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It doesn't work. Go here and watch these, then rec the post. This is why we loose, they are fighting a different fight and they are winning.
https://democraticunderground.com/1017497492
ck4829
(35,091 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)TomSlick
(11,109 posts)Besides, I've convinced a couple.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)if they have any brains in their heads, we are a nation of immigrants, a melting pot, they are playing the victim that they are entitled and superior to other races of people, and feel that any ethnicity is out to get them. Fuck them.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Pessimistic divisive disengagement discouragement posts like yours.
0rganism
(23,970 posts)i remember back in 2016 i was damn sure we were gonna win it all with Hillary Clinton guiding our ship of state steadily into an enlightened future. felt good back then. sometimes things just don't work out that way... i wouldn't count those particular chickens just yet. there's a lot of time between now and November and the levers of power are entirely held by the ruling party. we'll see.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Rejecting defeatist frames based on propaganda in a time of crisis is not.
brush
(53,871 posts)Hillary got 3m more votes and the election was stolen.
Eko
(7,360 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Mockery, not meek negativism and fear, is the answer to their timeless stupidity.
Eko
(7,360 posts)When I said they were winning what did you think I meant?
Eko
(7,360 posts)Are you saying I exhibited those?
LisaM
(27,835 posts)At some level, the more sane Republicans must know the truth, but they're at the doubling down stage.
Pauldg47
(640 posts)... And compare to what Fox news says..then I ask them if they think an outside nation is more objective. But I do tell them the definition of objective first.
This evening, I went to pick up a pizza from a place close to the house. (I live in Austin, TX.) We order from them about once a week. As I approached the register to pay, I look over and see one of the teenage employees behind the pizza station wearing a red maga hat. I pay for my pizza, go out to my car, and dial the stores number. I asked to speak to the owner (I knew she was there because she chatted me up while I was paying for my pizza.)
I told her I bought pizza from her store practically weekly, but I would not buy any more if she let her employees wear maga hats. I come there for pizza, not politics. She told me to hold on while she investigated... She got back on the phone and apologized, she said she didnt even notice and that it wouldnt happen again. I politely thanked her and hung up.
Fuck those red hat wearing assholes. I hardly ever see anyone with one of those ridiculous pieces of shit on their head. I think they must be embarrassed at this point. They should be.
Judi Lynn
(160,630 posts)0rganism
(23,970 posts)i feel I should plug the author/narrator right here
Innuendo Studios: https://www.youtube.com/user/mrskimps
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I merely give them the correct opinion. If they persist in error, that's not really my problem.
LSFL
(1,109 posts)If they do not know enough history to see what ultimately happens to their ilk, that's not my problem.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)As a 2010 Boston Globe article made clear: http://archive.boston.com/news/science/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/
And controlling the narrative is crucial. It's a mistake to think that most will recognize the folly, for instance, of the "liberal media" narrative that's been allowed to dominate for several decades. Because of that, reversing that narrative is beyond challenging.
Even though facts backfire, it's imperative that Trump's daily propaganda be countered for the sake of those who are not super savvy, those who aren't inclined to support Trump but don't pay close attention to politics. Before they come to accept what Trump and other Republicans spew.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)They persist because they think we are pushovers. Arguing? Truth saying. Speak truth and don't back down. They run.
Eko
(7,360 posts)0rganism
(23,970 posts)you might not be playing the game you think you're playing, and you could be inadvertently helping their cause
this is one reason i linked them in the first place - they contain both explanations and warnings for hazards seen and unseen
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)and energy I SAY FUCKEM, and that is all I will say!