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Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:10 PM Jul 2018

Why does Don hate America so much?

Last edited Wed Jul 4, 2018, 08:04 AM - Edit history (1)

The Russians have the goods on one man, and installed him as president, and 340 million Americans have to watch this/his drama on tv 24/7, and suffer the consequences. What in the world do they have on him? What in the world are they compromising him with? Must be pretty good stuff. Maybe each meeting w Putin dt gets back part of what they have? Oh the disgrace.
He has pulled out of several long standing treaties, bad mouthed our allies, and has negotiated for Russia to come back to the G-7 etc. Literally surrendered Syria to Russia after Americans have died there to save the country from Assad. Must be all branches of the military are just fine with it bc I hear zero from the generals about their discomfort with the same. We had years of hearings bc some State Dept folks died in Benghazi as ancillary casualties that they then tried to blame/scapegoat on (the true president) President H Clinton...Now not a word of surrendering the lives lost in Syria? Assad gassed his people, (among other things.)and is Russias ally.
Why does dt hate America so much?
Wtf is he afraid they will disclose? Seriously. What could they have that would make a man turn on his country and our allies in such a fashion? Bigger question...what in the world is in store for us next?
Happy independence Day Week.

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Why does Don hate America so much? (Original Post) Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 OP
PeePee Tapes dhol82 Jul 2018 #1
Seems the pee pee tapes are pretty effin tame. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #2
I think the bazillion dollars he owes to Putin is more to the point dhol82 Jul 2018 #5
Could very well be... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #6
Yep, it's about money. I don't think it has anything to do with a sex tape. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #10
dt just hates rules, anthing that deters his freedom to do whatever he feels like doing OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #11
Yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #16
I'm guessing private room. just guessing OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #17
Probably... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #18
i'm thinking pedo tapes, with or without the peepee 0rganism Jul 2018 #20
Amazing post. Thanks & Happy Independence Day! appalachiablue Jul 2018 #3
Thank you. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #7
Because he failed at his businesses and couldn't get any more money JI7 Jul 2018 #4
There is no evidence to suggest Donnie is doing this against his will unblock Jul 2018 #8
Which makes me wonder what description of a lunatic he is.. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #9
He hates us because we don't love him enough. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #12
An he will put us all in a Hurt Locker... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #14
Donald Only Loves Himself colsohlibgal Jul 2018 #13
It's no accident they picked him. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #15
It's not that, he wants ultimate power AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #19
I agree w most of what you have said. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #21
unequal power AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #22
Keep your chin up Alex. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #23
No doubt he is studying Stalin as well OhNo-Really Jul 2018 #24
I think you've nailed it. n/t Chemisse Jul 2018 #30
President H Clinton? Please edit your post. It was good until I got to that. Nt raccoon Jul 2018 #25
Hillary won. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #27
He likes no body, he is just a Con Man... BlueJac Jul 2018 #26
It's not so much that he hates America, but that he loves himself. His needs - real and imagined - Vinca Jul 2018 #28
It translates to hating America when you destroy it from within in my book. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #29

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
1. PeePee Tapes
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:14 PM
Jul 2018

Seems bizarre but it’s the only thing I can come up with.
Well, aside from the billions of dollars of loans from the Russian oligarchs.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
2. Seems the pee pee tapes are pretty effin tame.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jul 2018

Myself I think the orange man is on tape doing far worse. Far worse.
Maybe he really did shoot someone on 5th Ave.?

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
5. I think the bazillion dollars he owes to Putin is more to the point
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jul 2018

He is scared shitless of getting the polonium tea. Or the ricin needle stick.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Yep, it's about money. I don't think it has anything to do with a sex tape.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jul 2018

First of all, Trump is shameless and would find a way to spin it into a positive or a Democratic plot. Secondly, in the face of all the things he has done already, and the fact that the rumors are out there already, the actual revealation would be pretty anti-climactic.

I am pretty sure it has to do with either a loan that Russia has made to Trump that they will call or a promise of another loan that he desperately needs. I could be wrong, but that is my guess. Trump will promise them anything as long as they invest and support his personal interests.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
11. dt just hates rules, anthing that deters his freedom to do whatever he feels like doing
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:17 PM
Jul 2018

retaliation for military school

his dad is evil looking

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
16. Yes.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:31 PM
Jul 2018

His dad resembles Snidely Whiplash. Probably mutual hatred for each other. Four years in military school is indicative of a long term problemo with his dad and his dads idea of good behavior. Can you imagine the poor son of a bitch who had to be his room mate?

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
18. Probably...
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:51 PM
Jul 2018

But in military school....that's part of the deal...you're there to be broken down. The number one lesson..."You can't Always get What You Want."
I suppose you're right though. Rich folks Rules.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
20. i'm thinking pedo tapes, with or without the peepee
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:17 AM
Jul 2018

the hookers + urine thing is pretty tame stuff at this point, it has to be seriously high stakes.
something far darker, surely.
maybe snuff-film pedo footage which directly implicates one or more human trafficker ringleaders, maybe his sons.
seems like it has to be that bad.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
8. There is no evidence to suggest Donnie is doing this against his will
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jul 2018

I think putin is offering him plenty in the way of carrot, and has never needed to use the stick.

Donnie does not at all act conflicted.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. He hates us because we don't love him enough.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:24 PM
Jul 2018

Bottom line. He is a very vengeful person. He is filled with hatred and will do anything to get back at those whom he has thinks have wronged him. He will never let it go.

As far as he is concerned, half of the people in this country have betrayed him and he will never forgive or forget. Also, he doesn't really give a damn about his base.

He only cares about them in that they are his narcissistic supply. He needs their adoration, but he doesn't really care about them. We are seeing this now as he is screwing them over economically. He believes he can always rely on their vote. They are just that stupid and brainwashed enough to give it to him.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
13. Donald Only Loves Himself
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jul 2018

If we survive this travesty of a President Drumpf might join Benedict Arnold and John Wilkes Booth on our National Total Dishonor list.

Incompetent, Immoral, Immature, he checks all those boxes. Oh and Unlikeable.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
15. It's no accident they picked him.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jul 2018

He's had his grubby mitt in politics since about 2004. This wasn't his first run for president. The Commies have been grooming him and gathering the requisite bad news on him for quite a while. He is SO stupid...can you imagine how many hookers ALONE have approached him in his life time and he went to bed w them...just like the porn star. Macho egotism bc he has a small penis.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
19. It's not that, he wants ultimate power
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 01:52 AM
Jul 2018

he is pathological narcissist beyond help. Remember, he was considering running for president for at least two decades. Back then as reform party which platform is similar to what he is doing now: anti free trade, anti immigration, isolationist/nationalistic, racist, etc. His views have been shaping for decades. He wanted to run in 2012 but let romney have it and after Obama won, he was all set to launch a run. But it is those meetings with putin-linked russians over the last few years (at least from 2012) allowed him to see a viable path to presidency. You bet he learned about active measures and propaganda disinformation campaign led by putin worldwide after Magnitsky Act was passed. This was the turning point - Obama became number one enemy of Putin. Soon EU countries also joined in the Magnitsky Act and it was clear to Putin that he must break EU. Larger than life military grade disinformation campaign was launched in Ukraine. Crimea residents were violently polarized against the rest of Ukraine. Annexation of Crimea was proof of concept the info war was effective and the technology is ripe. Putin committed fascist atrocities in the region and got away with it with at least 90% support of russian population who previosuly held Ukraine as the closest ally (‘brother’) turned into deadly enemies over a few months period. This was possible because putin controls all media in Russia. Trump wants exactly that. Rebuild USA following Russia’s model. Converting liberal democracy into oligarchy. The idea is to destroy every insitution in the US, undermine constituition, etc. Remember, Bannon’s vision as a leninist he wants everything crashing down. Trump wants to rebuild entire country even if it means world war and going against our used to be allies EU along with Russia.
What putin has on trump is every piece of information how he was basically enlisted by russian government to undermine US and EU, not to mention enormous international money laundeirng operation. Remember, putin has $250B estimated personal wealth that he cant always easily access. Bottomline - trump needs putin just like putin needs trump to accomplish all of the above. The impossible becomes possible. The new nationalistic global order with USA and Russia controlling the power and making sure China does not develop fast (China is enemy #1 for Bannon). Without EU and NATO, European countries are much weaker allowing Putin to pursue his long time dream of restoring Soviet Union by annexing those territories without interferences from US, EU and anyone else really (China, Japan, etc. will never care about that). All those people, miller, sessions, bannon, etc. are really just means to an end.

To conclude, trump does not necessarily hate everyone or hates America, he simply does not care about anyone or anything. He’ll stop at nothing to continue on with his goal of achieving ultimate power over everyone. The point of no return has long passed. He is the most dangerous person in the world.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
21. I agree w most of what you have said.
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:30 AM
Jul 2018

but, I still think the basic idea of changing everything points directly at hating us for an alternative. You cant be a patriot and hate your country. He's not smart enough to flip this country. Theres 340 million of us who may have an opinion on that.
you have a great memory. Great post. Good insight, thanks. Happy 4th of July.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
22. unequal power
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:35 AM
Jul 2018

it’s not about the numbers but amount of power. A narcissist like trump can’t possibly be patriot because it’s only him that matters. Perharps he hates the system and constitution because it’s too restrictive for him.
Happy 4th! Although I don’t feel like celebrating it this year.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
28. It's not so much that he hates America, but that he loves himself. His needs - real and imagined -
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 08:03 AM
Jul 2018

are his only concern. He doesn't even care about his family all that much. The man is seriously, mentally ill and it's frightening.

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