UPS tracks 15 million packages a day and the Feds can't keep track of 6000 kids and their parents?

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Total incompentance. This is so fucked up!

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3. Could you elaborate on that?

[Sophia4]

10. When we lived in Europe (for quite a number of years), we lived in various

places including rather close to the Iron Curtain. There were repeated reports of people trying to escape across that Iron Curtain to the West. I specifically remember the story of a man who was an officer in the army who flew across. The Iron Curtain was not a wall so much as it was barbed wire with gun turrets above (like those used by hunters in the Alps) and mines in some places if not all places between and around the barbed wire fences. The Iron Curtain was not nearly as much of a barrier as Trump's wall would be It kept dissidents in their countries and people from other countries out.

There is quite a history of ridiculous walls and fortifications in Europe that may have delayed a bit but did not stop wars and repression.

For example, Carcassone. The fortifications of medieval castles are a bit laughable by today's standards but even they could be overcome by determined armies.

Another more recent example is the Maginot Line in France. It was a series of bunkers along the border between France and Germany. I visited what remained of one once long ago. Of course, the Germans invaded France in WWII by circumventing the Maginot Line and entering through Belgium.

Walls do not prevent entry from foreign armies and countries. But they do prevent exits from the country they surround.

The US can be reached by sea as well as by land. Is Trump going to block entry from the oceans?

The idea is absurd.

We need to learn more about and deal with the problems in the countries from which so many of these refugees are coming.

[pnwmom]

14. I think you meant to reply to the OP about the wall, right? n/t

[pnwmom]

20. But what does your post #1 have to do with the OP it replied to, about UPS tracking packages? n/t

[Sophia4]

32. Sorry. I thought I was responding to a post about Trump's wall.

I will remove my posts.

[procon]

22. Start with the Romanian Orphanages, a horror inflicted on children after the

old USSR collapsed.

[raging moderate]

2. That's IT! Ask the USPS to reunite the families!

They could open a special service! These people have me convinced that USPS should run the world, anyway! They are always so kind and competent!

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5. An eighth grader, with a 5 year old computer could do it it.

[jberryhill]

4. As long as you don't mind putting barcode stickers on them

People on DU object to using ID wristbands.

If you want to keep track of them, then you need some way of identifying them which will remain on them and stay on them to allow that to happen. I don't think, say, issuing ID cards is going to satisfy those functions.

So, what would you propose as a reasonable tracking mechanism?

[Ellipsis]

7. rfid bracelets. would do just fine.

[jberryhill]

11. Um.....

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210657156

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15. I'm am guilty of watching the latest episode of "Elementry"

It was a plot point.


I remember when Tommy Thompson was going to embed an rfid chip in his body as a publicity stunt because he was affiliated with some company... and then for some reason he renigged..

[htuttle]

9. Dabbawalas in Bombay deliver about 200,000 lunches from people's homes to their workplaces each day

WITHOUT computers.

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12. Thanks for reposting.

[htuttle]

13. The other thread vanished

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17. I posted it in an unintended forum.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

27. Mistakes happen.

And Don't I know it.

[pnwmom]

16. I wouldn't have minded wristbands. They use wristbands to match parents and babies

in every hospital nursery.

OTOH, a yellow wristband with no identifying information on it would be worthless.

[mnhtnbb]

19. Hospitals use ID bracelets.

Solves the problem of "dog tag" military style necklaces that soldiers wear which could be given to older kids but wouldn't work for younger ones.

[PJMcK]

6. UPS, FedEx and the USPS care about where their packages are en route

Trump & Co., not so much.

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8. Its a "Goat rodeo" to coin the phrase.

[shanny]

29. ...

Goat Rodeo

A situation that is hopelessly fucked up. The worst of three stages of goat-ness. First is the Goat Rope, US military (specifically Air Force military transport) jargon ca. 1970s-1980s, referring to an operation or undertaking involving an unnecessarily large number of people, most of them contributing nothing or actually impeding progress.

Then there is the utilitarian Goat Fuck. This normally requires a serious amount of work to unfuck.

Lastly, there is the Goat Rodeo. The worst of the three, it is beyond even profanity. It describes a situation that involves many individuals screw ups, and implies that the fuck up is already well underway, meaning that there is no hope in stopping the mess.

h/t Urban Dictionary

Personally I think we are even beyond goat rodeo.

[matt819]

21. Well

I’m sure they considered tattoos but someone in the wh had a vague recollection that that might be such a great idea. I’m a little surprised they didn’t go the chip route given the animal theme this vile excuse for a human being has been perpetuating

[dem4decades]

23. I'm surprised Stephen Miller hasn't suggested giving the parent

And child matching tattoos and making them wear gold stars so they can keep track of them better.

[Ellipsis]

24. Nosferatu?

There a dude with some issues.




He needs to go.

[lunasun]

25. They misspell and put wrong dates in ..some out of spite ...others out of stupid

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35. I'm sure they took their pictures

Facial recognition software.

Just a simple database search.

[ananda]

26. This was deliberate.

They just didn't want to bother because
they thought people would get behind it.

This is the most malicious kind of stoopid
I have ever seen!

[Hekate]

28. The kids are shuffled among 3 enormous federal bureaucracies, none of which were prepared ...

...to take them in, much less coordinate with each other.

Watch the pea while I shuffle these 3 cups...

The kids are lost, accidentally on purpose.

[ck4829]

30. That's because it's a feature, not a bug

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31. In the Glossary of the original Macintosh manual - Feature defined.

Feature - a bug defined by the marketing department.

They spent all this time lining up vendors ( and probably no bid vendors) to hop on this gravy train to get rich from confinement services and no doubt slave labor.

But nothing on reuniting family. It's evil. It reminds me of all the profiteers who kept their mouth shut at the local village next the concentration camp.

Over 700 per night per person at these tent camps... why not just put them up at Trump tower and get a group rate.

[brooklynite]

33. Have you TRIED to put a tracking sticker on their foreheads?

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34. Yeah I know ...ear tags maybe?

I've got an order in for 7000 rfid wristbands for 91 cents each with Alibaba.