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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,740 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 09:46 PM Jul 2018

Michigan judge rules kids don't have a fundamental right to literacy

A Michigan judge ruled last week that children do not have a fundamental right to learn how to read and write.

The ruling came in response to a lawsuit filed by Public Counsel, the nation's largest public interest law firm, on behalf of Detroit students that sought to hold state authorities, including Gov. Rick Snyder (R), accountable for what plaintiffs alleged were systemic failures depriving children of their right to literacy, according to the Detroit Free Press.

"I'm shocked," said Ivy Bailey, president of the Detroit Federation of Teachers, the newspaper reported. "The message that it sends is that education is not important. And it sends the message that we don't care if you're literate or not."

The suit also sought fixes to crumbling schools that, among other measures, Detroit Public Schools Community District officials reportedly said would amount to more than $500 million.

The state had argued for dismissing the suit, with the city's lawyers saying local officials are "all too familiar with illiteracy's far reaching effects."

"Widespread illiteracy has hampered the City's efforts to connect Detroiters with good-paying jobs; to fill vacancies on its police force, and to grow its tax base," said lawyers for the city. "Illiteracy, moreover, has greatly exacerbated the effects of intergenerational poverty in Detroit."

U.S. District Judge Stephen Murphy III acknowledged the importance of literacy in his ruling on Friday in a 40-page opinion.

"Plainly, literacy - and the opportunity to obtain it - is of incalculable importance," Murphy wrote. "As plaintiffs point out, voting, participating meaningfully in civic life, and accessing justice require some measure of literacy."

But he concluded that those points "do not necessarily make access to literacy a fundamental right," adding that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the past that the importance of service "does not determine whether it must be regarded as fundamental."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-judge-rules-kids-dont-have-a-fundamental-right-to-literacy/ar-AAzuJCW?li=BBnbcA1

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Michigan judge rules kids don't have a fundamental right to literacy (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 OP
wHY? Matthew28 Jul 2018 #1
Access to an education is a fundamental right. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #2
Link to actual ruling metalbot Jul 2018 #3
"Future Donald Trump Supreme Court nominee?" MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #4
When this judge Corgigal Jul 2018 #5
I see some inconsisties and contradictions. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #6

Matthew28

(1,796 posts)
1. wHY?
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

Why in the hell would children not? Because some anti-American piece of shit that wishes to take this country down says so.

So fucking sick of this crap.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
3. Link to actual ruling
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:34 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.scribd.com/document/382933211/Opinion-Gary-B-vs-Richard-Snyder-16-13292

The meat of the ruling starts on page 29, but the first 20 pages do provide some interesting rejections of the state's various attempts to claim that they weren't actually responsible for the state's schools and that even if they were that they had immunity.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
5. When this judge
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jul 2018

ends up in a nursing home, his aide can whisper " I didn't have a right to literacy".

Go Stephen King.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
6. I see some inconsisties and contradictions.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jul 2018

Michigan judge rules no fundamental right to literacy.

Literacy is a human right. Therefore the judge says the law can deny a child a right that has been recognized for decades/centuries.

Next, children are compelled by law to attend school. If their parents keep them at home with no lessons, the children can be removed by Child Protection and the parents legally disciplined. If children *must* attend school, then for what reason according to the judge? To keep them off the streets?

From my understanding, literacy is a right that must be offered to all children. Whether that right is refused by the child is irrelevant. It must be offered.

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