The more I think about it the more it looks

[malaise]

Like treason.
Manafort has been working on behalf of Russia for over a decade and the Con picked him.
This may require more than locking up for all of them.

[RKP5637]

1. Sure looks like it to me. Also, Trump's statements sound like incitement to riot. The whole bunch

of them are criminal IMO.

[Zoonart]

3. I could not agree more.

Unfortunately, we are constitutionally unprepared for a traitor in the White House. I fear we are in the second year of the coup.

[RKP5637]

8. America has never really experienced something like this, so IMO many Americans remains clueless

by default.

[DemocracyMouse]

38. Clueless? Yes. We hide newspapers from public sight. Ever been to a drug store? A chain restaurant?

"Zero-progress" information spaces = dumbass N. Americans. Here in Barcelona (I'm showing my 18 year old there's another world outside his arrogant Chicago suburb) there's a progressive, center-left tabloid, El Periodico, in almost every café. Even La Vanguardia is relatively centrist.

[boston bean]

2. It really makes me wonder about Tad Devine.

Haven’t seen him anywhere.

[malaise]

6. Not sure

He was a major consultant for both Gore and Kerry long before Sanders.

[boston bean]

9. The hacked clinton database......... I'm just saying that I wonder...

[malaise]

10. I hope we all live long enough to find out the truth

It's a mess

[ehrnst]

21. I know that I started getting donation asks via email from a campaign that I didn't

sign up for starting in December 2015.

[malaise]

33. You may be right

Interesting

[MrsCoffee]

12. Who also both lost.

[ehrnst]

22. After losing elections with Gore and Kerry, Devine joined up with Manafort (nt)

[karin_sj]

13. I was curious as to who Tad Devine was...

So I did a Google News search and found this in an article dated today. What's interesting is the picture. It's dated 2006 and Devine is sitting right next to Manafort.

https://www.dcourier.com/news/2018/jul/03/russian-charged-trumps-ex-campaign-chief-key-figur/

"Konstantin Kilimnik, an elusive figure under indictment for alleged witness tampering by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, is seen seated on the far left in a March 2006 photo obtained by The Associated Press as part of a collection of internal corporate memos and business records from the international political consulting offices of Donald Trump’s ex-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. Mueller has indicated that Kilimnik is in Russia and has ties to Russian intelligence, which Kilimnik disputes. The photograph represents one of the few images known to exist of Kilimnik. Also in the photo, seated from left: Kilimnik, Martha Young, Catherine Barnes, Tad Devine, Paul Manafort, Phillip Griffin; standing from left: Lee Avrashov, an unidentified individual and Christian Ferry."

[ehrnst]

17. Yep. (nt)

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

27. Very interesting.

[R B Garr]

26. I also wonder about Tad Devine.

The similarities!

[el_bryanto]

4. Any more than locking them up creates fires we may not be able to put out.

Assuming I understand you correctly. The next step past locking them up would seem to be execution.

Bryant

[malaise]

5. I am profoundly anti death penalty

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But the question is how else do you stop treasonous mercenaries?

[TomVilmer]

20. So to stop what you call dictators...

... you want to behave like a dictator?

[ehrnst]

23. You lock them up, and they fade away.

If they don't off themselves first.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

28. In the military

it's an executable offense. Line you up w a bandana and a cigarette in your mouth and firing squad..."fires you". He's the Commander in Chief. He asked for the job. I think we have to set an example.

[kentuck]

7. The question about how Manafort was hired has not been fully explored.

Reportedly, the Trump "kids" recommended him. Why? What did they know about him?

[dhol82]

15. They are stupid and vain enough to be easily manipulated by the Russians.

Would not surprise me one iota.

[spanone]

11. It's hiding in plain sight.

[rurallib]

14. Yep - and the complicity of Republicans in congress is horrifying

no checks, no balances - just my party above all else.

And now the SCOTUS will soon be a another wing of Trumpco.

[malaise]

19. Don't forget Ryan and keeping

It in the family

[ehrnst]

16. This has some implications for some who are not Republicans.

Including those who worked with Manafort in the Ukraine on Viktor Yanukovych's campaign in 2004 as well as with Konstantin Kilimnik in 2006 - described as a fixer, translator or office manager to Manafort.

https://www.dcourier.com/news/2018/jul/03/russian-charged-trumps-ex-campaign-chief-key-figur/

[malaise]

18. Yes indeed n/t

[R B Garr]

29. Where is Tad Devine?

I have so many questions...

[PubliusEnigma]

24. The Rosenbergs got more for less.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

30. That's a fact.

Good to remember.

[malaise]

35. Thought about that before I posted the OP

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But they were robbed of their lives.

[Grammy23]

25. One thing that really bothers me about all of this (among many things that bother me)

is what it will take for those who support tRump to understand how badly they have been duped? They go out of their way to avoid anything that tries to break through the concrete they have surrounding their brains. Like good soldiers, they listen to their master who tells them relentlessly that anything about him that is not good or high praise is FAKE NEWS. In other words, pay no attention, nothing to see here. And they are fully on board with the idea that Mueller’s investigation has produced nothing and ultimately will exonerate tRump. (Because guess who told them that??)

So once Mueller finishes his investigation, presents what he found, will any of the true believers listen? What will it take for them to understand how they were fooled, duped and tricked into following tRump right to the hinges of Hell? And what does it say about them that they would blindly follow such a despicable so-called leader??

There is much to consider since this awful man was inflicted on the US. Maybe most of all is what it has revealed about a significant portion of our population. Very troubling.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

32. Who cares?

Convincing them isn't a pre-req. to charging him with a crime. they can all bite one, far as I'm concerned.

[malaise]

36. Very good post

He is trying to build an 'army' of deplorables.

[Raster]

42. I have a hard-core, right-wing brother, military background...

...that gets 100% of his news and information from Fox. 100%. This is a formerly brilliant guy. He is so freakin' indoctrinated, that family gatherings are basically "grin and bear it." He's my little brother. I love him because I have to.

[lagomorph777]

31. Really? I was there two years ago.

Now it looks like complete takeover of the GOP by Putin.

[blueinredohio]

34. And Manafort chose Pence.

[malaise]

39. Very important

I won't forget

[gademocrat7]

37. Treasonous bastards

Chump, his cabal and rethugs in Congress.

[joanbarnes]

40. Hanging?

[malaise]

41. I am against the death penalty

Lock them all up and feed them corn meal with no salt.