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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:31 PM Jul 2018

Private School for Rich Kids Announces Plans to Segregate Students By Race



https://www.theroot.com/private-school-for-rich-kids-announces-plans-to-segrega-1827289709

Private School for Rich Kids Announces Plans to Segregate Students By Race
Michael Harriot
Today 12:57pm


If you’re reading this thinking it is one of those clickbait-y headlines for a perfectly reasonable policy, you’re probably going to be disappointed because a New York City private school for the children of wealthy parents has announced that it will begin separating its students based on their race. And, according to numerous reports, for the Little Red Schoolhouse, “will begin” is a euphemism that describes something they have already been doing for years.

The Little Red Schoolhouse in Manhattan’s West Village charges $45,485 per year and teaches the children of David Schwimmer, Christy Turlington Burns, and Sofia Coppola. Parents recently learned that the school officially implemented an ethnicity-based segregation policy last year, according to the New York Post.

During the 2017-2018 school year, 7th and 8th-grade students were placed in homerooms determined by their race, where they spent 30 percent of their classroom time. The plan worked out so well that the officials informed parents of plans to expand the new Jim Crow education initiative to the 6th grade in the fall.

“Research points to the academic, social, and emotional benefits to being in a classroom with others who share racial, ethnic, linguistic, and/or cultural backgrounds” explains the student handbook for the 97-year-old institution
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Although the school claims the practice was limited to 2 grades, one parent said she realized that all but one of the students on her child’s grade level were assigned to the same class throughout their elementary years. Another parent said his child noticed the school had been quietly segregating students by color as far back as kindergarten.

“It was my daughter who immediately noticed that all the kids of color were in one class. If you’re going to have that policy, you need to be upfront,” he said. “We realized she was placed with all the minority students, but none of her friends. It was peculiar that they didn’t spread everyone out.”


On June 12, school director Phillip Kassen sent a message to parents explaining the policy, leading to a large outcry. Eight days later he emailed the parents again and said he would alter the educational equivalent to redlining, but wrote that the school would continue to use race as a “critical, but not primary, determinant.”


However, experts state that many schools in New York and throughout the country have implemented this kind of policy.

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Private School for Rich Kids Announces Plans to Segregate Students By Race (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
That they do it is old news. That they're upfront about it is new. Girard442 Jul 2018 #1
I DON'T heaven05 Jul 2018 #2
I don't think it's DeVos RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #8
The school has a progressive reputation since founding. Incredible news. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #14
As I said.... RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #16
I'll take your word for it heaven05 Jul 2018 #15
We had that in South Africa Nonhlanhla Jul 2018 #3
When the schools were first desegregated in the US csziggy Jul 2018 #10
I can't believe this? I can't believe they would think it was ok or acceptable to smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #4
Yea get the red out Jul 2018 #5
We are going backwards at such an alarming rate. Damn. Initech Jul 2018 #6
Has the entire non-white population left the school? catrose Jul 2018 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #9
Kindergarteners aren't in college. How is segregating them by race "for our benefit"? uppityperson Jul 2018 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #12
Thank you MIRT uppityperson Jul 2018 #13
This policy might be intended to support the minority students. califootman Jul 2018 #17
Kick, this is impt. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #18

Girard442

(6,063 posts)
1. That they do it is old news. That they're upfront about it is new.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

Can't have the Aryans associating with the mud people.



(I really hope that wasn't needed.)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. I DON'T
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:40 PM
Jul 2018

take this lightly. I feel the fingers of DeVos. A private memo sent out to these schools? Then IF it works to spread back to public and charter schools? This is some outlandish shit!!!!!!!!!!! It's RACIAL SEGREGATION. again.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
8. I don't think it's DeVos
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jul 2018

I think a lot of "enlightened" people suddenly thought this is the way to go. And trust me, they believe they are VERY liberal.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
14. The school has a progressive reputation since founding. Incredible news.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:49 AM
Jul 2018

I always heard good things about it and grads like Mary Travers, Angela Davis, Robert De Niro and more. Just wow..



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_School_House

(Wiki) The Little Red School House and Elisabeth Irwin High School, also referred to as LREI, was founded by Elisabeth Irwin in 1921 in Manhattan, New York City as the Little Red School House, and is regarded as the city's first progressive school. Created as a joint public-private educational experiment, the school tested principles of progressive education that had been advocated since the turn of the 20th century by John Dewey. The founders postulated that the lessons of progressive education could be applied successfully in the crowded, ethnically diverse public schools of the nation's largest city... Read More..

*Notable alumni:
Peter Berg, actor, film director, producer, writer
Kathy Boudin, radical, public health expert
Emory Cohen, actor
Angela Davis, political activist
Robert De Niro, actor
Eric R. Dinallo, Super. of Insurance, New York State
Elle King, singer
Peter Knobler, author[7]
Michael and Robert Meeropol, sons of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg
Victor Navasky, professor, Columbia School of Journalism; editor, publisher emeritus, The Nation
Zac Posen, fashion designer
Ronald Radosh[8]
Doug Rauch, musician
Harris Rosen, philanthropist and entrepreneur, President & COO, Rosen Hotels & Resorts
Toshi Seeger, filmmaker and environmental activist[9]
Dan Shor, actor
Mary Travers, singer, member of folk group Peter, Paul and Mary
Benjamin Drake Wright, psychometrician
Edward Irving Wortis, author

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
16. As I said....
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

....I think that they think they are being progressive. And with every races best interest in mind.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. I'll take your word for it
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 07:42 AM
Jul 2018

yet growing up in a segregated amerika taught me a few things about the devious evil of racist white people.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
3. We had that in South Africa
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:40 PM
Jul 2018

and the argument was the same - that different ethnic groups learn and grow best among themselves. It was called "separate development." But it was better known as apartheid... And the reality was discrimination against people of color.

In short, this educational theory was BS then and it is BS now.



csziggy

(34,131 posts)
10. When the schools were first desegregated in the US
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:53 PM
Jul 2018

My father wanted to do as his brother did for his children - send us to private church run schools that were all white. My mother objected - she maintained that we were going to live in a world with all sorts of people so we might as well learn to get along with everyone starting in school.

Aside from the fact that segregated school systems are never equal as to resources, they also reduce the communication among various groups of people. And isn't that what we are being told to do now - go out and talk to everyone and not just stay in our little comfort zones?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. I can't believe this? I can't believe they would think it was ok or acceptable to
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jul 2018

do such a thing - especially NYC - and this school is right in SOHO! What do the parents of the minority children think about this? They are spending a LOT of money to send their children to that school, shouldn't they be outraged that their children are being separated from the the other white children?

What is this world coming to?

catrose

(5,059 posts)
7. Has the entire non-white population left the school?
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jul 2018

Because why would you pay $45K for segregated classes?

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Response to uppityperson (Reply #11)

califootman

(120 posts)
17. This policy might be intended to support the minority students.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jul 2018

I didn't see any breakdown of the student body along racial/ethnic lines, but I would bet it is overwhelmingly white.

If you have only a handful of black or Asian or Hispanic kids in the entire school, it might make sense to put them together in the same homeroom class so that they know they are not the only minority kid in the place. From later in the article:

"The problem is, there still isn’t enough diversity in New York City independent schools,” explained one educational consultant who focuses on minority students. “This is just a Band-Aid. You need to advocate for more financial aid and diversity"


Now, if the five (hypothetical number) Hispanic kids in the school are their own separate homeroom class, that's definitely an issue. But if the five Hispanic kids in the school are put together in a typical homeroom class of 20-25 students, I could see how that might be beneficial to them.

Of course the flipside is that the other homeroom classes are entirely lacking in diversity. The ideal solution would be to have enough minority students at the school that every homeroom class can have representation.
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