So, Now You Want Civility?

[Skidmore]

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/06/26/so-now-you-want-civility/

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

After voting for a self-proclaimed genitalia-grabber.
After he suggested dissenters at his rallies should be beaten up.
After hearing him call violent nazis “fine people.”
After he bulldozed sacred Native American lands and turned frigid hoses on tribe elders.
After he ignored mass deaths in Puerto Rico and vilified their public servants.
After he began dismantling protections to our planet and shrinking our national parks.
After witnessing Flint, Michigan go without clean water.
After watching exhausted refugee families stranded at airports.
After leveraging religion to justify all manner of discrimination.
After ignoring evidence of a Russian interference that threatens our national sovereignty.
After seeing ICE raids in hospital rooms and workplaces.
After his gross, reckless fabrications about Muslims and Mexicans and immigrants.
After witnessing him work tirelessly to take healthcare from the sick and the poor.
After he vilified kneeling black athletes and badgered their employers into silencing their peaceful protest.
After his unhinged Twitter rants against private citizens and their businesses, against celebrities and political opponents and world leaders.
After terrorizing teenage shooting survivors on social media.
After allowing the radicalized Christian right and soulless NRA gun zealots to shape national policy.
After sanctioning Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka and Jeff Sessions.
After retweeting the toxic filth of Dana Loesch and Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter.
After celebrating while he’s alienated our greatest allies and aligned with malevolent dictators.
After your silence in the face of migrant children being ripped from their parent’s arms and placed in dog kennels.
After digging in your heels for the past two years on every bit of it.

Now you want to pretend to be civilized?
Now want to talk about measured debate?
Now you want to wag your finger at us for being disrespectful?
Now you want to shame us for our supposed lack of manners?
Now you want to gaslight us into guilt and apology—as if we’ve lost our dignity, as if we’ve sacrificed our humanity, as if we’ve bastardized our religion, as if we’re the ones impervious to other people’s feelings.

With all due respect—to hell with your phony civility.

No, you don’t get to play that card. That request is off the table for you.
You lost that moral high ground somewhere between excusing his mocking of a disabled reporter—and celebrating brown-skinned kids in cages.
Your lengthy, sickening body of work over the past two and a half years is the greatest witness of your fraudulence.

You don’t really want civility, anyway. That’s not what you’re asking for. If you were simply asking for that, we wouldn’t have an issue.

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[smirkymonkey]

1. K&R

They can all go to hell!

[alwaysinasnit]

2. How can we get Pelosi and Schumer to read this?

[zentrum]

46. Bill Clinton has chimed in that

…..he thinks Sanders responded with dignity and handled it respectfully. Oh my. Did he have to do this considering what we're up against and the deeper meaning here?

[chesterslick]

53. Change the subject fast...

.... or the "Terms of Use" cops will show up!

[world wide wally]

3. We ARE being civil

Just wait 'til we get rude, asshole

[ChubbyStar]

36. I Love You

[geardaddy]

48. This!

[femmedem]

4. Fuck civility.

I say that as someone who rescues feral kittens, is known as the sweet one in the family, and has been a lifelong goody goody.

[DemocracyMouse]

49. With that comment above, now I KNOW we'll have a bkue tidal wave

...but everyone in DU myst be get-out-the-vote leaders. No rest until we've gotten every Democrat to the polls Nov 6.

Basta!

[malaise]

5. K &R

Great OP

[ffr]

6. Get thee to the greatest section.

Speaking truth!

[Wellstone ruled]

7. Thank you,hope Pelosi and Schumer get this.

[Fritz Walter]

8. Talk to my pitchfork!

Just in case someone gets the vapors over this post (and decides to report me for being too extreme), I find using the pitchfork on my compost very calming. Especially when I imagine that the compost includes MAGAts.

[Woodycall]

11. I've been thinking about fiberglass pick handles lately myself n/t

[alwaysinasnit]

13. Speaking about pitchforks

Your post reminded me of a prescient article I read some years ago regarding "pitchforks." If you are interested, here is the link

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014

[OxQQme]

34. A quote from alwaysinasnit's link:

A 0.01%'er speaking to his network of business owners about taking care of the worker segment:

>"The oldest and most important conflict in human societies is the battle over the concentration of wealth and power. The folks like us at the top have always told those at the bottom that our respective positions are righteous and good for all. Historically, we called that divine right. Today we have trickle-down economics.

What nonsense this is. Am I really such a superior person? Do I belong at the center of the moral as well as economic universe? Do you?

My family, the Hanauers, started in Germany selling feathers and pillows. They got chased out of Germany by Hitler and ended up in Seattle owning another pillow company. Three generations later, I benefited from that. Then I got as lucky as a person could possibly get in the Internet age by having a buddy in Seattle named Bezos. I look at the average Joe on the street, and I say, “There but for the grace of Jeff go I.” Even the best of us, in the worst of circumstances, are barefoot, standing by a dirt road, selling fruit. We should never forget that, or forget that the United States of America and its middle class made us, rather than the other way around.

Or we could sit back, do nothing, enjoy our yachts. And wait for the pitchforks."<

[Fritz Walter]

39. Also available in video

I have posted this to DU a couple of times in the past.
Always worth watching again... especially now.

https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming

[Initech]

9. Amen! Fuck their civility!!!

[eleny]

10. Hey right wing, here's your civilty right here...

..... .....

[heaven05]

15. i love it

just right for the times

[Honeycombe8]

12. Yeah. It's too late for civility. They think Dems are wusses. Weaklings.

Won't stick up for their causes. Get their feelings hurt.

If that's what they think, because Dems were trying to be civil in a civil society, were trying to go high...they think wrong. I hate confrontation. But we have to stand up to what's happening, since the politicians aren't.

[heaven05]

14. BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onecaliberal]

16. I wish I could rec this a million times.

I'm done with republicans or anyone in the media telling me how I should behave and what I should say or not say. I'm with Maxine.

[Paladin]

17. Fuckin' Bulls-eye! K&R.

[Gothmog]

18. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet

[KY_EnviroGuy]

27. Another good follow-up Tweet...

Zac Petkanas @Zac_Petkanas

Today just feels like a battle axe is being taken to the structural underpinnings of the post-World War II liberal democratic order that has prevented the resurgence fascism...

...and we're talking about whether we're being too impolite to those wielding the battle axe.

.............

[Moostache]

19. Well said...I go for the more direct approach...

FUCK YOU Trump.
Just fuck you...

[aquamarina]

20. And PLEASE don't forget to add to your horrifying list

the time he mocked the disabled reporter.

Trump is an abomination to humanity.

[dae]

21. Pavlovitz tears Trump and his Christianists each and every day

never letting up.

[mnhtnbb]

22. Pavlovitz is pissed. Been reading him for quite a while. He really goes after this issue.

And he's right.

The gloves need to come off.

[Fullduplexxx]

23. Awesome list thanks

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

24. K & effing R...

Shared on fb

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. To sum it up, I present the Liberal Redneck...

Obligatory warning(s):
...Some sexist language
...Un-PC
...NSFC (Probably)
...NSFW (Definitely)
There. You're on your own...

[KY_EnviroGuy]

26. I would add one to that list....

"After lying about the citizenship of our last President and supporting those who demonized and stonewalled him in office for eight solid years."

Civility.....NO.........

[LW1977]

28. K&R

[marybourg]

29. Maybe what they really want is political correctness

[apkhgp]

30. You have a way with words

We need to have more of these insightful editorials. To highlight the absurdity of the White House Press briefings. Those briefings have marked how low an administration sink all the while claiming that it is not being treated fairly.

Civility...only when the stench of your administration has been eradicated.

[Cha]

31. Exactly, Skidmore.. these media types asking

for politeness from Dems are full of shite, too.

[dalton99a]

32. Kick

[Mc Mike]

33. It's a psy op. Pure and simple.

Trying to stagger us mentally.

[ChubbyStar]

37. Time to take the training wheels off their bikes

Stupid fuckers will wobble into a ditch.

[Mc Mike]

47. I hear you, CS. nT.

[CaptainTruth]

35. Damn...

THIS is what I want to hear from Democrats! The future of our country is at stake. Act like you fucking care!!!

[DoctorJoJo]

38. Had I Been the Red Hen Owner, I would have handled It Like This:

"Ms HuckaSanders, my staff is upset that you are here, but I overruled them and told them you were welcome." Then I'd tell the staff to express their feelings by preparing their food with their disdain in mind!

[BlueJac]

40. K&R

[Soxfan58]

41. Nice!!

[Orsino]

42. What they want is unilateral disarmament.

Not a lot, necessarily--just enough to help them get away with a few more abuses. History says they'll get it, too.

[lastlib]

43. I. Don't. Make. Nice. With. Fascists!

EVER.

[ck4829]

44. K&R

[VOX]

45. Agree with every word, except "With all due respect." The only thing "due" to these criminals...

Is a goddamned dank prison cell.

But we all know how that will turn out. A few lieutenants will be nailed, but the top dogs? They will get easy time at the absolute worst. It's more likely that they won't get nailed at all. It's the deck, it's just fixed to play out that way.

[ck4829]

51. Due...

Process.

[VOX]

56. YES! Without due process, we'll go full-"Lord of the Flies."

Not ready for that just yet.

[mehrrh]

50. Hear! Hear!

He says it all.

[CrispyQ]

52. Let it start at the top.

It will be impossible, though, because the man is vile & vulgar beyond words—the worst kind of human, totally self-absorbed, lacking any empathy or compassion.

[coeur_de_lion]

54. Maxine on civility

[link:

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[Beartracks]

55. They demand one-way civility. n/t

[ThoughtCriminal]

57. Like "Class warfare", the "War on civility"

is only called a "War" when we fight back.

[Stuart G]

58. k and r....Thank You for posting this...no text

[NY_20th]

59. Kick

[Wolf Frankula]

60. We Heard this Civility crap during W's Administration.

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Democrats should be 'civil', polite, bipartisan, wishy-washy and weak. Democrats should reach across the aisle and be inclusive and bipartisan when they are in power, and kiss ass and be cooperative when in opposition. Scroo dot gobbidge! We are in opposition. The purpose of an opposition is to OPPOSE. Let's OPPOSE!

Wolf