Even Using Birth Control Will Be A Felony Or Murder In the End W/SCOTUS Appointed By Trump.

[TheMastersNemesis]

A fully Trump court will make the concept of "personhood" constitutional. Personhood as a national standard is the avowed goal of the religious right. Under such a policy ANY interference with reproduction would be considered illegal. What most Americans do not understand is that the religious right is in agreement with Catholic doctrine that makes even using condoms forbidden.

Everyone says well it could never bet that extreme. Yet we have Trump and the prospect of having a fully white supremacist theocratic court that would support religious government.

Trump has pretty much said he will give the religious right whatever it wants.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Likely would revive the Comstock Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_laws

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. Precisely.

[Volaris]

26. If they take away the Average Republicans Voters porn,

They WILL have a problem on their hands lol

[Honeycombe8]

27. Not obscenities.

Republicans like their porn and their mistresses.

Think of it as anything that inhibits the freedom of women. Porn objectifies women, so it's safe. Birth control pills work to free women, so they are in danger of at least being restricted. I don't see that other methods of birth control, like diaphrams, can or would be stopped.

[safeinOhio]

2. The rich will go out of the country for theirs.

Just like the old days.

[TheBlackAdder]

3. Rick Perry cut some abortion access and he reversed it when it immediately led to 7,000 pregnancies.

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These states can not afford the explosion in births to their already stressed state and local tax structures.

These are not just births that will occur, but a long-term $19,000/year tax liability that lasts for almost 2 decades.



Right now, there is a constant birth / death equilibrium within states, and this will tamper with the birthing side.

As each year goes by, these extra births will slowly pyramid, until it hits the 18-year mark, and by that time, the state and local budgets will be multiple billions of dollars more that what the projected totals would be today.

Imagine having tens of thousands of additional births added to a state support system and local school-base.

Most of them are already moocher states, but there is only so much CA, NJ and NY can bail them out with socialism.


Problem: Nobody wants to mention this reality for fear that it "puts a price on the cost of a life," but it is a reality.

Fiscal conservatives want to pretend these additional births are some divine order, but will be extremely conflicted when the bill starts to really come due in 5-6 years, and by that time, they will be almost a billion dollars in perpetual annual debts.

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[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Make sure the Cons know that blocking abortion leads to many more Democratic births. . . . nt

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. Under Personhood Even A Dead Fetus Must Be Carried To Term.

[Runningdawg]

32. It would be more accurate to say

A mother who experiences a failed pregnancy will die from sepsis. Or bleed to death. Either way the term will not be completed.

[Skidmore]

6. This is the goal of the religious right

and supremacists. Forced pregnancy. You could see it coming for years.

[Orsino]

19. Thing is, the more power the GOP steals, the less they actually need the RR.

GOP Congresscritters and judges who pander to the ultra-rich are obviating their jobs and the need for votes. We're not at that point yet, but the goal has always been direct and hereditary rule by the wealthy. The Jesus has always just been an excuse. The oppression of women and minorities has only shown us how they'd treat the rest of us, if they could.

And could just got a bit closer.

[keithbvadu2]

28. Pro-life is a myth.

Pro-life is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared not when the state of Texas (republican gov) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control

[Tipperary]

8. Oh please.

[MichMary]

9. +1 n/t

[mythology]

11. Yep.

[onenote]

18. +1

[TheBlackDahlia]

10. Personhood

I think it is important to note here that Antonin Scalia, historically the Court’s leading conservative figure, believed with regard to rights such as abortion rights that they were neither constitutional or unconstitutional, but rather that they were a constitutional because the text simply did not address such issues. This conservative philosophy of limiting the power of the courts and constraining the influence of judges is an appealing concept to supporters of liberal policy. If the judges in the conservative majority follow in Scalia’s footsteps, the personhood concern ought not be a legitimate concern.

[MariaCSR]

12. Welcome to Gilead.

[ehrnst]

13. Yep. (nt)

[mercuryblues]

14. Under GWB

They tried to relabel birth control as an abortifacient. The religious right, believes even condoms are a sin. If they can outlaw abortion, they will be going after birth control. They will never stop.

n a spectacular act of complicity with the religious right, the Department of Health and Human Services Monday released a proposal that allows any federal grant recipient to obstruct a woman's access to contraception. In order to do this, the Department is attempting to redefine many forms of contraception, the birth control 40 percent of Americans use, as abortion. Doing so protects extremists under the Weldon and Church amendments. Those laws prohibit federal grant recipients from requiring employees to help provide or refer for abortion services. The "Definitions" section of the HHS proposal states,

Abortion: An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. There are two commonly held views on the question of when a pregnancy begins. Some consider a pregnancy to begin at conception (that is, the fertilization of the egg by the sperm), while others consider it to begin with implantation (when the embryo implants in the lining of the uterus). A 2001 Zogby International American Values poll revealed that 49 percent of Americans believe that human life begins at conception. Presumably many who hold this belief think that any action that destroys human life after conception is the termination of a pregnancy, and so would be included in their definition of the term "abortion." Those who believe pregnancy begins at implantation believe the term "abortion" only includes the destruction of a human being after it has implanted in the lining of the uterus.

https://www.alternet.org/story/91654/white_house_tries_to_define_contraception_as_abortion

[FreepFryer]

15. Discouragement force in full force. Not gonna work. (n/t)

[mountain grammy]

16. Yes, I think you are right about this..

and we all know this has absolutely nothing to do with the "sanctity of life" bullshit. It's about controlling women's behavior. Always has been.. welcome to the dystopian future. Men must be in charge, but they can't grow life and they know it.

[dlk]

17. Currently, Many Churches Teach that Birth Control is Murder

These are treacherous times for American women.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Let me grab my crystal ball

People become so hardened by the cutthroat, survival-of-the-fittest, social and economic Darwinist Ayn Rand Paul Ryan World that they stop having sex. It all winds up in divorce court anyway, the men hollowed out financially and surrendering the house, the women emotionally traumatized because the fantasy went *poof!*.

Thus population growth slows because there aren't as many kids, which dampens the economy permanently but good. Awash in pollution from political policies, leading starkly unhappy lives, and unable to detox their bodies with exercise or happiness, cancers proliferate. Endless treatments are available for those with upscale health insurance, but for the masses, not much at all.

Eventually population begins to shrink. An economy built for growth implodes financially as every accounting debt must be wiped off the books in some fashion. We enter the Dark Ages, Bible in hand, afraid to articulate the truth about much of anything.

If you think it can't happen, did you think the last 18 months could happen? How about this month of June?

[cannabis_flower]

21. And probably be like

El Salvador where you can be arrested for having a miscarriage. Especially if you aren't at the hospital at the time. There have been cases of women having a miscarriage at home and then going to the hospital and them calling the police and you being accused of inducing an abortion or somehow cause your miscarriage and being arrested for murder.

[Glorfindel]

23. A favorite quote from Thomas Jefferson

In a letter to Baron von Humboldt, 1813: "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

I fear this country is headed in a very dark direction.

[keithbvadu2]

29. Religion and politics use each other to gain wealth and power.

[appalachiablue]

31. Yesterday I thought of that in Central America. A young Indian woman in the US

a few years ago was arrested and got time I think because authorities claimed she had searched miscarriage meds online. Another news story in the Midwest maybe, about a young pregnant woman who was willing to have her baby and went to a routine doctors visit where she was asked about her general health. The woman mentioned she'd briefly used a drug, meth maybe but stopped quite a while ago. The staff contacted the police on the basis that she could be a danger to the life of her child. I don't recall the outcome of that case.

[IronLionZion]

22. GOP waits until people are born before destroying their lives and murdering them

see the public executions of several black children and adults, and the imprisonment and separation of undocumented immigrants families from their children.

These practices will only become worse as Trumpism continues.

[Amimnoch]

24. Looking less and less like a work of fiction.

If you need me, I'll be with my husband hanging from one of the walls, hood w/ pink triangle accessory included.

whomever 45 and this congress selects, one thing is certain, that person won't be a "swing decider".

So glad that her emails, and "oligarch" ways was enough for so many to decide to sit it out.

[lapislzi]

25. With more than 30 state houses in the bag

A constitutional amendment is a distinct possibility. The good news is, constitutional amendments are often agonizingly slow.

All the more reason to fight like hell for state houses. All of them. Dems should do to every state house what the GOP has done to NC. Make them bullet-proof.

Nice of them to write the playbook for us. Pity we didn't pick it up sooner.

[keithbvadu2]

30. Sign up all republicans and supposed pro-lifers to adopt babies so they won't be aborted.

Sign up all republicans and supposed pro-lifers to adopt babies so they won't be aborted.

How many can we count on you and your church to adopt?