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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell here's a turd that was dropped tonight
11:06 pm
A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit alleging that President Donald Trump's campaign and former Trump adviser Roger Stone conspired with Russia and WikiLeaks to publish hacked Democratic National Committee emails during the 2016 presidential race.
U.S. District Court Judge Ellen Huvelle said in a ruling Tuesday evening that the suit's efforts to tie the Trump campaign and Stone's alleged actions to the nation's capital were too flimsy for the case to proceed in a Washington, D.C., court.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/03/trump-dnc-hacking-693965
The ratfucker Stone is getting off.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Appeal reviews procedural mistakes as well for due process. Not just facts etc.
Just bc a case died doesn't mean w new evidence it can be re-opened or re-filed I bet. Just a bet though...from watching Ironsides and Petrocelli.
Takket
(21,555 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Two DNC donors, Roy Cockrum and Eric Schoenberg, and former DNC staffer Scott Comer, filed the suit last year, alleging that the hacking invaded their privacy and that the Trump campaign and Stone had a role in unlawful activity.
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It wasnt dismissed on any substantive grounds. It was more of a stunt suit.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)The plaintiffs are 3 individuals; this is not a special prosecutor's action.
Plaintiffs assert that defendants engaged in a conspiracy with unidentified Russian agents and WikiLeaks to publish hacked emails. They bring two tort claims under D.C. law, one alleging a conspiracy to violate plaintiffs privacy rights by publicly disclosing private facts and the other alleging a conspiracy to subject plaintiffs to intentional infliction of emotional distress. They also bring a federal claim under 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3), alleging a conspiracy to violate plaintiffs right to give support or advocacy to their chosen political candidate.
For the reasons stated below, the Court concludes that it lacks personal jurisdiction over defendants and, alternatively,that Washington D.C.is not the proper venue for plaintiffs suit. The Court will grant defendants motions to dismiss, deny plaintiffs motion, and dismiss plaintiffs suit without prejudice.
2 Given this ruling, the Court does not address defendants arguments that the complaint fails to allege sufficient facts to sustain a claim for tortious civil conspiracies or a conspiracy under 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3).
3 Although the Court will explain the distinction between personal jurisdiction and the merits in detail below, it bears emphasizing that this Courts ruling is not based on a finding that there was no collusion between defendants and Russia during the 2016 presidential election.
(bolding added)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4573247-Memorandum-amp-Opinion.html
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)doesn't mean that Mueller wont.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)spooky3
(34,438 posts)In essence that the case was dismissed on technical grounds relating to the choice of DC vs another venue, and not on the merits of the suit. The lawyers plan to file it in another venue.
How that relates to flimsy isnt clear.
Petosky Stone
(52 posts)A bitter pill.
Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)This doesn't "exonerate" Stone, it just dismisses this case, while categorically pointing out that no declaration of guilt or innocence should be implied. In other words, this does nothing to whatever other cases might be brought against Stone, especially whatever Mueller's team might come up with.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,670 posts)"The Trump Campaigns efforts to elect President Trump in D.C. are not suit-related contacts for those efforts did not involve acts taken in furtherance of the conspiracies to disseminate emails that harmed plaintiffs," wrote Huvelle, an appointee of President Bill Clinton. "Campaign meetings, canvassing voters, and other regular business activities of a political campaign do not constitute activities related to the conspiracies alleged in the complaint."
But Huvelle made clear that her decision was a technical one based on issues of legal jurisdiction and was not a definitive ruling on allegations that the Trump campaign struck an illicit deal with the Russians during the presidential contest.
"It bears emphasizing that this Courts ruling is not based on a finding that there was no collusion between defendants and Russia during the 2016 presidential election," Huvelle wrote. "This is the wrong forum for plaintiffs lawsuit. The Court takes no position on the merits of plaintiffs claims."
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's an attention-grabbing headline, but the suit, and this decision, are of relatively no significant consequence.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)All kinds of people file all kinds of civil suits.
This suit is more along the lines of the "stunt" variety, in that it was filed by two private parties alleging that Roger Stone had violated their privacy, among other things, by his involvement in the hacking of the DNC emails.
These kinds of suits are more along the lines of performance art than actions likely to lead to anything significant.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The plaintiffs could probably survive the motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction. If they could also survive the motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim, then the discovery could prove fruitful, even if the suit ultimately fails.
Obviously, the suit by the DNC, the direct victim of the email disclosures, has more promise. Still, I wouldn't go as far as to say that this case was merely performance art.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)kimbutgar
(21,127 posts)Just that the lawsuit against stone was dismissed.
Thank you all on DU you are all the smartest
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)before this is over. putin and koch have enough spare change to buy off a lot more.
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)but the statutes they were using didn't apply. Stone will not get off unless there is no country left. Mueller's got him in his sights.