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applegrove

(118,503 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:00 PM Jul 2018

MSNBC's Ali Velshi Drops A Fact Check Bomb On Trump's MS-13 Invasion Lie

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/03/msnbcs-ali-velshi-drops-a-fact-check-bomb-on-trumps-ms-13-invasion-lie.html

"SNIP..........


Velshi ran through the real MS-13 immigration numbers and said, “Let me just repeat those numbers. 180 ms-13 gang members caught at the border out of 187,000 people who are detained at the border. This isn’t the number of people who cross at the border, this number with this as the denominator. That means ms-13 members after the 300% increase, make up less than 1% of the people detained at the border. This is not an invasion.”

Trump’s MS-13 invasion is a lie
Trump has been using the claim that MS-13 is invading America as a pretext for his bigoted immigration policy. The fact is that MS-13 is not invading America, and that gang members and criminals make up a tiny number of immigrants apprehended on the border. Trump is using this lie to scare the Republican base into getting out to vote in the midterms. It is not Barack Obama who is coming to get scared white Republicans anymore. It’s MS-13. The playbook is the same, only the boogeyman has changed.

The White House is also falsely claiming that anyone who doesn’t want babies ripped away from their parents and locked in cages is pro-MS-13. The official White House Twitter account used this line of attack on potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidates Sens. Elizabeth Warren (MA) and Kamala Harris (CA). MS-13 is a very violent gang, but they are falsely used as political cover for a racist immigration policy.

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applegrove

(118,503 posts)
1. I wonder what the percentages would be for Russians? Including white collar criminals and
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jul 2018

election rat f***ers. Probably miniscule numbers too. Most people are good people including immigrants.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
2. About time somebody did.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jul 2018

Better yet, seems safe to assume ANYTHING that comes out of donald’s Mouth is a lie. He’s had the fork in his tongue cosmetically covered, though.

Squinch

(50,922 posts)
4. This whole MS13 hysteria mongering needs to be exposed for the
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jul 2018

lies it is over and over again until people realize how ridiculous this shit is.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. He also claims
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jul 2018

democrats want open borders when in May of 2015 the deportation numbers were thousands higher than in 2018 in May were much much lower, and remember President Obama was called the Deporter in Chief by many people on both sides of the border. Everything trump has claimed is BS, and he knows its BS, but he has some believing his propaganda . That's why he attacks the DOJ, it deals in the truth, and that's his worse enemy.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
8. Trump Offers the Same Message as What Those EMS Tests on Radio Should Say:
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 07:21 PM
Jul 2018

“To keep paranoia at the proper level....”

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
12. I noticed the verbal math error this afternoon. It is not just less than 1%.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:08 PM
Jul 2018

It is less than one-tenth of 1%. The number was 0.096%. That rounds to 0.1%.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
14. There were 403 murders in Virginia. 3 were from MS13.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

and Virginia and Maryland are areas were they are relatively active.

By the way, MS13 is an American gang. It formed in Los Angeles, and members were later deported back to El Salvador.

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