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Depending on how it evolves. And that might happen quickly, since Broidy has announced he's ending hush money payments.
The theory is that Broidy took the fall for DT, but DT was really the father (and interestingly, the hush money agreement prepared by Cohen used the same pseudonyms as a DT agreement.)
A further theory is that, in exchange, DT offered Broidy a deal connected to our relations with Qatar, a longtime ally.
And that all this happened during DT's Presidency.
ON UPDATE: I just remembered that not only were the same pseudonyms used -- the same LLC was used by Cohen in connection with Bechard. Why would he have used the DT LLC for a Broidy affair?
And if the real contract was between Trump and Bechard, maybe Cohen used the same basic contract he used with Stormy, and structured it the same way -- without DT actually signing it, but with a side agreement naming the individuals involved.
https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/is-media-ignoring-the-biggest-scandal-in-presidential-history-writer-behind-trump-broidy-theory-explains/
About the only thing missing from this theory (other than ultimate hard proof), was some sort of evidence that Broidy was actually rewarded for his amazing act of loyalty to Trump. Well, it didnt take long for that to surface in a very big way.
It was soon learned that Broidys company got its biggest U.S. government contract ever after pitching the Trump administration, though, importantly, the original deal was made in 2014. Even more suspiciously, Broidy secured huge business with the UAE just after having met with Trump in an effort to get the United States to alter its policy on Qatar, a UAE adversary.
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The prospect of Trump having had a political ally pay off a mistress to have an abortion would be extremely scandalous, even for him. But what we didnt know, until now, is that there appears to be legitimate evidence to suggest that this affair and pregnancy happened while Trump was the president of the United States!
Campos revealed to me that he has social media posts from Bechard in 2017 which indicate that she told friends that she was due to give birth this past weekend (there is no sign that she is still pregnant). This would mean (based on various pregnancy calculators) that she would have been impregnated near the end of last September.
That time period locks up perfectly with various aspects of the timeline in this case. This includes other social media posts indicating that Trump and Bechard were both in the New York area for multiple days at the end of last September, that she told people she was pregnant in October, and that Broidy got his meeting with Trump to impress the UAE at the beginning of December, which was just a couple of days after he provided Bechard with her first $200,000 payment.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/10/opinions/michael-cohen-essential-consultants-threat-dantonio/index.html
According to Avenatti, Essential Consultants LLC also took in more than $4 million since it was created at the close of the 2016 election. Avenatti claims that $187,500 came from Republican donor Elliott Broidy. The Wall Street Journal reports that Essential Consultants then paid $1.6 million in hush money to Playboy model Shera Bechard, who had an abortion after, she alleges, Broidy impregnated her.
The agreement that was supposed to cover up the alleged Broidy/Bechard affair employs the same pseudonyms, "David Dennison" and "Peggy Peterson," that were used to hide the identities of the principals in agreement between Daniels and Trump. This practice suggests that Cohen was using legal boilerplate and was too lazy to even create original fake names.
eleny
(46,166 posts)K&R
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,415 posts)2015: It is possible that the [blank] story will be enough to bring Trump down.
2016: It is possible that the [blank] story will be enough to bring Trump down.
2017: It is possible that the [blank] story will be enough to bring Trump down.
Not to be Debbie Downer or anything, but....
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)They'll give him a "mulligan"
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)they wouldn't care. Banning abortion is only meant for the peasants.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Most of the other charges (emoluments,collusion) are hard to explain and difficult to prove. While it is clear that he obstructed you have to establish intent, not easy.
If Brody flips and gives evidence of a quid for quo bribe it is easy to prove and everyone understands it.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Or am I on the wrong affair? So many to choose from.
Another point you might add to your speculation. Broidy certainly isn't the type any female would go after or even agree to spend time in bed with. Gag! He'd have to pay a lot more than that for his jollies. After all...well, let's just let it go for now. I'm sure you get my point.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)when questioned by reporters, why did Broidy immediately admit it?
If the secret was worth $1.6, why admit it unless forced to by a prosecutor? Unless you're really trying to publicly cover up for someone else.
Broidy owning it immediately is soooooo unlike anyone who gets caught at infidelity. There's usually months of stonewalling to protect marriage. Makes the payment a waste of money....in the normal course of things.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)said of tRump. Strange what $$$$ can do for a person where gold diggers are involved. I think Broidy and tRump look very much alike, both overweight, double chins, fat bellies, repulsive. Yeah, two peas in a pod.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)No pod could hold those two peas.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)said of tRump. Strange what $$$$ can do for a person where gold diggers are involved. I think Broidy and tRump look very much alike, both overweight, double chins, fat bellies, repulsive. Yeah, two peas in a pod.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)A microscopic percentage of this shit would have been enough to bury a Democrat and here we are how many broken laws and immoral acts later???
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I just can't believe the shit they get away with!
CatMor
(6,212 posts)she will come out with the whole story.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Will the popular media and Trump's die-hard supporters give a flying fig about this? Even if it's conclusively shown that Trump impregnated Bechard, pressured her into an abortion, and even paid for it, I don't see that affecting the baked-in attitude of his supporters. The popular media have shown their ravenous appetite for pursuing a juicy scandal when it involves sex, but not when one of the parties involved is Donald J. Trump.
So, I'm going to say no.
JI7
(89,247 posts)will continue toto support him.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If it is proven that he performed the abortion himself, then he would remain president, so I'm not sure what "take him down" means.
If you mean some version of "lose support among his base", then the answer is no, they will consider it "fake news".
grantcart
(53,061 posts)triron
(21,999 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)LOSER45 is experiencing jitters, nervous tics, big quandaries, and paralyzing grey clouds of fear and panic, then IM ALL FOR IT!!!
bitterross
(4,066 posts)As I was told by an evangelical on FB yesterday, "Our President has an imperfect past but we all deserve a chance to change and it is not our place to judge."
They will "forgive" him of his past and give him a chance. Not that they bothered to do anything remotely similar for Obama.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)was that he was black, and they didn't do that.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)been "saved." The abortion would have been last fall.
BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)When Stormy was the issue they let it go since it happened before he became the fake prez. If this time line is true, than he did have someone get pregnant and have an abortion while in office.
I am sure if you get the same evangelical representative on record today he would be thinking of a way to justify his previous statement and excuse the moron's actions in this new light. His supporters always seem to do a 180 when if suits their needs.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)I just don't think it will matter to them. They will find another way to let him off the hook. To give him a mulligan.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)a vasectomy? It boggles the mind. I only have one partner (my wife), and I had it done at 50.
unblock
(52,204 posts)He can pay for an abortion, or if he has to he can pay for child support. With the spare change he finds in the sofa.
Stupid not to do it while president rather than just a private citizen, I suppose, but he's gotten away with horrible behavior all his life, why would he think being president restricts him?
Besides, Melanie might have found out and not approved....
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)raw dogging around behind your wife's back - instead of conceiving a child with someone that you have no intention of being in a relationship with and then aborting any child that came of the union. Also, it's just stupid because it makes him vulnerable to blackmail.
The problem is, he doesn't care about doing the responsible thing. He's just a fat fucking pig who only thinks of himself and his own immediate needs.
unblock
(52,204 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)The only thing that will change that is democrats taking over the house and hopefully the Senate.
Its however going to be very hard to take the house because of the severe case of gerry mandering the GOP did in 2010, 2012, etc.
The GOP flat out manuevered the democrats in the past 10 years with congressional maps and it could take some serious time before its undone. The hope was the Supreme court would undo this gerrymandering advantage but that is disappearing as well.
Get serious folks. The GOP has firm control of the levers of USA. We closed our eyes and they made their moves and now we are in many ways locked out.
It will take us TAKING back the house / senate in the various states before we can undo this damage.
Sure we can get the presidency if Russians or FBI dont help the GOP but other than that we have a very large mountain to get over.
Bottom line, vote vote vote and get others to vote.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)could be a linchpin of the Democratically controlled House's' impeachment proceeding
BlueSea
(64 posts)His followers have already made their Faustian bargain and they have learned to live with it. They don't care what he's done, they will follow him no matter what because it feels so good to them to be able to shrug off 50+ years of progressive values, (what they call political correctness) that they won't give him up. They can finally say how they really feel about ethnic minorities, the LGBTQ community, non-Christians, etc. Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 these people have had to keep their mouths shut and crawl under rocks because America had advanced beyond Jim Crow and they could no longer speak their minds. Now, with Trump and the evangelical Christians, they have been able to unload their burden of progressive values and are open to finally spew forth their hate. It feels so good to them that there's no going back now, no matter what scandal comes up for Trump. They won't trade this feeling for anything and are forgiving him for every single scandal and lie.
PSPS
(13,593 posts)Stuart G
(38,420 posts)PSPS
(13,593 posts)Google "trump mulligan" and you'll see the usual RW hypocrisy at work.
LittleGirl
(8,284 posts)The evangelicals. They don't freaking care. He could shoot someone and they don't care.
Didn't you read Melanie's jacket?
Orangeutan
(204 posts)Why would they believe this?
They'll put their fingers in their ears and chant, "Nya, nya, nya, can't hear you!"
Orangeutan
(204 posts)That would be the allegations of raping the 13-year-old chained to the bed.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Sam McGee
(347 posts)Remember when Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and still be elected?
He was right.
If turns out it was Trump who knocked up the Playmate, his base will celebrate his virility . . . then march out and vote for him.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)when Al Franken, during a comedy tour a decade ago, pretended to touch the breasts of his female co-star.
I don't know how I'd ever explain that to my grandchildren. Thank dog I don't have any grandchildren.
jmowreader
(50,555 posts)This is what the Deplorables would fall back on if we had irrefutable proof Trump impregnated a woman after he was inaugurated president.
1) Kennedy fucked Marilyn Monroe and you didn't care. Why weren't you out in the street protesting when that happened? (a)
2) Trump can do anything he wants because Hillary had an e-mail server. (b)
3) Speaking against the president in time of war is treason. (c)
4) You didn't say anything about that child sex slavery ring John Podesta was running out of the basement of that pizza parlor in Georgetown, you don't get to say anything about my president. (d)
(a) That I was four months old the day Kennedy was murdered might have something to do with that.
(b) I can just imagine myself as Secretary Not Sure in Idiocracy..."what is an e-mail server? Do you even know?" when a Deplorable started talking about Hillary's.
(c) Trade wars do not count. They especially don't count if Trump started the fucking thing.
(d) That's not true. We said plenty. We said the story was a lie, which it was. We said John Podesta doesn't do shit like that, which he does not. We said there was no damn way anyone was running a child sex slave ring, any other kind of sex slave ring, a fight club or a clandestine cigar-smoking club in the basement of Comet Ping-Pong because Comet Ping-Pong has no basement. And we also said that when Podesta uses the term "cheese pizza," THIS...
is what a fucking cheese pizza looks like.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Paying for an abortion wouldn't hurt Trump with his base, they would tell themselves that it is just lies from the media.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)that could defeat HRC. They got DJ Trump, who has a hyperactive penis that refuses to be sheathed. But, since GAWD sent that miscreant, they must accept him without reservation. And, that's how RWNJ religion works.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)When have the Republicans given you any indication they care what their own politicians do?
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)that will bring him down in my opinion are votes- either directly, if we vote him out, or indirectly, if down-ballot republicans lose so badly in the midterms that they begin to see him as a liability.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)This certainly is not the first time Trump allegedly had extramarital sex and subsequently paid for an abortion.
The 13-year-old girl who alleges Trump raped her back in 1993 stated in a signed U.S. District Court deposition [under penalty of perjury] that after he raped her (despite her screams for him to get off her), she sobbed "What if I get pregnant?".afterwhich he allegedly tossed money at her and angrily replied "then get a fucking abortion!"
Also, there was an eyewitness to Trump's rape of the 13-year-old girl, and the eyewitness signed a deposition in court, [also under penalty of perjury], detailing the circumstances of witnessing the alleged rape of the 13-year-old girl.
Read the story in the victim's own words:
http://www.justiceforkatie.com/
elmac
(4,642 posts)but nothing, and I mean nothing will take him down while all of congress and scotus is under fascist control.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)I think much of his base admires Trump for his peccadillos. They would like to do this themselves and get away with it. This makes him even larger than life in their eyes. I think the financial corruption might have more weight with his supporters.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It would take the woman coming forward and naming Trump as the father, to show that he is. That wouldn't take him down as President, IMO. Why would it? It's no different than a fling w/a porn star, except the woman got preggers. "Boys will be boys" is their view.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)to funnel all Trump's payments. And that the document contained the same pseudonyms that Cohen had used for Trump and Stormy.
Why would he set up a hush money vehicle for Broidy through DT's slush money LLC?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)And it may have just been what Cohen set up for hush money deals...probably for Trump. But unless the check or transfer says "money re pregnancy,".... you get my drift.
Unlike Stormy Daniels who came forward and was frank in detailing what happened between her & Trump. That's what it would take for this woman, regarding a pregnancy. IMO.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Not as many as it should, but some. Its one of the few red lines some of the Christian Right have left.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hopefully he won't get to another election so that votes will matter. Hoping he has to leave office before then.
But there would have to be proof. For me, that would include the woman saying so. For Trumpers, they won't believe her. They'll need other proof. There WOULD be proof of an abortion...a receipt from the doctor/clinic, etc. They'll say that's forged. Most will know it's true, but we've seen how they are. Like they were with Obama's birth certificate.
For the anti-abortion supporters, they'd just as soon accept Pence as Trump. What matters to then now is the S.Ct. appointment.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Republicans get off scot-free every time. And Cheeto has made a lifetime career of never paying the piper.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Dream on.