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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor those who say calling actual nazi's nazi's is not ''useful'' for civil discourse....THIS
And This
And This
Godwins Law no longer exists
We all need to be like Winston! (without the misogyny and racism of course! He was after all very much of his time!)
Just sayin'
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)not on it's way here! I shake my head daily at the lack of an aggressive response from the Party I support and the media. I feel helpless with no help insight!
I know people have a hard time focusing, but the average people going after these people directly does as much harm as good.
The people we SHOULD be going after is our own. We are failed, time after time after time by our elected and party officials coming to a knife fight with gift bags.
THEY are the people who have to nut up and say what needs to be said.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Nitram
(22,907 posts)Nitram
(22,907 posts)Phoenix61
(17,020 posts)Every repuke senator, rep, and cabinet appointee. They should be hounded, picketed, publically shamed every minute of every day. There are so many more of us than there are of them but we play nice and fade into the background. We have got to stop that. It's time to step up front and center and confront them.
onecent
(6,096 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)The snowflakes cry foul!
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... media and dems to make sure they don't forget why they were hit.
lostnfound
(16,192 posts)People say the purpose is to rile up his base. He can rule them up with NFL tweets or anti media slogan or demonizing democratic leaders. He didnt have to go to the trouble of prepping internment camps for kids.
If a madman wants to follow in the footsteps of Hitler, he cant jump straight in and start rounding up all who oppose him. He has to keep normalizing the destruction of peoples lives and rights.
When he said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue, he was giving us the script.
Now, he is giving us a preview.
They are considering space on army bases for 100,000 detainees. Or more. With ability to add another 10,000 per month. Abandoned airfields.
This idea was hatched over a year ago. Test cases a prototype of "zero tolerance" were run from July to November 2017, near El Paso.
For the good of the country... putting enough immigrant families in camps on military bases and its an easy step to start including other groups of people. Rebels, organizers, labor activists, the usual suspects. Then disappearances...
His base is learning the tune, getting them used to a new set of glasses. Look at it this way..
With him pushing for removal of a right to trial prior to deportation/incarceration in one of these internment camps, it lays the groundwork for snatching up citizens.
We already see it happening now- the dehumanization and the vilification of the left, the press, critics of the administration. These rallies where Trump screams about "enemies of the people" are him sticking his big fat orange toes in the pool to see if its temperate enough for his fascist plans.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Fuck it. And fuck any milquetoast types not liking my attitude. These people want us dead and Im not rolling over and making it easy for them.
Exotica
(1,461 posts)Brilliant
VOX
(22,976 posts)And creating false realities. Never in my life have I heard so many LIES issue from one mans hideous mouth in 500-plus days.
And yet he gets pass after pass. How can this be? If you or I pulled one just ONE of the numerous assholic shticks in his repertoire on OUR jobs, we would have every reason to figure that the head of our human resources department would be at our office doors within 15 minutes of the act.
At the moment, #45 is the freest man in the United States. Apparently he can say or tweet however/wherever he pleases. He can talk about locking up his PAST political opponents, and how the free press is the true enemy; hes destroying diplomatic mechanisms that took years to finesse, and instead, hes rubbing elbows in photo-ops with the worlds dictators; and for Christs sake, hes actually started in with a serious fascist agenda, regardless of the cost to desperate families and their children.
What will it take to stop this murderous, destructive monster? How do you pry him out of office? Vote him out, yes, absolutely. But will there still be free and fair elections in the U.S.? In the back of your mind, is there a little nagging fear that the elections will be interfered with, just as they were in 2016? Given whats occurred already, is that such a far-out idea?
Vote, damn the doubts. Vote in such massive numbers that any tampering would just be swept away with the current. Vote as if your life depended on it. Because it very well may.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)the civility advocates/whiners say. Do you? 21st century Nazi this administration is and will always remain.
HAB911
(8,921 posts)Butterflylady
(3,552 posts)Step sister ( her dad was the only one that survived and remarried) said that the dotard reminds her of Hitler and she should know. Been saying this before the election.
Botany
(70,607 posts)A horrible thought has now lodged in my brain. Please tell me where I'm wrong.
Trump's press "event" yesterday where he blamed Hispanic immigrants/refugees
for murders and crimes ....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44580964
... is no different from Hitler blaming the Jews for Germany's loss in WW I.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/6852245/Adolf-Hitlers-hatred-of-Jews-stemmed-from-First-World-War.html
"The core of his hatred lies at the defeat of Germany in WW1," said Mr Riecker, "where Hitler blamed the Jews for defeat of the country, the collapse of the monarchy and the ruination of millions"
dhill926
(16,370 posts)they know exactly what they're doing...they are following the script...
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)...the Nazi fuckers lost.
They will sit on the wrong side of history again - let us hope though that it does not take as long as last time
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Thank you.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,160 posts)To do otherwise is to make ourselves complicit.
keithbvadu2
(36,950 posts)Trump hotel rebranding for his tents.
guss
(239 posts)They are their own Evil and deserve a new title.
Traitors
Prof.Higgins
(194 posts)actions will merely put Democrats in a "pissing contest with a skunk". Yes, we must keep strongly protesting when Trump lies and contradicts himself, and Democratic Party leaders must speak in concert against Trump actions which are demonstratively incompetent, divisive, cruel etc.. But calling Trump a Nazi will not persuade Independents to vote against him anymore than the FoxNews propagandists calling Obama a commie or socialist or Sarah Palin accusing him of "palling around with terrorists" persuaded enough people to vote against Obama.
As a case in point. The photos of Nazi concentration camps would have been equally analogous to photos taken in 1942 of internment camps for our Americans with Japanese heritage which was perpetrated by the most economically progressive President of them all. FDR also had to bow to his Deep South Democrats who provided FDR with a Congressional majority, so he made little progress against segregation. It was Truman who finally integrated the U. S. military and Ike who finally sent the 101st Airborne to force the integration at Little Rock Central school. FDR also sought to stack the Supreme Court when it was curbing his powers. Nor was the Democratic Congress or FDR's major Cabinet appointments a source of pride for women's equitable representation.
Of course, FDR was an admirably liberal capitalist, and Trump is an extreme rightwing capitalist with racial attitudes that are in line with FDR's Deep South Democrats. Trump is not a fascist dictator, which is proved by the existence of our free press and websites with forums like this one, uninhibited sardonic mocking of Trump's words and actions on commercial television evening talk shows, and the slowly turning wheels of our justice system via Mueller's investigations combined with our upcoming elections.
Obama succeeded with "Don't boo. Vote!" The Democratic Party won't succeed now by calling Trump names that are easily debunked. We will defeat Trump by behaving like mature patriots with our gigantic peaceful marches and with our way, way stronger election GOTV campaigns. Winning is the best revenge.
Exotica
(1,461 posts)Raine
(30,541 posts)totally agree!
AllaN01Bear
(18,519 posts)guss
(239 posts)The Banning of certain Immigrants to stop taking our jobs, to stop crime, and influencing the elections.
While those in Government power.
Take foreign money and influence their Vote and promote agendas. and to aid their camps.
To get them elected.
We are looking at propaganda to distract us from who is the real threat to Democracy.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)KKK, white supremacists, skinheads, ....all need to be attacked back.
Cha
(297,785 posts)#RESIST
Bears repeating......again and again. These fuckers are nazis.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I think twitter needs to shut down his account, somehow his fav mouthpiece to rile the base etc needs to be shut down.