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Nazi violence in Portland Oregon. (Original Post) triron Jul 2018 OP
Of course , the cops seem to be taking the Proud Boys' side. backscatter712 Jul 2018 #1
Rage Against The Machine FTW! Initech Jul 2018 #4
Nazi punks fuck off! Initech Jul 2018 #2
Good grief shenmue Jul 2018 #3
Antifa pretty much got their asses kicked Alea Jul 2018 #5
- got their shit pushed in - is a homophobic slur. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #6
Edited Alea Jul 2018 #9
Fuck that noise maxrandb Jul 2018 #7
+100 blueseas Jul 2018 #8
Germans who supported Hitler in 1932 DBoon Jul 2018 #10
Not supporting antifa doesn't mean I support the other side Alea Jul 2018 #11
Anyone who is a Republican is a tacit supporter of fascism. Coventina Jul 2018 #13
More gaslighting maxrandb Jul 2018 #17
And there are all those who ditch the swastika because of bad optics... backscatter712 Jul 2018 #22
By my estimate, a full third of the population is bigoted trash. backscatter712 Jul 2018 #21
Nice trolling points JonAndKatePlusABird Jul 2018 #23
LOL Alea Jul 2018 #28
"Since our party has demonized every republican as a nazi.." Cha Jul 2018 #24
I have not heard that sort of thing from the Democratic party at all. (nt) MarvinGardens Jul 2018 #29
A-fucking-men! backscatter712 Jul 2018 #18
A thousand times: NO Coventina Jul 2018 #12
They can use any name they want but it's still a violent group Alea Jul 2018 #14
Nazis must be defeated by any means necessary. Coventina Jul 2018 #15
Violence against Nazis is bad why? backscatter712 Jul 2018 #19
Bingo, 99% of antifascist activism is nonviolent radius777 Jul 2018 #26
Cute response. EarthFirst Jul 2018 #25
Back at ya Alea Jul 2018 #27
It looks to me like antifa was successful. MarvinGardens Jul 2018 #30
It must be that nazi "patriot prayer group" defacto7 Jul 2018 #16
Them and the Proud Boys... backscatter712 Jul 2018 #20

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
1. Of course , the cops seem to be taking the Proud Boys' side.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jul 2018

Some of those that burn crosses
are the same that work forces...

Initech

(100,068 posts)
4. Rage Against The Machine FTW!
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jul 2018

If we really want to end white supremacy in this country, let's start by getting them out of law enforcement!

Alea

(706 posts)
5. Antifa pretty much got their asses kicked
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

Especially after they started throwing explosives. They have their own agenda and they are not fighting for us. They are for our side what the alt right, kkk is for the right. Even NPR is reporting that antifa started the violence (in this Portland case).

maxrandb

(15,326 posts)
7. Fuck that noise
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jul 2018

We're talking Nazis...ya' know... the ones that gassed and baked men, women and children... millions of men, women and children....and then made lampshade of the deads skin and necklaces from their teeth.

Anyone who rallies in support Nazis has surrendered their humanity.

If ever there was a class of people that should automatically be subject to "stand your ground"... It's Nazis!

Since our current leadership refuses to stand up and stop coddling the Nazis, someone else has to.

There is NO NAZI appearing in public that shouldn't get punched in the face.

In this case, civility equals acceptance.

And to any DUer who wants to ask the stupid gaslighting question; "what if they treated you like that?"

My answer is; "I'll let you know when I start supporting people who made necklaces out of the teeth of the people they MURDERED"

DBoon

(22,364 posts)
10. Germans who supported Hitler in 1932
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jul 2018

could credibly say they did not believe the Nazis would start another world war and exterminate millions of people.

Nazis in 2018 not only believe this, they support it.

Alea

(706 posts)
11. Not supporting antifa doesn't mean I support the other side
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jul 2018

Since our party has demonized every republican as a nazi then you're pretty much saying that 1/2 of America needs their faces punched in if they go out in public. That kind of talk isn't going to help our side.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
13. Anyone who is a Republican is a tacit supporter of fascism.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018

How much more proof do you need?

We see it in the papers every day.

It's not polite, but it's the truth.

maxrandb

(15,326 posts)
17. More gaslighting
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jul 2018

I'm not sure what party you're talking about, but Democrats haven't demonized ALL Retrumplicans as Nazis... just those Retrumplicans marching under and revering swastikas.

If you're looking for a party that demonized ALL who disagree with them, I suggest you start with the party that has 2,000 radio stations and an entire cable network devoted to nothing but demonizing those that disagree with their political views

Even your math is wrong. Retrumplicans haven't won a majority of votes cast in over 30 years..if I assumed they were all Nazis, it's closer to 42% that need their faces punched in.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
22. And there are all those who ditch the swastika because of bad optics...
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jul 2018

But proceed to march with Nazis, beat up black people like Nazis, advocate for ethnic cleansing like Nazis...

You know what I call them?

Nazis.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
21. By my estimate, a full third of the population is bigoted trash.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Sun Jul 1, 2018, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Just about everyone has that uncle, or whatever family member that's a full-on Trumpian racist, who's guaranteed to spout vile shit at Thanksgiving dinner.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
24. "Since our party has demonized every republican as a nazi.."
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jul 2018
Bullshit!

Most of them are Lying Fucking Fascists.

And, it isn't even 1/2 of America. Your kind of talk isn't helping anything.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
18. A-fucking-men!
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jul 2018

If you ask me, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

At the very least, ball up your fist and give them some free dental work.

They forfeited their right to civil treatment when they started calling for genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
12. A thousand times: NO
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:55 PM
Jul 2018

Antifa is exactly what their name says.

They are anti-fascist.

They are NOT the equivalent of the alt-right and KKK.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
15. Nazis must be defeated by any means necessary.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 02:00 PM
Jul 2018

And, that's usually violence.

Logic and talking doesn't work on Nazis.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
26. Bingo, 99% of antifascist activism is nonviolent
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:38 PM
Jul 2018

and non-idelogical, aside from people simply being against fascism.

Just like all stripes of people came together during the civil rights era, all stripes come together to stand against fascism, a threat ultimately to all.

The more theatric Antifa tactics started in Europe, as a way to disrupt the idea that fascism is just another normal ideology, when in reality it is a form of terrorism directed at the most vulnerable.

Antifa says 'no' and stands up to that which obviously the fascist don't like and lash out violently, which Antifa is ready to push back against.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
25. Cute response.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jul 2018

Especially when you cited NPR as some bastion of progressive truth in reporting by stating that individuals with an agenda of supporting minority demographics got their asses kicked.

Keep up the good fight on your end! I’m sure you’re friends will hear all about your do-gooding in the mocha-chaco-bullshit line on Monday morning...

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
30. It looks to me like antifa was successful.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM
Jul 2018

The fascist march was disrupted, declared an unlawful assembly, and dispersed.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. It must be that nazi "patriot prayer group"
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jul 2018

that keeps on coming down from WA to spread their prop. They are trying to make a political foothold in WA state. They get more publicity in Portland than they can in Vancouver WA.

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