Trump wants to meet with Putin alone, with no other aides present on either side.

[sunonmars]

THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

Link to tweet

Trump wants to meet with Putin alone, with no other aides present on either side, in Helsinki this month. That means no note-takers, witnesses, or official record.

......................

[wcmagumba]

1. He is a stupid stupid man..

and a traitor!

[gratuitous]

17. That's a mighty big "if"

The chances are far better that the Lakers will win the NBA title next year (Spoiler alert: they won't make it out of the second round if they qualify for the playoffs).

[smirkymonkey]

19. What makes you think it would make the world a safer place.

Knowing how corrupt and evil the two of them are, it is likely to be just the opposite. Trump is just angling for some kind of "deal" that will bail him out of his personal financial problems and he's willing to sell out our country to get it.

[smirkymonkey]

25. Because it's Putin and Trump.

They could give a shit about humanity. They only care about enriching themselves and consolidating power. Peace is not on the agenda, I assure you. Putin is using Trump to destabilize western Europe AND the US. If anything, it will create more war and destruction.

[LiberalLovinLug]

38. I agree with Smirkymonkey

This isn't Obama / Gorbachev, or even Reagan / Gorbachev, or Nixon / Mao.

I can't believe you even have to ask "What makes you think it wouldn't"

Trump is using the trope that its better to be friends than enemies, better to get along than fight. (But only with brutal authoritarian regimes not allies) That is just a clever mask for him to enrich himself and his family, and Putin get's the same deal as well when we lift sanctions. It is about a meeting to share information, some top level top secrets, whatever he has to do to get a hotel in Moscow.

One may say, "well....whatever works!" Two billionaires and their billionaire class of oligarchs dividing up the rest of the worlds riches and properties for themselves in subversive ways. At least they are not ordering nuclear strikes. But meanwhile, no stoppage of free wheel spending on the military or nuclear weapons. And maybe more important, no criticism by either towards the other about draconian policies against their own peoples, rights, and freedoms. It will be how to coordinate their businesses to avoid paying taxes, to avoid police interference, and to stamp out climate regulations, and freedom of the press, social spending, etc... in order for both to remain in power. How each other can help the other in furthering a world fascist order with them at the helm. The opposite of peace.

edit: I guess the newbie was escorted out. Sometimes I think we are too rash on newbies. They may have been a troll, but also may have just been young or naive. What is the message when we can't even have a dialogue about a topic? It is one that I haven't seen discussed much. The way that Trump is manipulating the message with the 'on paper' acceptable premise that being friends is preferable than enemies. But how Trump is only using that to consolidate his power and create a much more gloomier world.

[marble falls]

29. Don't forget the unicorns......

Kids really like unicorns.

[elias7]

35. You do realize the Steele dossier says Trump has been cultivated and directed by Putin, don't you?

If you don't see red flags here, I have to ask where have been for the past two years.

What do you want for your children, more of what we've been seeing at the border?

Get effin real

[PatrickforO]

54. This was an interesting thread. I suspect someone has hurt feelings.

This is another bad decision on Trump's part. Not necessarily the meeting, but definitely the alone part. Just a bad idea.

Plus, as someone else on this particular sub-thread points out, Trump is all squishy-fuzzy when he meets disgusting dictators, but he threw a tantrum at the recent G7 summit and threw a piece of candy at Angela Merkel.

Every day a new outrage with this imbecile, eh?

[brush]

57. Stupid, yeah, but also cunning and treasonous with something to hide.

Why else would he even intimate that he wants to meet with no witnesses?

Fucking traitor. And if the rest of his admin. and the repugs in Congress allows this to happen they are also traitors.

[pnwmom]

2. Oh, right. No notetakers. Just a room that's heavily bugged. And since when

does DT speak Russian?

[sunonmars]

6. probably maybe he is the ultimated deep planted agent.

[jberryhill]

7. Why would Trump need to speak Russian?

[Brother Buzz]

9. Um, I understand Putin has a a better grasp of English than Melania does

and that's not saying much.

[3catwoman3]

62. He probably has a bigger vocabulary...

...than Trump.

[BSdetect]

3. He wants his evaluation kept secret. Traitor.

[JHB]

45. And preserve the secret of the orange ring on Putin's... anatomy.

[Leghorn21]

4. Bill Browder, the bravest man in the world - and #1 on Putin's hit list - has grave concerns:

What are the odds that Putin brings up his obsession to
repeal the Magnitsky Act in his one-on-one meeting with Trump
(without aides present) at the US Russia summit in Helsinki?

Link to tweet

[lark]

5. I'd bet $100 there will be other russians there, there always is when they meet.

It's just there will be no other Americans because drumpf is not in charge and has to hide that he's nothing more than a Putin puppet and is getting orders on how to steal the next election, who Putin wants as next SCOTUS, us leaving Syria and how he wants drumpf to destroy NATO and fuck up all liberal democracies world wide. RT will show pictures of the meeting, as they always do, but no US press will see them during the meeting itself.

[Demovictory9]

8. to beg about his loans?

[Girard442]

10. What is said is irrelevant. What IS relevant is that they are thumbing their noses at us.

Conducting business with no witnesses or record, like the dictators they are.

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Their blow jobs must be private. And It's easier for Agolf Twitler to hand

over top secret information.

[FSogol]

22. Agolf Twitler!

[dalton99a]

28. Maybe Putin will shit in his mouth

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. They'll be discussing their plans for the midterms. Hand counted paper ballots NOW please. nt

[empedocles]

13. No witnesses

[Gothmog]

14. But performance reviews are normally kept confidential

Putin needs to review trump's efforts on behalf of Mother Russia

[hvn_nbr_2]

66. Status reports too.

And that is what Trumputin's private meetings are: status reports and performance reviews.

[Hortensis]

15. Again. Laws limiting our activities are always passed after

they become necessary, but who'd have thought we'd need a law to keep one of our presidents from engaging in undocumented, possibly treasonous activities?

Outside a novel written to entertain, of course.

[dalton99a]

20. Goddamn traitor.

[Mr. Ected]

21. When the President is under investigation for collusion with Russia

Much of which can be culled from public reporting, in any other world, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, he would demand that his meetings with Putin be memorialized.

This one? He's off acting guilty of the crime again.

When is this shitshow going to end? Please God let it end.

[BlueSea]

23. RE:Trump wants no historical record of his opening talks with Putin at summit - Daily Kos

This cannot happen! Is there NO ONE who can stop this 1:1 that they are going to have? The entire world is watching and no one can do a thing about it? Seriously?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/3/1777756/-Trump-wants-no-historical-record-of-his-opening-talks-with-Putin-at-summit

[dhol82]

51. My feelings exactly

how is it that the whole freaking congress can’t pull their shit together and stop this?
Appalling!

[rickford66]

26. You can be sure Putin will record the meeting.

You think Trump would frisk him for a wire ?

[yallerdawg]

27. Did you EVER think...

Putin would come out as the more credible and reliable source in a conversation with an American president?

[Mc Mike]

30. I'll bet. rec,nt

[UTUSN]

31. Like when he begged COMEY, "Please, sir, am I being investigated?"

[ornotna]

32. I'm ok with this

But the CIA must insist that he wear Maxwell Smart's shoes.

[yurbud]

33. like Bush & Cheney wanting to talk to 9/11 Commission with out recording or even note-taking...

It sure as hell raises more suspicions than it quells.

[dhol82]

53. And holding their hands together

Boy did that stink.

[yurbud]

67. contrast with Hillary & Benghazi...doesn't that make her braver than them?

[dhol82]

69. Hillary is braver than all of them.

[yurbud]

70. at the very least, we know she can withstand a shitstorm of mud being thrown at her

after a decade on Republicans talking about Bill's dick and making up various bizarre theories about her, she stayed in the game.

I don't agree with her on some policies, but she is tough.

[heaven05]

34. well

that's understandable since trump dumper wouldn't want anyone to hear him getting his marching orders, among other things, from his boss.

[Freethinker65]

36. The world will have to trust Trump (haha) and rely on his memory of what information was exchanged

What could possibly go wrong?

I seem to remember when Trump met with Russian Nationals in the Oval Office he gave out information that was considered classified. Of course the excuse was, once Trump blurts something out because he is President, the information is deemed no longer classified or some bullshit like that.

If I were Putin, I would tape every word of it and add it to the kompromat they already have on Trump.

[Dan]

37. That's not unusual, when I get my performance appraisal - it's just me and my boss.

[tavernier]

39. That's awfully far to travel for a BJ.

But Putin’s got the money.

[Augiedog]

40. That's the very definition of Collusion

[salin]

41. right, no one else will be listening in. What a fool.

Corrected: what a dangerous fool - or what a malignant traitor - depending on one's view. Not much room for any other assessment.

[AdamGG]

48. Malignant, traitorous, dangerous fool

They're not mutually exclusive.

[salin]

61. True.

All seem to be in play.

[marieo1]

42. minngal

Nooooooooooooo!!!

[Butterflylady]

43. Of course,

doesn't want anyone to see him kissing Putin's ass, literally that is.

[janx]

44. Translator(s) ?

They will need at least one.

[SunSeeker]

60. Putin speaks English, probably better than Trump.

He also speaks fluent German, from his days with KGB in East Germany. Yet he insists on using an interpreter when in public. I heard Putin thinks being seen speaking to another leader in that leader's language is a sign of weakness and submission.

[MaryMagdaline]

46. Employee evaluation time

[AdamGG]

47. He already did this last year when he went to Putin's table for over an hour @ G20 w/o US translator

It's too bad Mueller can't get a hidden microphone in that meeting. It's more suspicious than the meeting room in John Gotti's social club and the stakes are far higher.

[FakeNoose]

49. Trump doesn't speak Russian, Putin doesn't speak English

What's he planning on using, sign language? Even that would be tricky.

[kwassa]

58. Putin does speak English ...

Russian President Vladimir Putin may have been praising Donald Trump’s listening skills last week but on Monday, his own abilities as a good speaker were receiving plaudits. Putin’s English, seldom heard by western audiences, is good enough to correct his translators, according to the man hired to speak on Putin’s behalf.

“In free discourse, at the sidelines of summits, he often speaks in English by himself,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the state-run Rossiya 1 television channel on Monday, talking about how Putin approached other leaders at the G20 summit. “But during negotiations and when he is conducting an official meeting, of course he communicates, through a translator.”

“However he practically understands English completely and sometimes even corrects the translators,” Peskov said. “A translator will always have a crisis moment. I worked as a translator at a high level myself, which is why I am familiar with the stress of it.”

http://www.newsweek.com/does-putin-speak-english-kremlin-634048

[erronis]

50. The transceiver/AI unit needs to be replaced. It's a delicate operation

with the KGB agent inserting a steel stallion way up the patient's derriere. There may be screams and blood but in the end the patient will be much more controllable.

[calimary]

52. Of course he wants to meet with Putin alone!

Gotta pick up his next marching orders from his boss. It wouldn’t be cool to have anybody else around.

[Dr Vegas]

55. I understand..,

didn't Bette Midler tweet about this last week?

[lapfog_1]

56. Sauron meets Saruman

Orders from Mordor!

But why use the Palantir when you can just fly over to Helsinki and meet your master?

[kwassa]

59. So what? Trump never takes responsibility for anything he says.

and Putin knows this, too. Nothing they say in this meeting is binding, because nothing with Trump is binding.

[DallasNE]

63. This Makes Perfect Sense

With no official record to trip him up he can make all kinds of wild claims with the American people and who can dispute it. Trust but verify is now inoperable.

[librechik]

64. Don't worry. The Russians will tell us what happened.

[spanone]

65. russia will be recording it in Dolby 5.1 surround sound

[treestar]

68. Won't they need an interpreter?

Surely Trumpenfuerhrer knows no Russian and I read somewhere earlier today that Vlad doesn't know much English.