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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs anyone still following Louise Mensch?
I have a theory about Louise Mensch.
Over the past 18 months, after Republicans stole the presidential election and the Senate majority (Toomey, Blunt, Johnson all won close elections in russian-voter-suppression Midwest states), the Republican strategy has become clear.
The Republicans are trying to use this two year period of illegitimate control to lock in as many long lasting gains as they can cram through.
Mostly, that means court appointments. Republicans are jamming through conservative judges at all levels. Enough judges to cement conservative control of the courts for a generation.
Back to Mensch. She and a few other accounts on Twitter- counterchekist, etc - have been making two main points.
1. Mueller is coming, so hang tight
2. Dems need to find the center and talk to Republicans.
Im going to speculate that Mensch and the other accounts were sent to get Dems to act civil for a year or so while Republicans could pack the courts. Her goal was to get Dems to be quiet. Because the only thing that could stop Republican court packing was Dems demonstrating and protesting in large numbers.
Mensch used to work form Heat Street/Fox/Murdoch.
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)
that's similar to what I've been saying. A lot of this is obvious... like Jeanne Dixon predicting Liz Taylor would wed or divorce every year.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Mensch, IMO, focuses on counterintelligence content, is rabidly anti-Russia. More than anything, she positions herself as a defense against Russian intervention. She doggedly pursues the origins of disinformation that gets assimilated into political rhetoric, and those origins invariably lead to Russian servers, bot farms, oligarchs, Russian intelligence agencies, etc. She seems to have connections with MI6 people, probably established when she was an MP. When she makes an assertion, not an hypothesis, she is more than likely dead-on, and I think it's because her sources are either inside UK's intelligence services, or they are one person removed. That's why her "wild" bombshells are eventually verified to be true several months later by MSM outlets.
Lately, Mensch has been relatively quiet. But she occasionally goes to detailed lengths to root out Russian sources of disinformation (DEZA).
One of her articles asserts that Trumpy gave the Russians a copy of Comey's office computer files right after Comey was fired, but that the portable device to which the data was copied were confiscated by FBI agents before the receivers of the data could hop on a plane and leave the country. I'm still waiting for confirmation from other news outlets.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)If thats who Mensch is, why did she say Gorsuch would recuse?
Why??
He hasnt. He didnt for the travel ban.
And he wont going forward.
I believe Mensch wants to feed us happy stories to keep Dems silent and waiting while Murdoch and his cronies destroy our judicial system.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)BINGO!! The Republicans will keep tRump in place until they get all their appointments in place and then dump him. He's a pariah in their party but a necessary evil to get their way.
When McConnell is done with him, out come the pee pee tapes!!!
m
melman
(7,681 posts)but I don't think she's that connected or important. I mean if the goal is to get people to keep people civil, why go to her? Her audience isn't really that big.
Also, as far as her being quiet lately, one thing to remember about Mensch is that she is very wealthy. In the end I really don't think she cares that much about any of this. Tweeting nonsense is just her hobby.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)As for avoiding massive demonstrations, I don't think they care what we do. March, don't march, sit, don't sit, yell, don't yell. We don't vote for them so it doesn't matter to them what we think.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Your reply comes off as defeatism. Dont give in to defeatism!
We are a hairs breadth away from breaking the GOP in two. It is barely holding on.
Why do you think the right mounted such a coordinated assault on the Red Hen? They are scared.
THEY KNOW DIRECT PROTESTS WORK.
That is why they are scared and want the protests to stop.
And heres why:
15% of Americans are Trumpite deplorables and Re short-term unreachable.
20% are deeply in the Fox and Limbaugh bubble and dont know what is really going on.
35% are not paying close attention
30% are informed, angry, and want something done now. (Thats us)
So the Republican plan is to keep the 20% Fox and Limbaugh listeners in the dark, and try to keep a lid on any outrage to prevent the 35% from learning that this is a national emergency.
OUR goal is to reach that 35%. And the best way to do it is exactly what Kristin Mink did to Scott Pruitt. THAT is why the right attacked Mink and the Red Hen. Because they know that is the key to stopping Republicans.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It's a start, but you need to strike, sick outs, shut down the government. Protesting doesn't do anything by itself.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)The tactics changed too. While there were sit-ins and kneel-ins and demonstrations, the SCLC also encouraged an economic boycott of the city. Birminghams economic heart, its shopping district, was crippled when black residents refused to shop in segregated stores. Boycott organizers patrolled the streets to shame black residents into toeing the line. The protests were designed to force a crisis point, and Connor only aided the effort. When business took down Whites Only signs, the avowed racist threatened to pull their licenses. On Good Friday, King was jailed for his 13th time for more than a week. Using the margins of scrap paper smuggled into his cell, King drafted his Letter from Birmingham Jail, among the clearest representations of his philosophy.
Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue, King wrote. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored.
http://time.com/5101740/martin-luther-king-peaceful-protests-lessons/
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It's all they understand
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It doesn't do shit unless you back it up with strikes, picket lines, etc.
Explain to me how demonstrating will stop the GOP from appointments. I don't get it.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Demonstrations. Sit ins. Boycotts.
Above thread explains why.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Just marching does shit
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)All of the above. Peacefully. Nonviolently.
Marches have their role if they are backed up by other nonviolent action.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)Don't follow her -- not on twitter -- but she has had advance knowledge of some developments. I don't recall her saying Gorsuch would recuse and she may not always be right. But it is puzzling why she is so distrusted. If you don't like her just ignore her.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)She made a huge deal about how SCOTUS was going to get Trump because Roberts was going to force Gorsuch to recuse on all decisions related to Trump.
Yeah. So we now know that is a HUGE load of horseshit.
And her message has always been just wait, Comey is coming. Now wait, Mueller is coming. Look at how extreme the left is. Lets come to the center. And wait for Mueller.
Screw that. At least other never trumpers are saying to vote for Dems- Wittes, Boot, Will, etc.
She has barely talked about the midterms and the importance of voting. Shes dead to me.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)The last time she was spouting some bs about the children not really being taken because there was a pic from 2014 that people were sharing. I said even though that is an old pic, they are still taking children. Bam. She can't take any discussion that disagrees with her.
The first time she blocked me, I had noticed something I thought was strange in a website and asked her. Immediate blockage, lol.
She has been right about some things in the past, but she is too much trouble.