]

42. She'll smell of this stench

Where ever she goes for the rest of her life.

[paleotn]

47. Since it was created,

I've always thought "Homeland Security" sounded a bit too fascist for my taste. Turns our, I was right. We've got our own little SS / SA running around. Next thing you know, "border guards" will be smashing people's windows and burning churches they don't like.

[blake2012]

64. Perfect. Attack these motherfucking monsters 24/7

[orleans]

66. ...as an aside--a looksie to see who voted for her

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/s305

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

67. What Ted said.

Little miss thing is in wayyyy over her head.

[VOX]

68. There's the high road, but damn it feels good to punch back.

In fact, taking the high road is risky luxury, now that politics have given way to an all-out culture war. You take whatever road is available, high or low, if the desired goal is to drive the fascists out of power, before they further destroy the remnants of our democracy.

America has divided against itself before, and it's doing it once again. There's no quick finish to it, and no idea as to how hot it might get.