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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:29 PM Jul 2018

A friend posted this on Facebook.

I rarely ever use it, but I just happened to be scrolling through and came upon this. It's chilling, because I think many of us are just as blissfully in denial about the possibility that it could ever happen here.

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A friend posted this on Facebook. (Original Post) smirkymonkey Jul 2018 OP
Wow. Yes. Tipperary Jul 2018 #1
Completely relevant now True Dough Jul 2018 #2
I'm afraid they always are. History repeats itself over and over again, and evermore viciously. Texin Jul 2018 #3
Everyone learns from the mistakes of the past, ... Whiskeytide Jul 2018 #11
From "The Death of Democracy" jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #4
Thanks. I thought this was from Shirer (1960). nt B Stieg Jul 2018 #15
Anyone who reads history knows this current story too well. byronius Jul 2018 #5
And there are Latter-day Good Germans all around us - NOW. calimary Jul 2018 #6
An example 80% of the population is ignoring. sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #7
+5 appalachiablue Jul 2018 #16
k and r Achilleaze Jul 2018 #8
K&R, and unlike today Nazis had complete control of media in Germany. We don't have that today uponit7771 Jul 2018 #9
We are already there... alwaysinasnit Jul 2018 #10
+1 RandomAccess Jul 2018 #20
Good grief LittleGirl Jul 2018 #12
Another reason I hate Dem leaders telling us Duppers Jul 2018 #13
Reference to Victor Klemperer's diaries erronis Jul 2018 #14
Similar to yours, along the same line FakeNoose Jul 2018 #17
Home run on the horrible reality. Thanks smirkeymonkey for this deep, appalachiablue Jul 2018 #18
Indeed. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #19
And we need to understand -- RandomAccess Jul 2018 #21
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #22
Absolutely prescient, unfortunately... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #23
That is what scares me. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #24
I share that sentiment. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #34
THIS! Yes. Some will say we're being dramatic & silly. Those people are naive. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #25
I think so. I think those who doubt that this administration could go that far are naive. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #26
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #28
From "It can happen here" ... JHan Jul 2018 #27
Chilling. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #29
Yep,, "governed by surprise" cuts to the quick. JHan Jul 2018 #31
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #32
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #30
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #33
Indeed. dalton99a Jul 2018 #35
Putin and the oligarchs know their history and are using this against us. lark Jul 2018 #36
I grew up in the 50s and 60s amid warnings that it indeed could happen anyplace. Nitram Jul 2018 #37
I think a big mistake we Americans make is that our government is so much more smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #38
Not only our government, but our fellow Americans. Nitram Jul 2018 #39

byronius

(7,392 posts)
5. Anyone who reads history knows this current story too well.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jul 2018

And it always ends badly for the nation in which such idiotic crap takes hold.

MAGA is bound to destroy this nation if it can. Axiomatic.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
9. K&R, and unlike today Nazis had complete control of media in Germany. We don't have that today
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jul 2018

... we have a choice to look up facts on our own where as opposition parties and media outlets in Germany were banned or destroyed.

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
10. We are already there...
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jul 2018

When you deny due process to one group and get away with it, it then becomes easier to deny it to every one else. I am referring to the 5th and 14th Amendments. Additionally, in denying due process to asylum seekers, we are also violating international law. Whom among us will be next? GOTV

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
13. Another reason I hate Dem leaders telling us
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jul 2018

Effectively to "behave." Fuck that.
This "Civility" mantra can kiss my 🐎.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. +1000
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jul 2018

We must never underestimate their capacity for evil. If they can find a way to get away with it, I honestly think they would gladly kill us all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. That is what scares me.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jul 2018

It feels like a runaway train loaded with explosives that we are powerless to stop. I have never felt so helpless in my life. We can vote, but they can cheat. If we don't sweep the mid-terms I will have lost all hope for this country.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. THIS! Yes. Some will say we're being dramatic & silly. Those people are naive.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:55 AM
Jul 2018

I'd rather be alarmed earlier, than later.

I'd rather ring the bell earlier, than be too late to the table.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. I think so. I think those who doubt that this administration could go that far are naive.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:59 AM
Jul 2018

If Trump ever decides to suspend elections or make himself president for life, there is a very good likelihood that it could get this bad.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
27. From "It can happen here" ...
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:05 AM
Jul 2018
With evident fatigue, the baker reported, “One had no time to think. There was so much going on.” His account was similar to that of one of Mayer’s colleagues, a German philologist in the country at the time, who emphasized the devastatingly incremental nature of the descent into tyranny and said that “we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us.” The philologist pointed to a regime bent on diverting its people through endless dramas (often involving real or imagined enemies), and “the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise.” In his account, “each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’” that people could no more see it “developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.”

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/06/28/hitlers-rise-it-can-happen-here/
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. +1000
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jul 2018

“each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’” that people could no more see it “developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.”

That is exactly what I feel like is going on right now. And it seems that we are powerless to stop it unless our votes are actually counted in the next election. And I am not so sure they will be. Every day, I feel a bit more sickened than the last, a bit more hopeless. I really want to keep my hopes up because I know that this is part of their plan to demoralize us.

One thing to always remember. They are NOT the majority. As long as we continue to fight and stay vigilant, there is no reason why we can't win. We just have to make sure that they do not cheat again the next time around.

lark

(23,078 posts)
36. Putin and the oligarchs know their history and are using this against us.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:48 AM
Jul 2018

drumpf is too stupid to know anything except self aggrandizement, he'll do anything Putin says and believe it's for the best because it helps him. He has no idea, no concept, of how other people survive and doesn't give a shit at all. He just knows that he has to follow putin;s orders because he's the one who put him in power and could take him out on a whim.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
37. I grew up in the 50s and 60s amid warnings that it indeed could happen anyplace.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jul 2018

We've had ample evidence of the truth of that ever since: Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan, Syria, Serbia, etc. It amazes me how many people still don't believe it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. I think a big mistake we Americans make is that our government is so much more
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jul 2018

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moral and civilized than people "over there". That we would never commit such atrocities against our own people or immigrants. However we currently live under a government that would have no problem starving its people or allowing them to die for lack of healthcare or resources. Why is it that much of a stretch to think that they wouldn't kill us outright if it became expedient?

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
39. Not only our government, but our fellow Americans.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

Trump's election proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that many voters are not "so much more moral and civilized than people "over there".

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