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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:35 PM Jul 2018

I really don't care, do u? - GOP Rep Jim Jordan, appears to be going down... BIGLY!

@krassenstein
BREAKING: Trump's biggest supporter in Congress, Powerful GOP Rep Jim Jordan, appears to be going down... BIGLY!

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I really don't care, do u?








NEWS Powerful GOP Rep. Jim Jordan Accused of Protecting a Sexual Predator James Kosur
ByJames KosurPublished on July 3, 2018

Ohio Republican Jim Jordan has been accused of failing to stop a team doctor from molesting wrestling students he coached more than two decades ago. Ohio State employee, Dr. Richard Strauss, died in 2005 but the university announced in April that it was investigating accusations brought against Strauss.


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https://hillreporter.com/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-protecting-sexual-predator-3332


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I really don't care, do u? - GOP Rep Jim Jordan, appears to be going down... BIGLY! (Original Post) kpete Jul 2018 OP
I have only glanced some of this stuff. Tipperary Jul 2018 #1
1,500 to 2,000 college-aged boys may have been sexually assaulted or raped by the doctor kpete Jul 2018 #6
I'm of two minds on the degree to which Jordan will be held accountable. CincyDem Jul 2018 #46
This is very true. It is a badge of honor to go to Ohio State... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #55
So Many! I would have thought Cha Jul 2018 #58
I'm pretty sure you mean - true he's going down for it. bitterross Jul 2018 #18
Yes, I mean I hope he is going to be going down for it. Nothing seems to touch these asshats. Tipperary Jul 2018 #61
Indeed! The best case would be no sexual assaults occurred! Lucky Luciano Jul 2018 #72
Poor Jim . . . off to locate my tiny violin. Vinca Jul 2018 #2
Please, he is a Republican manor321 Jul 2018 #3
sadly, you are correct... handmade34 Jul 2018 #30
No big deal, just another Repervican sex abuse scandal, except - oops - it's gay sex abuse. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #35
Butt-phuckery is part of their initiation rites, being in line with the boss erronis Jul 2018 #44
This is the Ohio State...I think he may very well go down. I live in Ohio where parents send their Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #56
This is not enough to bring this awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #4
This is pretty study stuff: Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #5
Thoughts and Prayers peggysue2 Jul 2018 #7
Only for a student to accuse JJ himself malaise Jul 2018 #42
How is he going down? OliverQ Jul 2018 #8
GULP! You have to ask? TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #11
Not after today. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #12
It's still a R+14 seat. OliverQ Jul 2018 #16
His seat may have been safe yesterday gratuitous Jul 2018 #14
Well his opponent seems good. OliverQ Jul 2018 #17
Excellent news gratuitous Jul 2018 #22
A kindergarten teacher might do well in Congress. yardwork Jul 2018 #65
This is a good place for billboards. Specific ones that talk about the sexual abuse, in a well Maraya1969 Jul 2018 #71
I fear you may be correct. bitterross Jul 2018 #21
So far today, this story is MASSIVE. "Jimjordan" has been trending at #5 on twitter all day... Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #9
Wow. I even posted about it and hadn't looked. The minions are going nuts. nolabear Jul 2018 #39
Expect Jordan to say it was locker room horseplay. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #10
He swears he didn't know anything Cha Jul 2018 #62
So now he has the correct Republican credentials.. Permanut Jul 2018 #13
+1 - or pResident! Maybe putin is looking for another boyfriend... erronis Jul 2018 #47
He ignored a staffer who was molesting boys too riverwalker Jul 2018 #15
Maybe he can join Denny Hastert for a match. bitterross Jul 2018 #19
Ohio State University is being damaged by this too. irisblue Jul 2018 #20
Stinking fish at OHIO State. All who knew of the abuse deserve to go down. riversedge Jul 2018 #24
This is the FACE and BEHAVIOR of a loyalist. Time to fight dirty. Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #23
Are you saying that Trump loyalists have no ethical ot moral compass because virgogal Jul 2018 #25
I said to fight dirty. Harvey Weinstein and his enablers are indeed horrible Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #31
This is a new one story for me leanforward Jul 2018 #26
what a shame the republican primary is already over..can he be replaced on the ballot? nt Fresh_Start Jul 2018 #27
Not a chance BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #28
Wonder when we see the poles switch again - repugs become the party of "Let's party" erronis Jul 2018 #48
Jim Jordan pamdb Jul 2018 #29
I only hope it matters PoorMonger Jul 2018 #32
The District will not be gerrymandered after 2020 True Blue American Jul 2018 #73
womp womp QC Jul 2018 #33
I wonder if Rosenstein gibraltar72 Jul 2018 #34
Molesting young college men brought down Jerry Sandusky and ruined the legacy of Joe Paterno..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2018 #36
Yep DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #57
There's one big difference in the Sandusky case FakeNoose Jul 2018 #70
GOP - Godless Old Perverts /nt thbobby Jul 2018 #37
Womp womp! BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #38
Oh, I care, I care very much. I would like very much for him to go away. TNNurse Jul 2018 #40
Will he wear a blazer superpatriotman Jul 2018 #41
k&r DesertRat Jul 2018 #43
From the Democrat running against Jordan Gothmog Jul 2018 #45
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #64
Janet Garrettdeserves a lot of recognition for her bravery to run against this monster greatlaurel Jul 2018 #68
Lawyers for Ohio State contradict Jim Jordan's claim he's not been contacted about growing child sex Gothmog Jul 2018 #49
K&R ck4829 Jul 2018 #50
A bad guy for sure... BlueJac Jul 2018 #51
Jim... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #52
I didn't know what Jim Jordon Cha Jul 2018 #53
Why are the so called moral majority Party of clowns always Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #54
Yes, I care if the leader of the Koch/Freedom caucus falls! Hortensis Jul 2018 #59
If Jim is defeated and can't find employment, he NCjack Jul 2018 #60
too early to claim that Jordan is going down "Bigly"... beachbum bob Jul 2018 #63
Maybe Trump will try to pardon him. yellowcanine Jul 2018 #66
The Hastert Rule in action Zambero Jul 2018 #67
Betty Bowers-It's like Pizzagate. Only true. And bigger. And Republican. Gothmog Jul 2018 #69
Jordan's a lying, slimy snake who can't keep his story together. nt oasis Jul 2018 #74

kpete

(71,985 posts)
6. 1,500 to 2,000 college-aged boys may have been sexually assaulted or raped by the doctor
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jul 2018
1,500 to 2,000 college-aged boys may have been sexually assaulted or raped by a doctor who GOP Rep @Jim_Jordan allegedly protected from abuse complaints.




CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
46. I'm of two minds on the degree to which Jordan will be held accountable.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jul 2018


On one hand, as seen from the 49 states that aren't "round on the ends and HI in the middle" (OHIO), he's a republican so it's time to move on, nothing to see here.

But, when you're in Ohio and you're talking about disparaging the image of THE Ohio State University (that's pronounced "THEE&quot and their sports programs...them's fighting words. Even in rock hard red districts, the tie that binds is the spiritual connection to the red and grey of OSU. He may be in more trouble locally than is apparent on the national stage.

Doesn't make the district blue or even purple but Mr. Jordan could easily find himself on the outside looking in as his constituents weigh the allegation of those fine young alumni of the OSU sports programs.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
55. This is very true. It is a badge of honor to go to Ohio State...
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:44 AM
Jul 2018

I admit it...wanted my kids to go there so I could get alumni tickets. Ohio State is well loved. He brought disgrace to the the Ohio State and his statement yesterday was a lie. I think he will go down.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
58. So Many! I would have thought
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:50 AM
Jul 2018

that the athletes would have turned the Doctor in way back then.. seriously enough to get him sent to jail.

That's a hellava lot to keep under wraps. But apparently they had their reasons. I'm not blaming the boys.

Dr Strauss ended up committing suicide in 2005.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
18. I'm pretty sure you mean - true he's going down for it.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jul 2018

Your wording could use a little bit of clarification. I'm sure you mean you hope it is true he suffers the consequences of his actions or inactions on this. Not that that the abuse is true. Others seem to be reading a different meaning.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. Please, he is a Republican
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jul 2018

He won't be going anywhere unless there is video or audio. And there won't be from that long ago.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
30. sadly, you are correct...
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jul 2018

and not sure video or audio would make a difference... the Republicans are doing a pretty good job of sticking by "their own" these days... if they had any morals, a lot of people would be gone... starting with Trump

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. No big deal, just another Repervican sex abuse scandal, except - oops - it's gay sex abuse.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jul 2018

Now that will piss off his base.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
44. Butt-phuckery is part of their initiation rites, being in line with the boss
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jul 2018

When Ryan (he-man) told everyone that this was a secret. Just before the phone stopped recording.

No, the base is way below caring. The base is quite familiar with bestiality so a bit of brotherly love is part of their program.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
56. This is the Ohio State...I think he may very well go down. I live in Ohio where parents send their
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:48 AM
Jul 2018

kids to get an education and play sports the Ohio State at great personal sacrifice often. Other sports will be involved as well I expect. I sincerely hope that Jim Tressel is not involved or knew. He is at Youngstown right now and has done much good for the school and the area.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
4. This is not enough to bring this
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jul 2018

worthless guy down.

Don't get too excited when you see a tweet from Brian Krassenstein (I follow him on Twitter). He tends to be a little hyperbolic in his tweets.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. This is pretty study stuff:
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jul 2018

Three former wrestlers who spoke with NBC News say that Strauss would shower with the wrestlers and regularly touched them inappropriately. One of those students also claims that Jordan was told directly about the unwanted contact but did nothing to stop the doctor’s behavior.”

This Jordan is dearly, deeply loved by altright goons (per freerepublic)

well well well

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
7. Thoughts and Prayers
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jul 2018


It's a mystery: the swiftness of the self-righteous falling from Hog Heaven!

Have a nice journey, Jim!
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
16. It's still a R+14 seat.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jul 2018

They literally gerrymandered all the cities out of his district. I don't think it's flipped since 1936.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. His seat may have been safe yesterday
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jul 2018

But unfolding events have a way of putting "safe" seats into a more competitive configuration. This is why it's such a good idea to run a candidate for every office. Sure, it's no fun getting clobbered in a hostile district, and I can understand aspiring politicians being reluctant to run a hopeless campaign.

But every now and then . . . Well, just ask Senator Doug Jones of Alabama how things can change.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
17. Well his opponent seems good.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:34 PM
Jul 2018

Janet Garrett. She's a former kindergarten teacher who ran for this seat in 2014 and 2016 but only got 1/3 of the vote due to how gerrymandered his district is.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Excellent news
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jul 2018

I hope the DCCC can break loose a few dollars to sent Garrett's way. This could be a good pick-up opportunity, and force Republicans to spend money defending a seat they didn't think was going to need financial support.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
71. This is a good place for billboards. Specific ones that talk about the sexual abuse, in a well
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jul 2018

trafficked area

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
21. I fear you may be correct.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jul 2018

Looking at how the evangelicals have given 45 a pass for his behavior from the past and rather recent times they are likely to say it's too far in the past to affect him now. He's changed, he's asked for God's forgiveness and all that other BS they spout to excuse 45.

Seriously, AL still almost went for a sexual predator.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. So far today, this story is MASSIVE. "Jimjordan" has been trending at #5 on twitter all day...
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

a google will show you huge coverage on this story, INCLUDING one by Fox “News” posted (finally) just an hour ago.

From the Fox story:

”I remember I had a thumb injury and went into Strauss’ office and he started pulling down my wrestling shorts,” Dunyasha Yetts, who wrestled at Ohio State in 1993 and 1994, told NBC News. “I’m like, what the f--- are you doing? And I went out and told Russ and Jim what happened. I was not having it. They went in and talked to Strauss.”

Yetts added that the student athletes approached Jordan numerous times about Strauss.

“For God’s sake, Strauss’s locker was right next to Jordan’s and Jordan even said he’d kill him if he tried anything with him,” Yetts said.


I can’t see this story evaporating into the ozone anytime soon...
Of course, just my humble yet correct opinion...
Man oh man

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
39. Wow. I even posted about it and hadn't looked. The minions are going nuts.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jul 2018

It’s incredible how they just don’t give a damn when it’s a white male Republican.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
62. He swears he didn't know anything
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:56 AM
Jul 2018

about it.. Nothing.

But the athletes who were there remember it differently than the trump supporting.. one of the freedom caucus founders.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
19. Maybe he can join Denny Hastert for a match.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jul 2018

Seems to be a thing with GOP wrestling coaches. Either abuse the wrestlers or ignore it.

irisblue

(32,968 posts)
20. Ohio State University is being damaged by this too.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jul 2018

Regionally, the story is a big deal. From the Ohio group

Ohio State University announced in April that it was investigating accusations that Dr. Richard Strauss, who died in 2005, abused team members when he was the team doctor from the mid-1970s to late 1990. As of Friday, Jordan had not been questioned by the university-hired lawyers
Alex Moe
@AlexNBCNews
3 former wrestlers told NBC News it was common knowledge that Strauss showered regularly w/ the students & inappropriately touched them during appointments, & said it would have been impossible for Jordan to be unaware; one wrestler said he told Jordan directly about the abuse (link:


) twitter.com/alexnbcnews/st…


The university is almost the civic religion of central Ohio. You can start conversation about college sports & the weather anywhere .

The tentacles of this story goes back to the first time Gordon Gee was OSU president during this time. Current guy is Michael Drake. The blanketing of this is going to be a problem for OSU.

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
23. This is the FACE and BEHAVIOR of a loyalist. Time to fight dirty.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jul 2018

A loyalist to his his job at The Ohio State University years ago and a loyalist to Trump now. These loyalists have no ethics nor moral compass. They will turn a blind eye to criminal activity if it makes it easier to get ahead in life. They see no reason to protect anyone but themselves, including the young and vulnerable. They will refuse call out Trump on his misdeeds as long as Trump has power. Trump loyalists are dangerous like Jim Jordan.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
25. Are you saying that Trump loyalists have no ethical ot moral compass because
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jul 2018

they turned a blind eye??

You might want to check out the Harvey Weinstein fiasco.

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
31. I said to fight dirty. Harvey Weinstein and his enablers are indeed horrible
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

Harvey Weinstein ran an Entertainment Corporation and sexually harassed, threatened, and raped(?) women, finally got caught, and will face consequences. Weinstein's enablers (those that knew of his crimes, and I am NOT speaking of his victims, and kept quiet deserve to be shunned).

Trump runs the United State of America, and it will most likely be up to legislators that speak out against his crimes and unethical behavior for him to be either removed from office or put on a very short leash. Jordan's history of loyalty indicates he will do nothing.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
26. This is a new one story for me
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jul 2018

He needs to go. Why, because he condoned the actions and did nothing.

Amazing, Hastert is gone and more came out after he left. Now the guy grilling DOJ and FBI is in the same pit as Hastert. Likewise, there is the Pennsylvania situation.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
48. Wonder when we see the poles switch again - repugs become the party of "Let's party"
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jul 2018

And dems try to maintain law and order.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
32. I only hope it matters
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jul 2018

To the voters in his district. He is a terrible man. You can tell he’s gleeful his attacks on Mueller and his ridiculous support of Trump. A real pig for the shit if you will.

The way I see it - even if his turf is so gerrymandered that R’s hold it for the rest of my life I would still think it a small victory to see him gone.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
73. The District will not be gerrymandered after 2020
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jul 2018

We voted for an Independent Committee in May.
John Boehner did the dirty work for both his and Jordan’s District.

The irony here? Jordan hoped push Boehner out!

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
34. I wonder if Rosenstein
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jul 2018

might like to start an investigation into this. Jim Jordans friends called Rosenstein a liar after all.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
36. Molesting young college men brought down Jerry Sandusky and ruined the legacy of Joe Paterno.....
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jul 2018


Jim Jordon wil, go down too in scandal.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
57. Yep
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:50 AM
Jul 2018

Paterno and ex-president Graham Spanier, AD Curely and head of campus security Gary Schultz all had their lives destroyed for exactly the same thing Jordan's being accused of - knowing and not doing enough (in Jordan's case, nothing) to stop what was happening.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
70. There's one big difference in the Sandusky case
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jul 2018

The children involved in the Sandusky case were really young. Mostly 10, 11, 12 year olds and a few were even younger. They were raped and taken advantage of in the most hideous way.

So presumably these OSU college-age young men were a little older and wiser. One could almost argue that they consented, and I'm not saying that they did consent. It could be a possible defense, if this ever went to trial. I think it's more important to establish that Jim Jordan had the knowledge and ignored it. Getting some of the victims to testify against him would be most effective.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
38. Womp womp!
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jul 2018
Don't let the door hit ya you POS! He makes my skin crawl. He acts so superior (like Fuckubee Sanders). I will get some champaign and toast his demise.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
40. Oh, I care, I care very much. I would like very much for him to go away.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

I hope this takes him down.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
68. Janet Garrettdeserves a lot of recognition for her bravery to run against this monster
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jul 2018

I am going to scrape up a few dollars to send to her campaign. Everyone at DU who can spare a couple of bucks should send her campaign whatever they can spare.

Jim Jordan is a vile creature, which is why he has risen in the ranks of the traitorous and criminal GOP.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
52. Jim...
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:37 AM
Jul 2018

Jordon loves to defend criminals! I hope he loses his seat... there is something not quite right about this story, though... did the coach shower with students or rape 1,500-2,000 of them?

Cha

(297,154 posts)
53. I didn't know what Jim Jordon
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:39 AM
Jul 2018

had been accused of.. and then I just read this tonight..

Powerful GOP Rep. Jim Jordan accused of turning blind eye to sexual abuse as Ohio State wrestling coach

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386

A well written, in-depth article with several people alleging that Jim Jordan knew about the athletes being sexually abused by Dr Richard Strauss.

One said he was asked by Jim Jordan to "leave him out of it".

These are Jim Jordan's credentials..

"Jordan, a founder of the House Freedom Caucus, a group of the most conservative representatives, is a staunch ally of President Donald Trump and is frequently mentioned as a possible replacement for the speaker of the House, Paul Ryan."

Freedom Caucus my Democratic

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
54. Why are the so called moral majority Party of clowns always
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:42 AM
Jul 2018

associated with this? They want to ban gay marriage and allow discrimination but they look the other way with sexual abusers of young men...is it so prevalent in their circles that this is the relatively normal?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Yes, I care if the leader of the Koch/Freedom caucus falls!
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:53 AM
Jul 2018

Bigly!

Reportedly, after Jordan's despicable attacks on Rod Rosenstein last week, including his ridiculously ignorant insinuation that Rosenstein subpoenaed phone calls, donations quadrupled to his Democratic opponent, Janet Garrett.

Bet they're quadrupling again as he suddenly looks...possibly in trouble.


NCjack

(10,279 posts)
60. If Jim is defeated and can't find employment, he
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jul 2018

can fall onto the Nation's safety net -- the one that he is trying to destroy. When he gets lonely in Ohio, he can immigrate to the Pacific shore of Mexico, and suck on Mexican social systems. Lot's of Republican ex-pats there. The socialized healthcare is cheap, the socialized transportation is cheap, hell -- it's all cheap there. And, for Jim, there are lot's of teenage males. I don't wish him on the Mexicans, but just explaining to Jim he still has options after he gets tossed out of Congress.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
67. The Hastert Rule in action
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jul 2018

Abuse of kids is acceptable. Go on to bigger and better things. Don't worry about any consequences until actually ratted out, then deny everything.

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