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spanone

(135,765 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:08 AM Jul 2018

Trump now hates Harley-Davidson, actively working to help their competition.




Now that Harley-Davidson is moving part of its operation out of the U.S., my Administration is working with other Motor Cycle companies who want to move into the U.S. Harley customers are not happy with their move - sales are down 7% in 2017. The U.S. is where the Action is!
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Trump now hates Harley-Davidson, actively working to help their competition. (Original Post) spanone Jul 2018 OP
Even Harley can't build a Hog big enough for his fat ass... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #1
Please, trump, show disdain for Harley by riding an Indian, Triumph or something without a helmet. Hoyt Jul 2018 #2
Riding a bike without a helmet would be as stupid as staring into the sun. Girard442 Jul 2018 #11
LOL. Exactly. Hoyt Jul 2018 #21
So GD unfit to serve as president. democratisphere Jul 2018 #3
Capitalizing motorcycle...... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #6
so... what other US based motorcycle manufacturer is he thinking of? lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #4
The guy is delusional, they're in his head only. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2018 #7
Indian has made announcements similar to Harley genxlib Jul 2018 #10
Cushman Scooters? They aren't big, but they're going places! Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #17
If Obama did this genxlib Jul 2018 #5
The rank hypocrisy of the GOP & media is stunning & constant & it wears one down. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #23
Sales are down 7% in 2017 because of something they did last week? marylandblue Jul 2018 #8
No,but Trump is psychotic YessirAtsaFact Jul 2018 #15
that was on trump's watch... spanone Jul 2018 #24
Lol! Tipperary Jul 2018 #25
OK, I get it. H/D would have to add $2,000 to each bike b/c of the tariffs. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #9
of course, he pulls these tweets directly out of his ass. spanone Jul 2018 #13
The tariffs apply to raw materials but not necessarily to manufactured items genxlib Jul 2018 #14
The various retallitory tariffs on Harleys exported to foreign countries is going to kill their rgbecker Jul 2018 #19
It boggles the imagination that he is using his Presidential account for this exboyfil Jul 2018 #12
Lol PoorMonger Jul 2018 #16
Good warning for all businesses workinclasszero Jul 2018 #18
WTF...does this mean billionaires that got most of his tax cuts aren't buying enough Harleys? Johonny Jul 2018 #20
It's not good to piss off motorcycle gangs. pwb Jul 2018 #22
Does he have a North Korean or Russian alternative, that Bikers for D Rump will switch over to? Mc Mike Jul 2018 #26
Parts and accessories for my Harley are too expensive now ... PBC_Democrat Jul 2018 #27
This is classic abusive behavior unblock Jul 2018 #28
A petty, petty man... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #29
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Harley Davidson and wouldn't lose any voters, Snotcicles Jul 2018 #30
He is such a petty, pathetic dumbass. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #31
A bright spot! He's sticking it right up Scott Walker's Greybnk48 Jul 2018 #32
Sounds like a job for princess Joni Ernst and her Hog castrating knife. IADEMO2004 Jul 2018 #33
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #34
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Please, trump, show disdain for Harley by riding an Indian, Triumph or something without a helmet.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jul 2018

Girard442

(6,063 posts)
11. Riding a bike without a helmet would be as stupid as staring into the sun.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jul 2018

Nobody is that stupid, right?

lapfog_1

(29,189 posts)
4. so... what other US based motorcycle manufacturer is he thinking of?
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:14 AM
Jul 2018

the only other "major" company that is US based is Indian... and they really aren't that big.

genxlib

(5,517 posts)
5. If Obama did this
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jul 2018

They would have shit a brick.

Someone please ask him what 2017 sales numbers have to do with recent announcements.

no_hypocrisy

(45,996 posts)
9. OK, I get it. H/D would have to add $2,000 to each bike b/c of the tariffs.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jul 2018

Wouldn't any and all other motorcycle manufacturer(s) have the same challenge? How could it/they compete when they too will have to raise THEIR price due to the tariffs?

genxlib

(5,517 posts)
14. The tariffs apply to raw materials but not necessarily to manufactured items
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jul 2018

Therefore, a bike made with foreign steel in Japan can be imported without those costs being tacked on.

At least that is my understanding.

rgbecker

(4,816 posts)
19. The various retallitory tariffs on Harleys exported to foreign countries is going to kill their
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jul 2018

marketing to China etc. By moving operations overseas, they avoid those tariffs.

At least that is my understanding in addition to your remarks. Your points indicate also the advantage of assembling the bikes using cheap un-taxed steel in factories overseas and then bring the bikes to the USA.

I was surprised as were others about how many facilities Harley has in other countries already.

"Harley-Davidson manufactures its motorcycles at factories in York, Pennsylvania; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Kansas City, Missouri (closing); Manaus, Brazil; and Bawal, India. Construction of a new plant in Thailand is scheduled to begin in late 2018[5]. The company markets its products worldwide."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. It boggles the imagination that he is using his Presidential account for this
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jul 2018

Precedent setting it is. I wonder what it means when it becomes a bully pulpit for a Democratic president?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. Good warning for all businesses
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:39 AM
Jul 2018

Trump will stab you in the back on a whim. The only thing he understands about business is corruption and bankruptcy.

Other than those two items he is a values/morals free demagogue that will do anything to hold on to power.

Throwing any business under the bus in not a problem for your GOP president idiots!

unblock

(52,089 posts)
28. This is classic abusive behavior
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jul 2018

Not clear to me he ever actually rewards loyalty other than by hiring loyal people, but he sure punished anyone who even appears to cross him.

No matter how inappropriate.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
30. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Harley Davidson and wouldn't lose any voters,
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jul 2018

ok? It’s, like, incredible.”

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. He is such a petty, pathetic dumbass.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

Are these little games really necessary? He can't just let anything go by. He always needs to hit back. God, I hate him with a passion!

IADEMO2004

(5,550 posts)
33. Sounds like a job for princess Joni Ernst and her Hog castrating knife.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jul 2018

Harley Davidson had slumping sales and the fucking deal maker jumps in to make it worse. Joni jiggling with laughter because we all know she likes to make them squeal.

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