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spanone

(135,827 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:11 PM Jul 2018

Is Trump going to defy the California Judge's order for reunification?

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A judge in California has ordered U.S. border authorities to reunite separated families within 30 days.

If the children are younger than 5, they must be reunified within 14 days of the order, issued Tuesday.

https://krcrtv.com/news/nation-world/judge-orders-families-reunited-within-30-days-06-27-2018-103443077

SIX DAYS DOWN AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING.

this is according to a attorney on Rachel Maddow's show who represents some of the victims.

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Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
1. No, he's just going to ignore it. Courts can make decisions, but they can't enforce them.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:14 PM
Jul 2018

I don’t know how in tf this is going to shake out, span.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
3. Sure looks that way. Who will defy him?...who can give orders to the border patrol people and ICE?
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jul 2018

Only he can, I’ve heard (though I don’t know that for a stone fact) -

I learned in Dec. of ‘16 that Putin effectively did away with Russia’s judiciary system in right about two years, and, as we know, only the most courageous Russians attempt to write freely and honestly anymore about what is really going on in their country.

I watch in dismay as this nightmare marches forward, but I know we’re all doing what we can, span, disheartening as it may be sometimes -

*sigh*

triron

(21,999 posts)
5. Hate to say this but that's what the Germans said when Hitler started gassing Jews.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jul 2018

Our democracy is dying bit by bit.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
10. Yes, t, this is not happening and cannot happen, but here we are. I read many times a day
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jul 2018

not to overreact and to keep the faith etc., but I know we’re all struggling terribly on a daily basis...this shit is HARD.

— but we’ll be back tomorrow, OH HELL YEAH

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
4. Yes they will defy the order, I would not be shocked or surprised if there are dead babies and girls
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 10:31 PM
Jul 2018

... sold to pervs.

There's no good reason why anyone shouldn't know exactly where these children already are.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
13. If the children aren't reunited, then we must PRESUME
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:45 PM
Jul 2018

dead babies, sold babies, and trafficked older boys and girls.

I hope members of our leadership will demand answers, and never drop it. We have a child trafficker in the White House, and we need to scream it to the rooftops.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
7. any court decision can be appealed to his loyal SC
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:06 PM
Jul 2018

eventually he will install enough judges in federal and circuit courts that SC wont even be necessary

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
8. I'm not a lawyer, but I beleive the court has the authority and power
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:08 PM
Jul 2018

to hold the defendant (HHS Secty Alex Azar?) in contempt of court for violation of a court order and can put him in jail until compliance.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. Even if they are reunited, they will be detained for months or even years.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:28 PM
Jul 2018

Even if Judge Gee refuses to modify Flores, this evil administration is convinced it has the right to detain indefinitely.

Read this and try not to scream: https://www.vox.com/2018/6/30/17520820/families-together-detention-separate-camp-military

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. In fairness, given their incompetence
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jul 2018

It may not be intentional simply because they didn't think to keep track of where the kids and parents are. Granted incompetence on that scale is terrifying, but I could easily see it taking a couple of weeks to get some sort of organization in place just to be able to reunite the families.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
18. Not keeping track of the children was intentional as well.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jul 2018

They put a gag order on the foster homes that were receiving the children.

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