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The Russians have the goods on one man, and installed him as president, and 340 million Americans have to watch this/his drama on tv 24/7, and suffer the consequences. What in the world do they have on him? What in the world are they compromising him with? Must be pretty good stuff. Maybe each meeting w Putin dt gets back part of what they have? Oh the disgrace.
He has pulled out of several long standing treaties, bad mouthed our allies, and has negotiated for Russia to come back to the G-7 etc. Literally surrendered Syria to Russia after Americans have died there to save the country from Assad. Must be all branches of the military are just fine with it bc I hear zero from the generals about their discomfort with the same. We had years of hearings bc some State Dept folks died in Benghazi as ancillary casualties that they then tried to blame/scapegoat on (the true president) President H Clinton...Now not a word of surrendering the lives lost in Syria? Assad gassed his people, (among other things.)and is Russias ally.
Why does dt hate America so much?
Wtf is he afraid they will disclose? Seriously. What could they have that would make a man turn on his country and our allies in such a fashion? Bigger question...what in the world is in store for us next?
Happy independence Day Week.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Seems bizarre but its the only thing I can come up with.
Well, aside from the billions of dollars of loans from the Russian oligarchs.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Myself I think the orange man is on tape doing far worse. Far worse.
Maybe he really did shoot someone on 5th Ave.?
dhol82
(9,352 posts)He is scared shitless of getting the polonium tea. Or the ricin needle stick.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)he hates America. The perfect Manchurian Candidate for Putin.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)First of all, Trump is shameless and would find a way to spin it into a positive or a Democratic plot. Secondly, in the face of all the things he has done already, and the fact that the rumors are out there already, the actual revealation would be pretty anti-climactic.
I am pretty sure it has to do with either a loan that Russia has made to Trump that they will call or a promise of another loan that he desperately needs. I could be wrong, but that is my guess. Trump will promise them anything as long as they invest and support his personal interests.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)retaliation for military school
his dad is evil looking
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)His dad resembles Snidely Whiplash. Probably mutual hatred for each other. Four years in military school is indicative of a long term problemo with his dad and his dads idea of good behavior. Can you imagine the poor son of a bitch who had to be his room mate?
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)But in military school....that's part of the deal...you're there to be broken down. The number one lesson..."You can't Always get What You Want."
I suppose you're right though. Rich folks Rules.
0rganism
(23,944 posts)the hookers + urine thing is pretty tame stuff at this point, it has to be seriously high stakes.
something far darker, surely.
maybe snuff-film pedo footage which directly implicates one or more human trafficker ringleaders, maybe his sons.
seems like it has to be that bad.
appalachiablue
(41,127 posts)Keep the faith!
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Appreciated.
JI7
(89,247 posts)unblock
(52,196 posts)I think putin is offering him plenty in the way of carrot, and has never needed to use the stick.
Donnie does not at all act conflicted.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)no offense to lunatics.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Bottom line. He is a very vengeful person. He is filled with hatred and will do anything to get back at those whom he has thinks have wronged him. He will never let it go.
As far as he is concerned, half of the people in this country have betrayed him and he will never forgive or forget. Also, he doesn't really give a damn about his base.
He only cares about them in that they are his narcissistic supply. He needs their adoration, but he doesn't really care about them. We are seeing this now as he is screwing them over economically. He believes he can always rely on their vote. They are just that stupid and brainwashed enough to give it to him.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)until we surrender to him.
Good post Monkey. ty.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)If we survive this travesty of a President Drumpf might join Benedict Arnold and John Wilkes Booth on our National Total Dishonor list.
Incompetent, Immoral, Immature, he checks all those boxes. Oh and Unlikeable.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)He's had his grubby mitt in politics since about 2004. This wasn't his first run for president. The Commies have been grooming him and gathering the requisite bad news on him for quite a while. He is SO stupid...can you imagine how many hookers ALONE have approached him in his life time and he went to bed w them...just like the porn star. Macho egotism bc he has a small penis.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)he is pathological narcissist beyond help. Remember, he was considering running for president for at least two decades. Back then as reform party which platform is similar to what he is doing now: anti free trade, anti immigration, isolationist/nationalistic, racist, etc. His views have been shaping for decades. He wanted to run in 2012 but let romney have it and after Obama won, he was all set to launch a run. But it is those meetings with putin-linked russians over the last few years (at least from 2012) allowed him to see a viable path to presidency. You bet he learned about active measures and propaganda disinformation campaign led by putin worldwide after Magnitsky Act was passed. This was the turning point - Obama became number one enemy of Putin. Soon EU countries also joined in the Magnitsky Act and it was clear to Putin that he must break EU. Larger than life military grade disinformation campaign was launched in Ukraine. Crimea residents were violently polarized against the rest of Ukraine. Annexation of Crimea was proof of concept the info war was effective and the technology is ripe. Putin committed fascist atrocities in the region and got away with it with at least 90% support of russian population who previosuly held Ukraine as the closest ally (brother) turned into deadly enemies over a few months period. This was possible because putin controls all media in Russia. Trump wants exactly that. Rebuild USA following Russias model. Converting liberal democracy into oligarchy. The idea is to destroy every insitution in the US, undermine constituition, etc. Remember, Bannons vision as a leninist he wants everything crashing down. Trump wants to rebuild entire country even if it means world war and going against our used to be allies EU along with Russia.
What putin has on trump is every piece of information how he was basically enlisted by russian government to undermine US and EU, not to mention enormous international money laundeirng operation. Remember, putin has $250B estimated personal wealth that he cant always easily access. Bottomline - trump needs putin just like putin needs trump to accomplish all of the above. The impossible becomes possible. The new nationalistic global order with USA and Russia controlling the power and making sure China does not develop fast (China is enemy #1 for Bannon). Without EU and NATO, European countries are much weaker allowing Putin to pursue his long time dream of restoring Soviet Union by annexing those territories without interferences from US, EU and anyone else really (China, Japan, etc. will never care about that). All those people, miller, sessions, bannon, etc. are really just means to an end.
To conclude, trump does not necessarily hate everyone or hates America, he simply does not care about anyone or anything. Hell stop at nothing to continue on with his goal of achieving ultimate power over everyone. The point of no return has long passed. He is the most dangerous person in the world.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)but, I still think the basic idea of changing everything points directly at hating us for an alternative. You cant be a patriot and hate your country. He's not smart enough to flip this country. Theres 340 million of us who may have an opinion on that.
you have a great memory. Great post. Good insight, thanks. Happy 4th of July.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)its not about the numbers but amount of power. A narcissist like trump cant possibly be patriot because its only him that matters. Perharps he hates the system and constitution because its too restrictive for him.
Happy 4th! Although I dont feel like celebrating it this year.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Thanks for your insight.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)good grief the Koch bros dad worked for Stali
Chemisse
(30,809 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)I won't change it.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)and traitor!!!!
Vinca
(50,267 posts)are his only concern. He doesn't even care about his family all that much. The man is seriously, mentally ill and it's frightening.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Happy 4th of July!!