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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 03:56 PM Jun 2018

Trump's North Korea farce is now plain for all to see

By Jennifer Rubin
June 26 at 1:15 PM

President Trump assured us he had removed — not just diminished, removed — the North Korean nuclear missile threat. He’d done what no other sitting president had done, namely met with the North Korean dictator. (He thinks this was an accomplishment, not realizing Kim Jong Un had gotten what no other president would give away — the stature of the United States — without sacrificing anything.)

Trump aides and sycophants insisted the propaganda coup for Kim, Trump’s slavish praise for the brutal human rights criminal, Trump’s indifference to his reign of terror, etc., were all worthwhile because we had gotten “something.” Oddly, the agreement marking the end of the Singapore summit looked like an even more watery version of the thin gruel we had gotten from past meetings. There were some generic promises about denuclearization, but the “verifiable” and “irreversible” parts of complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization (CVID) were not in the document, an omission that when pointed out sparked a snippy retort from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

None of that mattered, because we are now on the road to CVID, right? Actually, we are nowhere; the diplomatic process has not even begun. And we have no timeline.

CNN reports:

In an exclusive telephone interview with CNN to mark his first two months in office, Pompeo said he wanted to see continued progress toward North Korean denuclearization, a promise leader Kim Jong Un made to President Donald Trump at their June 12 summit in Singapore. But the top US diplomat, Trump’s point man on North Korea, declined to set a deadline by which he wanted to see the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea make visible steps toward that goal. Pompeo has said in the past that he wanted to see full North Korean denuclearization before the end of Trump’s first term in 2020.


Even worse, we have now redefined good-faith negotiation as no negotiation:

“We hope that we will have an ongoing process of making progress,” Pompeo said Sunday.

Referring to Trump’s decision to suspend US military exercises in the region, Pompeo said that “the President was clear. Each of the actions we have taken, his decision to suspend the high level war games, it’s only so long as there is a good faith negotiation progress, productive results being achieved. If we can’t do that, if it turns out that there is no capacity to deliver the outcome that both presidents said they wanted, yeah, we reassess.”


We “will have” a process. Someday. We hope. Do we think Trump will ever declare that his new friend Kim is not acting in good faith? That would require admitting he was snookered in Singapore. We are very early in the “process,” as diplomats like to say, but thanks to the president proving himself such an easy mark, the entire “maximum pressure” strategy has been turned on its head. We’re back to trusting that nice words bring real negotiations and CVID.

Talks with North Korea without a timeline are more of the same diplomatic quicksand we’ve been through before. The only difference is now Kim knows Trump won’t use military force and is unlikely to ramp up economic sanctions because he “trusts” Kim. (This makes the Obama crew look downright Machiavellian in their handling of Iran; at least President Barack Obama and then-Secretary of State John F. Kerry had the good graces to repeat that, because we do NOT trust a rogue state, we need ample verification.)

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Trump's North Korea farce is now plain for all to see (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
good tear-down, but nothing compared to what we'd see if obama had done this. unblock Jun 2018 #1
Rachel pointed out that last year Putin "suggested" to Trump to stop the military exercises. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #2
For his supporters, all he has do do is say he did it. Turbineguy Jun 2018 #3
Yup gratuitous Jun 2018 #4

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1. good tear-down, but nothing compared to what we'd see if obama had done this.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jun 2018

imagine if obama or hillary had given photo-ops to a charter member of the axis of evil, put their flag on the same level as ours, told our military to stand down, abandoned an ally, elevated north korea as a world power, and all in exchange for weaker lies than they have already broken in the past.


seriously, if a democrat had done this their heads would have exploded.

2. Rachel pointed out that last year Putin "suggested" to Trump to stop the military exercises.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jun 2018

The fact that Trump did not talk to his SOS, Secretary of Defense, or anyone else that this extreme policy change would affect before he unilaterally made the concession to NK speaks volumes to who is really running the show in our country. He even surprised our allies (Japan and South Korea), who have the most to lose from this new edict.

Hillary was right when she told Donnie Two Scoops to his face at a debate that he was Putin's puppet.

BTW, his main argument is that "war games" cost too much. He should check out how much unpreparedness costs, e.g., Pearl Harbor.

Also, regarding cost: We don't have enough money for training but lots of money for his big military parade to feed his ego. And if he gets to do a parade this year, he'll want one twice as big next year.

gratuitous

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4. Yup
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jun 2018

If Trump comes out snorting about Kim not negotiating in good faith, he'll put a gloss on it that makes it Obama's fault or congressional Democrats' fault. His supporters will gobble down that bullshit with an extra big spoon, and the news media will feel like they have to repeat whatever Trump's ranting about, with analysis or critical insight put off for days, weeks, or forever, whichever comes first.

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