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demmiblue

(36,896 posts)
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 07:46 AM Jun 2018

Thread: Stop whatever you're doing and read the @WhiteHouse plan for complete reorganization of...



Stop whatever you're doing and read the @WhiteHouse plan for complete reorganization of the entire federal government. I have tweeted some highlights, but honestly can't begin to capture the horror.
Overall, it privatizes a lot, cuts, & consolidates power.
whitehouse.gov/wp-content/upl…

Under the Plan, the govt sells off the US Postal Service, FAA, eliminates more than a 1/3rd of the US Public Health Corps, restructures all foreign aid & development programs, and places every single domestic program for poor families & children under a single welfare authority.

The Plan also offers a real estate bonanza for developers, selling off federal properties en masse. And it cuts or restructures all the fedl progs that are meant to educate people about their financial rights & protect them from bank & mortgage fraud.

The #Trump plan cuts R&D @NASA and all forms of alternative energy development are consolidated under a single DOE agency. A Dept of Welfare is created, and all forms of support for health of America's poor leave @HHS & go to new Welfare authority.

The Plan facilitates "streamlined" privatization of federal assets via a Customer Experience (CX) Improvement Capability.
It transfers all background/conflicts checks on fedl appointees and employees AWAY from @FBI and into the Dept. of Defense.
whitehouse.gov/wp-content/upl…

Net impact of the #Trump govt reorg scheme is taking everything across govt that is for poor & needy people and consolidate it under single budgetary authority, cut science all over the place, eliminate the Census Bureau, reduce regulation &, as this closing shot shows, #MAGA .

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Thread: Stop whatever you're doing and read the @WhiteHouse plan for complete reorganization of... (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2018 OP
MSNBC is too busy for this. They're interviewing Tom Arnold. n/t manor321 Jun 2018 #1
LMAO LuckyCharms Jun 2018 #3
People constinue to not come to the realization that the Republican Party is the Fascist Party. olegramps Jun 2018 #20
Yeah PatSeg Jun 2018 #22
If we fail to take power in the House & Senate, Wwcd Jun 2018 #2
Then Trump will build walls PatSeg Jun 2018 #37
He will. Wwcd Jun 2018 #49
damn heaven05 Jun 2018 #4
MORE: demmiblue Jun 2018 #5
somebody has thought this through in great detail.... tomp Jun 2018 #11
Exactly. This is Putin, Bannon, Miller and whomever level. pangaia Jun 2018 #13
it seems like a wish list from america's corporate class. tomp Jun 2018 #15
That is true also. It is a perfect storm of gangsters and fascists. pangaia Jun 2018 #17
Lyin' Ryan, Mercer, Kochs, etc. There are lots of them Ilsa Jun 2018 #54
Cliven Buddy???? Takket Jun 2018 #19
This is exactly my line of thought SujiwanKenobee Jun 2018 #31
kook brothers/heriturd fuckdation not fooled Jun 2018 #36
That was my first thought as well PatSeg Jun 2018 #38
the Kochs / ALEC et al shanny Jun 2018 #52
This makes the Blue Wave more important than ever to block this scam. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #6
They intend to push this and more through shanti Jun 2018 #51
K&R. n/t ms liberty Jun 2018 #7
Only Congress can "reorganize" departments BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #8
Yes, you're correct. MontanaMama Jun 2018 #21
The Senate is where it would die. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #40
They will do this before the election. AJT Jun 2018 #34
They haven't even been able to pass their own, GOP-crafted "immigration" bullshit BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #41
Thank you for that post BumRushDaShow...my heart was beating fast. c-rational Jun 2018 #35
Horror story to the max... Guilded Lilly Jun 2018 #9
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #39
Nicely said! VOX Jun 2018 #46
Just what Bannon envisioned. He told us the plan was to blow it all up. Here it is. PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #10
President Dick Tater Generic Brad Jun 2018 #12
Read this, read this, read this! hatrack Jun 2018 #14
Looks like the Heritage Foundation wish list Submariner Jun 2018 #16
Not surprising, they've been pushing towards this for 20 years bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #18
Meanwhile, Congress wants to drastically cut Medicare and Medicaid to pay for their tax cuts LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #23
You live in Palm Springs? i heard it was a very red area. MariaCSR Jun 2018 #24
Palm Springs was conservative when I signed up with DU (hence my member name) but LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #47
That's so cool. I've always wanted to visit Palm Springs. MariaCSR Jun 2018 #56
Palm Springs is now VERY liberal. The other desert cities... VOX Jun 2018 #50
That's what's up! MariaCSR Jun 2018 #57
Well, if this is how you write BEFORE coffee, you should do it more often! PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #28
On your USPS question- It is an independent agency of the US Government Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #48
Thanks for the clarification. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #53
Just doing his boss' (Putin) work Botany Jun 2018 #25
Don't panic. drray23 Jun 2018 #26
Even so, we underestimate this monster at our peril. His ability to manipulate public opinion calimary Jun 2018 #29
Republican congress's base will be yelling the loudest to implement this death-blow to democracy. VOX Jun 2018 #45
More Fuel for the Democratic Party Message-Republicans Don't Believe in Democracy dlk Jun 2018 #27
Just so everybody is clear on it, this it not (just) Trump... JHB Jun 2018 #30
I, for one, am tired of all this winning, as was predicted. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #32
That looks a lot like what the Russians did Turbineguy Jun 2018 #33
We have to stop this MFM008 Jun 2018 #42
This MBA-speak-fever-dream looks like plans for an Ayn Rand theme park... VOX Jun 2018 #43
Repugs want to get this in the daylight to start selling it. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #44
PUTIN WINS AGAIN BadGimp Jun 2018 #55

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
20. People constinue to not come to the realization that the Republican Party is the Fascist Party.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jun 2018

Their goal for the last forty years is the establishment of a Authoritarian Presidency in conjunction with the rule of the oligarchs. This is not a nitwit conspiracy claim, but one the is solidly backed by facts.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. If we fail to take power in the House & Senate,
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jun 2018

American's will be the world's new refugees fleeing their country, passports in hand & a carry on. .

Where will we be welcomed?

Predict a mass exodus to somewhere..

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. damn
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:16 AM
Jun 2018
IF this 'reorganization' happens, this country and a huge number of people are FUBAR. The poor, babies, growing children and seniors hurt the most and a lot will be starved to death and denied medical care, I imagine. The RW NPAaka GOP hates the poor and their "entitlements". Did I mention I worked 50+ years for my "entitlements"? Vets will be hurt as these evil fucks dismembers and sells off the VA. All the monies derived from this 'reorganization' will go straight into some predatory capitalist's pockets. No doubts. This is what putin and the deplorable trump base/constituency has wrought for all decent americans.

demmiblue

(36,896 posts)
5. MORE:
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:20 AM
Jun 2018


It's impossible to overstate the impact on Americans' lives if this @Whitehouse masterplan for transformation of US govt goes into effect: whitehouse.gov/wp-content/upl…

1.) Food safety moves out of @FDA to @USDA so ag/food industry can self regulate. Call it Fedl Food Safety Agcy.
MORE

[cont] 2.) Depts of Labor @USDeptLabor & of Education are eliminated. A new Dept. is created to regulate all labor, framing children's education as a teacher/labor issue.

[cont] 3.) Eliminate @HHSGov Health & Human Services. Split out all "welfare" related programs like food aid and child support. Create a new "welfare" agency governed by a special council. Merge in food & nutrition prgms from USDA. All family support prgms from all agencies merge

[cont] 4.) Replace @HHS with the Department of Health & Public Welfare (DHPW). This aims to "ensure that policies are applied consistently across all programs, potentially reducing confusing, complex, and sometimes
contradictory requirements across programs." [more]

[cont] 5.) Establish a Council on Public Assistance that oversees all giveaway programs to children & families, consolidating the politics & control of everything that is deemed "welfare" and "subsidies" for the poor under one powerful authority. {More]

[cont] 6.) Create a single public works agency. Eliminate Army Corps of Engineers & infrastructure agencies now in Dept. Transportation & Interior. Pull all under one umbrella, outside of DOD budget.
[MORE]

[cont] 7.) Eliminate the rural housing subsidies used to aid farmers & rural Americans now under @USDA. Put all under @HUD Housing & Urban Development w/focus on real estate sales & rentals programs. Improve opps for "Private-sector partners."
[MORE]

[cont] 8.) Consolidate all oceans, rivers, lakes & marine life conservation and fisheries management programs into a single authority, stripping existing ones from @EPA @USDA Dept of Commerce and give Dept of Interior total control.
[MORE]

[cont] 9.) Reinterpret the Comprehensive Environmental Response Compensation & Liability Act of 1980, and strip all toxic/waste clean-up programs from current authorities. Put it all under @EPA Superfund program.
[more]

[cont] 10.) Eliminate all humanitarian assist progs @StateDept & @USAID . Replace w/single agcy inside USAID: "to achieve strategic, coherent & seamless responses that best achieve our foreign assistance & policy goals & maximize our leverage & the value to the US taxpayer." MORE

[cont] 11.) Consolidate all development assistance aid overseas, "such as OPIC & DCA, in a reformed & modernized way to leverage more private-sector investment, provide strong alts to state-directed inits, create more innovative vehicles to open and expand markets for US firms"

[cont] 12.) Complete "structural reform" of @USAID, top2bottom to reduce costs & do "a significant re-envisioning of USAID & its potential to support U.S. national security, foreign policy, & economic goals while effectively managing & overseeing taxpayer-funded programs."
MORE

[cont] 13.) Reinterpret the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, allowing creation of a single personnel authority to oversee, manage, hire & fire all non-military federal employees.
MORE

[cont] 14.) Create a single agency responsible for all "veterans cemeteries" -- stripping authority from the Armed Forces, Dept. of Interior etc. This would place military grave sites and Civil War battlefields like Gettysburg under one agcy.
MORE

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1010200880556146688.html

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
11. somebody has thought this through in great detail....
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:51 AM
Jun 2018

...and it wasn't trump. Who, exactly, prepared this program?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. Exactly. This is Putin, Bannon, Miller and whomever level.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jun 2018

Th8s gas been in the works a long long time.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
15. it seems like a wish list from america's corporate class.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jun 2018

I would not be surprised if lobbyists were involved. That's why I asked "who, exactly?"

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
54. Lyin' Ryan, Mercer, Kochs, etc. There are lots of them
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jun 2018

that want to set up a government that doesn't believe in Science or research, etc, only corporatism and profits. I would expect corporations to be able to kill off people, even their own whistleblower managers, with impunity.

SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
31. This is exactly my line of thought
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jun 2018

Seriously, if one wanted to research who put together all the points in these documents to uncover the influences and direct beneficiaries, who served on the writeup committee etc. where would one start? Is this sort of information hidden from the public in general? I don't like the trend of nameless blanket statements wherein the perpetrators can remain hidden. We really need to make sure that the light of day hits all the dark corners so there isn't anonymity. Let's make a point to expose the people who are behind the policy outrages– private persons, public figures, senators and congressmen who suggest and have access to such, aides, businesses. I'm sick of being swept along by outside forces and in ignorance of the humans behind it all. Trumps period is also the time to expose all corruption and harmful thinking so that it can be clearly seen for what it is.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
36. kook brothers/heriturd fuckdation
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jun 2018

they have had this ready and waiting in the wings.

I know MANY Federal employees who voted for the orange monster because they were askairt of a wummen President and believed all the garbage faux and vlad crapped out. Wonder how they're feeling now?

They thought I was a radical lefty for warning them--over many years--that this was the end game for the pukes. Well, not the end game, it would get even worse. pukes of course want to get rid of even more of the Federal government.

And, if in power long enough, the fascists will scour every *personal* email and social media post of EVERY Federal civil servant + use the database the kook bros have amassed on EVERY American to root out anyone who votes Dem/opposes donnie, then fire them.

The civil service was deliberately designed to be nonpolitical. pukes want to make it serve at their whim.



PatSeg

(47,608 posts)
38. That was my first thought as well
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jun 2018

In spite of the appearance of reckless incompetence, there are people behind the scenes who have a well thought out agenda. Trump is just the bumbling, outrageous puppet, put there to be a distraction.

BumRushDaShow

(129,526 posts)
8. Only Congress can "reorganize" departments
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:38 AM
Jun 2018

The Executive Branch has little say over that outside of internal, existing departmental reorgs.

Article I
Section 8.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

<...>

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
21. Yes, you're correct.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jun 2018

But I think congress will do tRump/Putin’s bidding I’d we don’t regain significant control. The KGOP is okay with internment camps for kids, why not this?

BumRushDaShow

(129,526 posts)
41. They haven't even been able to pass their own, GOP-crafted "immigration" bullshit
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jun 2018

particularly given the fringe RW nuts in the House, let alone even consider any type of major "reorganization of the federal government". And notably also because of the near even split in the Senate.

Remember that McCain is essentially gone and Democrats picked up a seat in a special election meaning the split in the Senate is basically 50 GOP and 49 D + I.

We will be lucky to even have appropriations (or even a CR if douche insists on vetoing one) before September 30.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
9. Horror story to the max...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:40 AM
Jun 2018

While there is always room for better organization and shifting of administrative duties in a gigantic body of governing, this agenda of the Republicans has been to favor, benefit and funnel money to already rich callous white men and their obsessive greed driven corporations for the benefit of themselves and the detriment of everyone else.
Their intolerance, fear, disrespect, bigotry, cruelty, misogyny and racism know no boundaries. Their character is void of any decency or humanity. They don’t even bother to hide it anymore under the guise of fucked up patriotism and Christianity.
They are the worst of human wretchedness.

While it is always good to know they will all eventually die and turn to dirt, the misery and terror they create or try to create for everyone and everything on the planet will never stop.

Obviously they must be stopped.
Obviously a lot of us will be sickened and soul battered in the process.
Obviously we need to get passionately angry and
REFUSE, RESIST and REVOLT.
With every ounce of our strength and courage.
Everyday.
Against all the mountains of insanity and incredulous ignorance, meanness and hate.
Against the dozens of WTF moments that pile up in unbelievable amounts daily.

The offensiveness and stupidity knocks the air out of my heart and brain several times a day.
I have to slap myself out of agonizing anxiety and disbelief and sadness after every outrageous new headline.

The domestic terror perpetrated by this administration is overwhelming.

I’m not a powerful person. I tend to avoid conflict and my nature is to draw myself into whatever protective sanctuary is nearby and huddle for awhile.
But I am stubborn.
And very angry.
And I am my sisters’, brothers’, children’s, all creatures great and small, all things bright and beautiful’s keeper.
So is every DUer here and lurking.
There is power there.
And we have “numbers too big too ignore”
REFUSE RESIST REVOLT

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
10. Just what Bannon envisioned. He told us the plan was to blow it all up. Here it is.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:40 AM
Jun 2018

If this comes to pass, our country won't even be recognisable anymore. This is a fucking horror show.

Seriously, Mr. Mueller? You HAVE to shift gears sir. (while there's still anything left to save)


VOTE!! If you're not registered to vote, do it today!

Find a candidate/candidates to support. Send money if you can.





bucolic_frolic

(43,305 posts)
18. Not surprising, they've been pushing towards this for 20 years
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jun 2018

Time to hunker down, raise capital, and leave ... if we don't grab power in November to stop this.

23. Meanwhile, Congress wants to drastically cut Medicare and Medicaid to pay for their tax cuts
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jun 2018

for the rich. Call it Paul Ryan's parting f*ck you gift.

After that's done, they'll go after privatizing Social Security, forcing people to invest in administration-approved stocks which have no guarantee of increasing in value and whose price swings are subject to random comments made by the most psychotic president in the history of the United States.

The thing is, the Deplorables will yell and cheer for these changes, which will only hurt them, their children and their grandchildren. #MAGA

If Drump and his minions are able to accomplish this radical remake of the U.S. government to favor the rich and hurt the middle class and poor, the question becomes: what are they going to do next? We already know they want to suppress the vote until the Dems will never be able to hold a single Congressional or state seat ever again, want to annihilate the Voting Rights Act (which they've gotten a good start on, thanks to Scalia, may his soul rest in hell), privatize all public lands -- including the national parks -- and eliminate all clean air and water regulations. The administration has a fantasy about regulating the print, broadcast and internet media, and is well on its way to making it impossible for new watchdog news websites to take hold on the internet because of the end of net neutrality. They'll definitely throw red meat at their evangelical base -- mandatory Christian prayer in school, elimination of teaching evolution, turning churches into Super PACs where unlimited tax deductible donations can be made to support candidates (nearly always right wing). Gay marriage will once again be illegal, gays and transgender people will be kicked from the military. The few remaining restrictions on guns will be eliminated. FDA regulations will be curtailed and eliminated. The Space Force will result in a globe circled with nuclear tipped missiles with the ability to strike a target in seconds and not minutes (right now it takes 20+ minutes from launch detection until impact). The Emoluments clause of the Constitution will be gutted even more than it is now.

Christianity will be declared the official religion of the U.S., and English will be declared the official language. We will have "language police" as they do in Quebec and France. The alt-right, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis will continue to crawl out from under their rocks, and some will be elected to positions of responsibility.

All immigration -- except for the "right people", as defined by Trump -- will be eliminated. We will become the most isolated country in the world, with only our BFF Israel left as a friend. Of course, Putin will still call the shots.

These are only the things they have said they want to do, or are already doing. My question is, if they accomplish all their goals, what new hell will they dream up next?

Question re: USPS -- I thought it was already a private entity, and its biggest problem is one the Republican Congress created for it, which is to require it to have available an account with 70 years of retirement funds, an amount not required by any other agency. Absent that, it's the only profit-making entity in the federal government.

Elections matter, and to those who stayed home or voted third party in 2016, thanks in advance for the world you are creating. Just to remind everybody of Jill Stein's role in this mess:



Hillary warned us about every single atrocity Trump was going to accomplish, but her emails...

Sorry for the early morning rant. I'm still enraged about the babies and kids in Trump's concentration camps, and I haven't had my coffee yet.

Oh, one last thing: Once he gets this year's "Parade for My Ego," Donnie Two Scoops will want a bigger one next year, and an even bigger one the year after that. Just FYI.

47. Palm Springs was conservative when I signed up with DU (hence my member name) but
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 12:29 PM
Jun 2018

as the elderly population died off a large number of gays and lesbians discovered and inhabited P.S., mostly due to the annual White Party. It is definitely more liberal now -- our last mayor was a lesbian. It's a small thing, but it wouldn't have happened 20 years ago when I moved here.

Where downtown was once the home of T-shirt shops, it's full of art galleries, antique and vintage clothing boutiques, and a variety of upscale restaurants, which have replaced the local Hamburger Hamlet. There are several film festivals each year, including the Palm Springs International Film Festival that Sonny Bono started when he was mayor. If it didn't get to 115+ degrees on a regular basis throughout the summer, it would be a perfect place to live.

Actually, I now live in Yucca Valley, 30 miles north, 4,000 feet above, and 20 degrees cooler than Palm Springs. It's the land of meth labs (we will hear one explode occasionally), the Marine Corps Combat Training Center (we hear a lot more explosions from there), and of wall-to-wall tattoo parlors. If you are over 18 and under 70 there's a 75% chance you have a tattoo somewhere on your body. Last month I had a 60-year-old woman show me her tramp stamp -- and a good portion of her butt crack -- at the student store at the local community college. Being of the older generation, my wife and I are tattoo virgins.

We can see Joshua Tree National Park from our kitchen window. When I first lived here, the Park was still designated as a Monument, and got about 400,000 visitors a year. You could go wander around it for hours and not see another person. Since it became a National Park, however, annual attendance has skyrocketed to 4 million visitors. You may as well be in Disney World.

Overall, however, it's pleasant here. We live away from the city so we have coyotes, quail, jackrabbits and bunnies wandering around our property continually, and one afternoon we opened the back door to find a bobcat laying up against our screen door, snoozing. While it's no longer designated as a Dark Sky City due to L.A.'s smog creeping in, you can still see the Milky Way once your eyes acclimate. It's a far change from when I lived in L.A.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
50. Palm Springs is now VERY liberal. The other desert cities...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jun 2018

Tend to be a bit more conservative: Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert and especially Indian Wells (the Kochs have held several annual meetings there). But our congressional district went Democratic (Raul Ruiz, MD) in 2012, due to the large number of Hispanics, LGBT folks, and get-out-of-Los-Angeles types like my wife and me. And all of these groups intend to keep it BLUE.

I haven't even seen any Trump bumper stickers around here. I did spot one some two years ago, and that guy was just passing through town.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
48. On your USPS question- It is an independent agency of the US Government
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jun 2018

So it is a government agency still. But it exists on its own, outside of any executive agency. So essentially they are self-running and managing without the direct control of the President.

It operates in many ways like a private company. But at the same time it enjoys many benefits of being a government agency that a private company wouldn’t have- its law enforcement branch are actual federal law enforcement officers. It has a federal law giving it a monopoly on delivering first class mail and also over use of your mail box- you own your mail box but the law says that only USPS can put anything in it. They are exempt from property taxes on facilities, fuel tax, vehicle registration fees, and most other taxes.

And while USPS employees are supposed to follow traffic laws they are immune from prosecution for any state or local laws. It’s a tricky place if a cop can do anything against the USPS if they break the law, if it’s a violation against the driver they can write the ticket, and USPS may leave it to the driver to pay if they deem them having not followed the rules (like speeding) or if it’s one from something like blocking traffic during a delivery they may claim immunity as it was an act in the drivers official duties. Anything written against the vehicle owner, like parking tickets or red light cameras or equipment violations, USPS has full immunity from any fines or penalties.

Botany

(70,588 posts)
25. Just doing his boss' (Putin) work
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jun 2018

I have no doubt about it that Trump is working to destroy America.

Get rid of the EPA, get rid of the Dept. of Education, get rid of the
Labor Dept., scrap programs that help people in need, set up secret jails
for babies and children, stoke divisions along ethnic lines, weaken
NATO, praise dictators and insult our friends, start trade wars, lead
the mentally weak in cheers of "lock her up" about a political foe even
though she is not guilty of anything, and then meet w/his boss, Vlad Putin,
who wanted all this done in order to weaken the United States.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
26. Don't panic.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jun 2018

Only Congress can do things like creating or shutting down agencies. Given that the repugs can't pass anything we should be able to stop it. If they did pass it in the house it would get killed in the Senate.


calimary

(81,507 posts)
29. Even so, we underestimate this monster at our peril. His ability to manipulate public opinion
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jun 2018

will be the death of America.

And anyone who just thinks we can wait for Congress to prevent this needs to remember that if Congress is infested with republi-CONS, all it will do is lie back down and become a doormat.

VOTE, DAMMIT! NO EXCUSES!!!!!!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
45. Republican congress's base will be yelling the loudest to implement this death-blow to democracy.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jun 2018

They will be repeatedly “informed” by state-TV’s star/guru Hannity, about how this will destroy liberalism/progressivism, and how great things could be if this privatization shopping list were fulfilled.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
27. More Fuel for the Democratic Party Message-Republicans Don't Believe in Democracy
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jun 2018

They want to enact a Kleptocracy. We can't sit by and let that happen. Thieves, liars and crooks never take a day off. Decent Americans must remain vigilant, always.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
30. Just so everybody is clear on it, this it not (just) Trump...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jun 2018

This is Movement Conservative Wish List stuff. Get rid of the things that help ordinary people, and make sure you can squash anyone who gets uppity. Restore the Gilded Age! The rightful form of government is like a banana republic: A small circle of wealthy elite, a larger tier that services them, and a sea of peons.

Look for Heritage Foundation fingerprints all over it.

And hey, look! There they are:

Muhlhausen, David B.
“Blueprint for Reorganization: An Analysis of Federal Departments and Agencies.”
The Heritage Foundation, June 2017,
https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/blueprint-reorganization-analysis-federal-departments-and-agencies

Muhlhausen, David B.
“Blueprint for Reorganization: Pathways to Reform and Cross-Cutting Issues.”
The Heritage Foundation, June 2017,
https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/blueprint-reorganization-pathways-reform-and-cross-cutting-issues


It's not "Trumpism" folks. It's Republicans. It's conservatives, even the ones who call themselves "NeverTrumpers". This is their goal, and they see their big chance to grab all the marbles.

GOTV. It's up to all of us to stop them.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,571 posts)
32. I, for one, am tired of all this winning, as was predicted.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jun 2018

Let's call a time out, then surprise the whole world by punting on first down.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
43. This MBA-speak-fever-dream looks like plans for an Ayn Rand theme park...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jun 2018

To be laid down over what was formerly known as the United States of America.

This is some serious shit. Which of Trump’s group of social misfits conjured up this 100-megaton turd, and committed it to paper?

Note that there are a lot of “rearranging furniture” proposals here, and my guess is that’s to provide cover for the numerous, genuinely heinous power-grabs included in this catastrophe-waiting-to-happen.


KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
44. Repugs want to get this in the daylight to start selling it.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jun 2018

As others have said, this is their dream scenario and they've had many years in darkness to develop it via Heritage, ALEC, Chamber of Commerce and other right-wing orgs funded by Koch, Mercers, Adelson, et al.

In my view this should not have the presidential seal on it, but instead the logos of all right-wing orgs that developed it.

This thing is very complex and we need strong voices to counter it bit-by-bit and obviously need control of Congress.

GOTV and our checkbooks!!.......

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